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I'm freaking astoudished with the quality and her body shape! She might be the real Alona we imagined!! Much better, you are doing wonders already! I've just, huh....(perhaps due to my ADHD) notice her face is too 'long' in regard to the 'cute original Alona' at right. And her cheeks are not 'triangular' enough. Finally, her eyes are a bit nearer each other. Perhaps some fiddling with her face can make her better. Are those renders from DAZ, lightroom or else? If I could have the current model (or at least the face) I can try to fiddle with it (morphs) like I used to do with old V4 models. Finally.....9 hours rendering? I just imagine with a GTX 1060 or higher card, it might render much faster (I have a friend who has one).
As I said a while ago. I gave up on trying. There are a few face forms that might get closer but all in all deliver worse results. P3D Harper from P3Design looked promising but ended up in a failure and it was the last figure I got to improve Alona's Face look at the moment I don't want waste more money on trying to find a shape that's better, I rather spend money on Renderotica stuff to be able to create descent scenes. Also, I'm not very happy with most of the clothing I bought, but there is no money back from any of those shops and often hard to say how well they're made.

But, well let's see if I can get the face settings out of my Fake-Alona ;-)... but so you know, the process to get the data, isn't so easy... here we go.

Edit: Btw. here two more renders of comparison between the original Alona and my humble try. The first one is with the head morph of P3Design's Harper for Genesis 8 and the second is the unmodified Pretty Base NG for Genesis 8 from Pretty 3D. Took me a while to understand that P3D can be both, P3Design and Pretty 3D which are two completely different creators ;-).

Edit2: Ah yes, P3Design is the creator from which Combin Ation got the first Skin-Material for Alona. It's not very visible but the original Alona has slight freckles.

Edit3: and sorry for the spots on Alona's Arm this is caused by a glove Alona is wearing to create the collision on her tits. The glove has a material on that makes it invisible, but since I forgot to make it completely invisible to the render it causes this spots everywhere where it touches the skin of her arm. You sometimes discover a similar effect on the forehead of rendered characters where the invisible skullcap of the hair is touching the actual head of the model.
 
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But, well let's see if I can get the face settings out of my Fake-Alona ;-)... but so you know, the process to get the data, isn't so easy... here we go.
Lol I cant stand your current techniques, that's wonderful! Thanks for the short comic.
Hmmmm I guess poser has more morph abilities than DAZ, I dunno. But yes, I could struggle to get a face closer to our loved Alona (actually the goal is just to make her even cuter than the original, not identical). I'm just trying to be perfeccionist, you don't need to do that, she's wonderful so far!

(I did some changes using PaintShop Pro):
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And man...her body is already 500% better than Alona!

As I am not delving into 3d world, I can help here at least with ideas of situations (for short comics). I am full of ideas (embarrassing ones for example). I, as an ENF lover myself, remember that in Alona missions, there is a place she needs to remove all of her Agent clothing in order to pee. Then 2 officials find her outfit and goes away with it. She ends up having to cover herself and then climb the wall and use a gun to knock the main objective. Combin made just a couple of pics of her (IIRC), one of them was marvelous (laid down with her enourmous butt). I just imagine how she would appear with that current gorgeous body you created. There is also a way to make her buck naked inside her plane, however she couldn't leave it, she just says: 'oh I am naked, can't go out like this', and bleh.

Oh man... I just wish to play those games (Agent Alona and Alona Missions) with more side scenes and more rendered pics... I always found them to be short :cry:. I know, there are games (like Saori Ecchi Adventure) which has much less Cgs, but Alona is Alona!
 
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### DISCLAIMER THE SCREENSHOTS PROVIDED HERE ARE -NOT!!!- FROM A WORKING GAME. AND YOU -CAN'T!!!- DOWNLOAD IT ANYWHERE!!! ###

Hehe, well... It's not that I can't see the differences in 2d and what would have to be done to make her look like the original Alona. The Problem is to do that with the 3d-tools I have at hand. I didn't give up easy but at some point I wanted to spent more time creating pics and story elements than just keep editing her face. I will give it one more shot but not at the moment, because my computer is working day and night to render the first punishment scene from the principal (spanking scene)

And yes, I greatly appreciate ideas and situations. Especially since I go completely numb on what is still looking good or not and what is still sexy, while I work on it. So far I definitely want to make extended scenes with Alona getting embarrassed on every step of her way.

