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IndigoHawk

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Liam is a loyal best friend, but he's also a prankster and immature.

I think some people don't like Liam because of the issue of agency. If a game says "this guy is your best friend and he can get away with being an ass because you're so close", what happens if the player disagrees? AL mostly doesn't let players opt out of Liam's pranks. Instead, the game explains why they should like it.

So if someone starts out not liking Liam, they might like him less over time because the MC is basically forced to go along with Liam's pranks and put up with his immaturity.

I don't really think this is one of AL's flaws, though. Liam's character is central to the drama, and the story pretty much only works if players roleplay the MC as Liam's best friend.
 
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exxxe

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well it is obvious that MELISSA will DIE

In the first Therapy pay close attention to what Jessie says :)


don't hate on me for pointing it out :))
 

exxxe

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let me explain a theory

Jessie talks about something the MC experienced TWO weeks ago AFTER the fire

at the end we saw the room and the MC getting drugged but only after telling Melissa to come and get him

so what if melissa shows up and our lovely Nurse kill her in front of a drugged useless MC

tho it would be interesting to know how he survives

i think the happy ending is with Rena or None
 

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Sorry, talking about the Witcher made me think of this. One of the coolest things I think a Dev team ever put together. Promise it will be my last off topic post. In case some people missed it when it came out, it's just too cool not to share.


Witcher 3 is a good example of exceptional game writing. But that they felt fans needed this video, and we did, speaks volumes because there was no money for the studio in it. It was just to honor all the fans of the game.
 

Yennefer

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The last game that made me truly care about the characters was the witcher 3. I must say this is some real quality writing.
:cry: I was sad when it ended. I wanted to play Witcher forever and never stop...
Sorry, talking about the Witcher made me think of this. One of the coolest things I think a Dev team ever put together. Promise it will be my last off topic post. In case some people missed it when it came out, it's just too cool not to share.


Witcher 3 is a good example of exceptional game writing. But that they felt fans needed this video, and we did, speaks volumes because there was no money for the studio in it. It was just to honor all the fans of the game.
Don't get me started with The Witcher lol I can talk for hours it's just a damn masterpiece.
 

Wong89

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Started playing a few hours ago... I couldn't even fathom the idea that a H-game would grab me like this. It did.

I just made 'the choice' and well....now I need to see what happens.
 
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As female I cried a lot, maybe 1-2 hours. This story is remind me what happend with my brother, same things. The game is ... i have no word ... Finally a real novel and not a sick and incest game. Fun, love, romantic, date, sex, dramas, psychopath etcera. Beautiful novel.
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Happy day for all !
 

snakeplisskin

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I don't have a stance one way or the other (I haven't gotten around to playing the game and at this point I'm just going to wait for the conclusion before I start), but I'm curious why you didn't like Liam. Everyone raves about the character, I'm just curious what his less redeeming qualities are.

(I'm studying the shit out of this game before I play it. I want to like it because it's wildly popular, but the thread alone seems to go through so many twists and turns. Just reading about this game fascinates the shit out of me. Lol).
Liam is a loyal best friend, but he's also a prankster and immature.

I think some people don't like Liam because of the issue of agency. If a game says "this guy is your best friend and he can get away with being an ass because you're so close", what happens if the player disagrees? AL mostly doesn't let players opt out of Liam's pranks. Instead, the game explains why they should like it.

So if someone starts out not liking Liam, they might like him less over time because the MC is basically forced to go along with Liam's pranks and put up with his immaturity.

I don't really think this is one of AL's flaws, though. Liam's character is central to the drama, and the story pretty much only works if players roleplay the MC as Liam's best friend.
Well, the promise was that you could screw everyone in the game, and with that kind of branching story, that locks people out. There are ways to do a branching story that would not do that, or keep the branching story, but add a path that includes both, or something like that. For me, what I would like to see would be a path where I choose Mia for a love route, or chose both in a domination route. Or with the Mrs. J route, if you choose the 3way option, then June is still an option for you on the side.
What sucks to me, is to have the only path to June being one in which you have to first promise her to your friend, then stab him in the back.
Sorry for the slow reply. A lot of what is said in this post is close to why i don't like him, but for me its slightly more. I found Liam most of the time enables and actively encourages poor behaviour from the MC but then actively calls him out for it. His stuck in his college frat years personlity also reminds me of a former friend who i cut out of my life for acting the way Liam does and just generally bringing out the worst in me.
 

RomanHume

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Sorry for the slow reply. A lot of what is said in this post is close to why i don't like him, but for me its slightly more. I found Liam most of the time enables and actively encourages poor behaviour from the MC but then actively calls him out for it. His stuck in his college frat years personlity also reminds me of a former friend who i cut out of my life for acting the way Liam does and just generally bringing out the worst in me.
No worries on the timing. I just come in here to chill between renders. But thanks for offering up your insight. I really am dying to play this game but with the conclusion so close and me so busy already, I just can't bring myself to fire it up.

I've told myself that after our next update, I'll set aside the time. So here's hoping it's done by then. Cheers mate!
 
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