When you talk about her plane, are you talking about Alona 2 or just some made up adventures? Because I really though about adding her plane to Alona 1 and give her the chance to fly over to Virane and save the Green Shadow from getting decapitated by the criminals but at the same time meets Ben and is getting under his control... hmm, probably not a very good idea... who would want to see Alona getting abused by this sick bastard ;-).

Btw. I changed the game pics again to be just transparent parts of the original scene to show the game screen underneath. I will probably also use blackened characters in addition to fully rendered ones to ease my effort when creating scenes like the ones at the pool. On the other hand I also thought about giving the blackened characters a back story like being sex-driven phantoms... unfortunately nothing completed and usable just a starting idea.

Ok, but after so much talk from my side, I don't want let you go without a few screenshots from my work in progress. As I said I'm going with the one Alona I've already created, but then most of my finished CG for the game is with that character and it would take like 80 render hours to re-render them with a new face, given that I can make her really look closer to the original Alona and at the same time look good...
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This is the final Avatar for now. I've already re-rendered all expressions Combin Ation is using. I'm using this pose because it's much easier to add the clothes to her in this pose without going nuts about corrections. And don't mind the sprite, the sprite sync for the clothes are not in place here.

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Later I will either change the expression here to fit better to the extreme expressions the Avatar is showing or the other way around.

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Big Heads and Extreme Close Ups shots to empathize the text or allow people who skip the text to get an idea what is going on.

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I finally managed to make a skirt-lift but there were tons of editing involved. Not sure how many hours I worked on this pic.

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Finally the beginning of the first punishment scene.

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And so it begins. Ah yes, I removed or reduced most of the wait-instructions that were in place to show the CGs without a text box and instead installed a Plugin that allows the player to toggle the text on or off with the CTRL-Key.

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like here.

The process to re-render all the pics is very slow and tedious, but it also allows me to gradually re-code the game and install all the methods I've had in mind. I can't say when I will put the first playable loop online, but I found my pace now and I am pretty sure that it will happen, with it's own Thread most likely in the mod-forum here.
 

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I really really love this!!!, I always love Aona's Game, but never know there could be a reworked version.

I would be great that you could complete it sometime. I always think that this game and the Masked hero Game could could be better (I love them).

I you need more people to support, maybe you should try create a new thread with your game.
I would like if you could publish your game in chapters or days or even scenes. then you really now if your work appreciate by us (right now I really want to play it!!!).
 

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I really really love this!!!, I always love Aona's Game, but never know there could be a reworked version.

I would be great that you could complete it sometime. I always think that this game and the Masked hero Game could could be better (I love them).

I you need more people to support, maybe you should try create a new thread with your game.
I would like if you could publish your game in chapters or days or even scenes. then you really now if your work appreciate by us (right now I really want to play it!!!).
Thanks a lot. Yes, I'm working on it whenever I can. And I've planed to start a thread in the modding forum as soon as a playable loop is ready. I can't give any ETA since it's both a time thing because I'm self-employed and often have to leave everything aside to keep my business running. And on the other hand it's also a motivation thing and believe me, the pics I render are in no way erotic or sometimes even interesting to me anymore and I often don't know if anyone else likes it or if I lost my audience already.

Btw. the remake was never planed. The original idea was just to convert the game from XP to MV to make it easier playable on Win10 and in the process fix a few flaws. My pictures on the other hand was never planed to be in a game, I just created them as fan pics. What I do now is more or less something I was pushed into by people believing that the game would have re-renders inside and now it will, but no idea when I can release anything.

Thanks for your nice words and your support.

And no worries, Alona get's punished for every day it takes to finish the game...
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Hehe, took a shortcut here, since it's so hard for me to lift her skirt, I simply took it off and throw it on the ground.

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I have to apologize for Agent Alona here, she's a bit slow and has no idea why the Principal has pulled down her skirt and what's he going to do next... but she will find out very soon ;-).

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Hmm... the dread in her eyes doesn't convince me really, maybe we should take off her panties as well, so that the principal can really give her some eye-popping spanks... and maybe we can get a glimpse of her naked pussy in the process ;-)...
 

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When you talk about her plane, are you talking about Alona 2
Yes, Alona 2 (in Alona Missions game). Albeit 'too short', the environment is incredible, as we can explore the huge military complex and certain scenes. I feel Combin likes ENF, but perhaps he was out of ideas when making side scenes (that is, short non linear scenes we can interact with) in Missions game.

And so it begins. Ah yes, I removed or reduced most of the wait-instructions that were in place to show the CGs without a text box and instead installed a Plugin that allows the player to toggle the text on or off with the CTRL-Key.
I remember certain plugins appeared for RPG MAKER XP that did that, but Combin preferred to do the wait code so we could work faster and finish his wonderful work.

I loved (LOVED!!!!!) her pose (kind of resignated one) with transparent undies (when she pushes her top and skirt). WOW!
And now its much more 3d polished, so we can 'delve into' (zoom into, as in our imagination) like being there.

The process to re-render all the pics is very slow and tedious, but it also allows me to gradually re-code the game and install all the methods I've had in mind. I can't say when I will put the first playable loop online, but I found my pace now and I am pretty sure that it will happen, with it's own Thread most likely in the mod-forum here.
What I would do (as I also likes to do certain modifications myself with some flash games) is to edit a txt file and then put everything my mind tells me (gushing new creativity lanes), that is, I fantasize and then make a couple more renders or edits in order to detail the sneee better, perhaps just CAMERA changes (showing the same pose but it gives us more immersion, like how her pussy/ass is being shown, how her legs are being seen from behind, etc).

BTW, the Principal model is very great, it depicts more the 'perverted slim guy involved with mafia or something'.
Again, dont' worry about re-rendering everything once you want to improve her. Those can be of course secondary (or tertiary) work.
You could also see if you can use a network render settings (I remember After Effects has something like this) so 2 or more machines can split jobs. Instead of 80 hours, you can have 40 or even 25 hours. But I know, new pc = more money involved. Used pcs with medium range graphic cards could suffice.
 
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Yes, Alona 2 (in Alona Missions game). Albeit 'too short', the environment is incredible, as we can explore the huge military complex and certain scenes. I feel Combin likes ENF, but perhaps he was out of ideas when making side scenes (that is, short non linear scenes we can interact with) in Missions game.
I remember certain plugins appeared for RPG MAKER XP that did that, but Combin preferred to do the wait code so we could work faster and finish his wonderful work.
What do you mean by work faster? When I played Agent Alona for the second time all these wait stuff was mostly the reason why I never finished the game a second time because it took too much of my time. Like the underwear event at the principal office where the first part of the event is repeated in the same way every day and where you can't skip over anything. For this I added the skip function (from Yanfly) so you can just press the 'page down' button and skip over any text until you reach a decision. Of course I left some wait-commands inside so the player is able to stop at a certain picture, but not this long nauseating waits Combin usually used.

I loved (LOVED!!!!!) her pose (kind of resignated one) with transparent undies (when she pushes her top and skirt). WOW!
And now its much more 3d polished, so we can 'delve into' (zoom into, as in our imagination) like being there.
Yeah, a friend told me to zoom closer at her at the expense of part of her head. He even suggest that I should cut the lower part of her body closer to her pussy to make her body appear as close and detailed as possible.

What I would do (as I also likes to do certain modifications myself with some flash games) is to edit a txt file and then put everything my mind tells me (gushing new creativity lanes), that is, I fantasize...
The things I'd want to include are mostly already written down but in my opinion they are not really important because the idea behind my efforts was to have people like you, Suidakra and other to play the original content and to be able to add stuff they feel missing.

The things I want to add are things that increase the comfort for the player and to get back on ideas Combin dropped in the process. Like there is a path where Alona denies the Principal the daily underwear inspection by threaten him with the law.

BTW, the Principal model is very great, it depicts more the 'perverted slim guy involved with mafia or something'.
Again, dont' worry about re-rendering everything once you want to improve her. Those can be of course secondary (or tertiary) work.
Hehe, yes I'm also fond of the principal model. It's a wonder that you can find such things on Daz3d. Usually, you get like 50 female models for every male model and like 20 super feminine beauty male models for 1 like this. Must say I learned to despise the Daz 3D Community in the same way as I despise the RPG-Maker Community but at the moment, they are the only tools I am able to use. I've started to learn Blender in the meantime, but to produce something that would be on the same level with Daz 3D stuff is very far away :(...

You could also see if you can use a network render settings (I remember After Effects has something like this) so 2 or more machines can split jobs. Instead of 80 hours, you can have 40 or even 25 hours. But I know, new pc = more money involved. Used pcs with medium range graphic cards could suffice.
The goal I have at the moment is to build a pure render PC which can batch render several pictures one after another while I can still use my main computer to work on anything else... even on designing new scenes. At the moment my computer is locked for as long as I render a picture. And yes, I can work other stuff like Photoshop, while it's rendering but since my Daz crashed the last time after 2 hours of rendering which took the picture down in the process, I don't do that anymore.

...and then make a couple more renders or edits in order to detail the sneee better, perhaps just CAMERA changes (showing the same pose but it gives us more immersion, like how her pussy/ass is being shown, how her legs are being seen from behind, etc).
Hmm... so you want to sneee better?... Even when you would totally embarrass our poor Alona by coming sooooo close to her?... I don't know if you can really do that to my our beloved Agent... OR CAN I ;-)

#### neither picture or text is in the game... or will be in the game in this form... Just a little OWW for Gamiat ;-) ####
-Suddenly the principal reached with his hands after Alona's bare and meaty thighs. She had no time to react before he grabbed her soft meat and pulled her closer while bending down right until his face was right in front of her flimsy black panties, which sheer fabric allowed the greedy eyes to peer directly onto her red pubic hair and her soft, vulnerable pussy below... But what's that? The principal nose detected a faint smell of ... well... Alona's fear and embarrassment mixed up with the principal hands strongly guiding her body around as if she were his sex slave had effects on her... her pussy involuntarily got wet... "...please don't touch..."-Alona begged-"...just don't touch, P L E E E A A A S E..."- ;-)
 
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What do you mean by work faster? When I played Agent Alona for the second time all these wait stuff was mostly the reason why I never finished the game a second time because it took too much of my time. Like the underwear event at the principal office where the first part of the event is repeated in the same way every day and where you can't skip over anything. For this I added the skip function (from Yanfly) so you can just press the 'page down' button and skip over any text until you reach a decision.
Oh I mean, 'working directly in the game' without having to cope with RPG MAKER limitations. He used his imagination and produced it even with those 'can't skip' scenes, instead of researching RPG GAMER XP sites to get custom scripts that might not be stable or done at the time.

The things I'd want to include are mostly already written down but in my opinion they are not really important because the idea behind my efforts was to have people like you, Suidakra and other to play the original content and to be able to add stuff they feel missing.
I thank you for that! Even that I'm not helping directly to the project, I can assure you I am an ENF lover myself, and by playing dozens of games like Bitch Police, Saori, Valiant Astrid, Naked Order and Leona Bitch, I got some 'white hair' (albeit I'm on my 30's). I am trying my best to see the 'forgotten aspects' many devs forget about making those games immersive like more side scenes (those we can visit/revisit during the main missions). And secondary missions! And, for a wonderful good game, aside of wonderful graphics like yours, we dont even need like 10,000 rendered pics, but insights on how to reuse them (by using zoom, etc). Scenes that we can even reuse cgs (you know that RPG GAMER with transparency can be tweaked, so we have two identical pics but in different areas (as the isometric map appears in the background). Our brains say it as a 'new scene' nevertheless. And with 3d pics, we can just change the view (camera), not moving a single finger of the model, and make our brain think its a new pose. We see her 'other lovely areas' during a scene while 'she is breathing' (our brains can imagine it), but without the hassle to make 10 different changed renders.

Like there is a path where Alona denies the Principal the daily underwear inspection by threaten him with the law.
I miss scenes like more side scenes when she was walking in the school without her panties and bra (instead of just some scenes like the classic nurse scene where the nurse examines her and takes her shirt and skirt, leaving her stark naked). Too bad we can't revisit that scene anymore, and worse, time is short there, that is, even if we could try to revisit each day until we 'unlock' all nurse scenes so we can choose the one we want to see in an option box, she might end up with a bad ending - I hated that limit, as it used to happen unpredictably. Another scene I remember is the one the student takes a shot (upskirt), the painter scene, the biology scenes, the basketball and running scenes, and finally the 'classroom ending', when she ends up teaching stark naked. Trust me, when I played those once, I imagined the endless possibilities of them, then I felt they were short. The feeling of 'oh, no more scenes like that' :cry: (and I am not even counting the scat scenes).

Examples of more side scenes: a classmate pulling her skirt in a corridor; another classmate kissing her butt (or delving his face into); a quick scene when she ends up stark naked and has to climb up (or down) a floor in order to retrieve her skirt and shirt (to remain minimally decent); a scene she is naked but covered somehow during a conversation (like under the table with only with her head showing up, then in another scene showing her face when opening a door just a bit while talking with another teacher, then entirely naked but covering with pamplets, briefcases, etc, in a way the other person doesn't imagine she is buck naked. 'Perhaps she is using a bikini', the other person can't guess right); a very passionate scene where some students find her naked and then decide to hug her by forming a small queue, while mumbling something at her ear and either 'nip picking' her nipple, or fingering her butt or pussy, in a random way at each hug, while Alona trembles up and moans, while her lovely juices runs down her legs and she tries not to scream (to avoid a crowd nearby) as the hug event will be over soon; a scene where she enters the bathroom and remove her clothes to take a shower (perhaps because she was 'dirty of cum') then someone steals her clothes and she has to do a mini quest; and a scene I was trying to make: the three students at the rooftop bullying her in a way they remove ther skirt and shirt, then run away the stairs, leaving her entirely naked there. Those scenes would happen if she is not wearing undies due to the Principal's confiscation.

Now I imagine a possibility of changing her skin status (by the player) in those scenes (like adding up sweat or cum) reusing the same pose, in certain situations like after walking a bit naked in the school or hidden inside a locker (so a quick button in the menu that adds sweat, cum or both). Or just make her sweaty automatically after a certain time during a given scene, and her body would have cum (perhaps just a single cum layer) if a boy (or even a girl) cums on her. And that makes me think about a 'kink' she could have: she wouldnt be dressing again until taking a shower and cleaning herself, as she cant' stain her school clothes by any means! :eek:

If you want, I can share you my todo list (when I was playing the game some years ago). I was like crazy, trying to find items that the game could have.

Of course, I can't forget she is an agent, so more scenes where she is using her bodysuit and ends up embarrassed could exist (I remember the suit is kind of awkward for her when changing clothes (she can't use panties or bra), and she needs to be entirely naked to enter a bath area, toilet, or by putting a new clothing, even if only panties and bra. Also, she has to remove it all when she needs to pee or even cum, for example, as she has to remove it all for those, and she surely doesnt want to stain her agent suit). I imagine areas like outside of school or when she gets into the drug facility, when 'nature calls' happen and she has to remove it all while being hidden (perhaps a timed event, if you wander too much, or by visiting certain areas as side scenes).

The goal I have at the moment is to build a pure render PC which can batch render several pictures one after another while I can still use my main computer to work on anything else...
This would be REALLY GREAT! A thing I also wanted to do someday.
I remember the time that we only need CPU cycles (not GPU), so we could even get RASPBERRY PI 4 (cheap machines) to work like this. But for rendering graphics, people GENERALLY needs more graphic cards in parallel (perhaps in the same PC). Anyways, I remember those 'split job renders' by using CPU being quite enough.

but since my Daz crashed the last time after 2 hours of rendering which took the picture down in the process, I don't do that anymore.
That's TERRIBLE, I feel your pain :/
Photoshop is a bit of memory 'monster' hog, like google chrome. I used to use Adobe FIREWORKS CS3 instead (not so many features as Photoshop but you can create layers and do some editing too and it used a fewer memory).

Hmm... so you want to sneee better?... Even when you would totally embarrass our poor Alona by coming sooooo close to her?... I don't know if you can really do that to my our beloved Agent
Oh damn, lol, now I forgot which word I referred to with that typo. Hmmmm YES, I mean....SCENE! Detailed scenes by just zooming in or moving the camera (like bird view, 'under her' view, etc)

Thanks for the 'closed up' ;) Oh man, those DETAILS... (skin hair, 'hole poxes', micro glands...) :p It makes me remember of FENRISSA artist who did wonderful models for DAZ back in 2012.
 
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Oh I mean, 'working directly in the game' without having to cope with RPG MAKER limitations. He used his imagination and produced it even with those 'can't skip' scenes, instead of researching RPG GAMER XP sites to get custom scripts that might not be stable or done at the time.
I see. I thought you preferred those slow and repetitive parts of the game. To be honest, I am never sure about the stability and it's something I am afraid of that I will encounter a bug which I can't fix but I have my fingers crossed that everything works ;-).

I thank you for that! Even that I'm not helping directly to the project, I can assure you I am an ENF lover myself, and by playing dozens of games like Bitch Police, Saori, Valiant Astrid, Naked Order and Leona Bitch, I got some 'white hair' (albeit I'm on my 30's). I am trying my best to see the 'forgotten aspects' many devs forget about making those games immersive like more side scenes...
Hehe, this is very much help you wouldn't believe how much. I often wondered that Combin didn't continue this story here or that action there but now that I sit in the developers boat, I see how hard it is to finish something and also how easy it is overlook something, because at least from my perspective, you completely lose the feeling for the scenes. Most of the times I think this is not good or damn, I need 2 or 3 pics in between or I simply drop the complete series of pics rather than to continue a path which leads to nowhere and start at the beginning...

(those we can visit/revisit during the main missions). And secondary missions! And, for a wonderful good game, aside of wonderful graphics like yours, we dont even need like 10,000 rendered pics, but insights on how to reuse them (by using zoom, etc). Scenes that we can even reuse cgs (you know that RPG GAMER with transparency can be tweaked, so we have two identical pics but in different areas (as the isometric map appears in the background). Our brains say it as a 'new scene' nevertheless. And with 3d pics, we can just change the view (camera), not moving a single finger of the model, and make our brain think its a new pose. We see her 'other lovely areas' during a scene while 'she is breathing' (our brains can imagine it), but without the hassle to make 10 different changed renders...
Yeah, that was my original idea. One of the first things I did was creating a paperdoll from the original Alona Bust and the original Alona Front Pics (strip scenes) where I had skirt, jacket, panties, bra in all variations nicely dissected each onto a different layer. The plan was to have her strip everywhere for the students, for the criminals, the fellow teachers, the fellow colleagues at the office... I wanted to have a deeply humiliated and exposed Alona at the end of many paths.

Examples of more side scenes: a classmate pulling her skirt in a corridor; another classmate kissing her butt (or delving his face into); a quick scene when she ends up stark naked and has to climb up (or down) a floor in order to retrieve her skirt and shirt (to remain minimally decent); a scene she is naked but covered somehow during a conversation (like under the table with only with her head showing up, then in another scene showing her face when opening a door just a bit while talking with another teacher, then entirely naked but covering with pamplets, briefcases, etc, in a way the other person doesn't imagine she is buck naked. 'Perhaps she is using a bikini', the other person can't guess right); a very passionate scene where some students find her naked and then decide to hug her by forming a small queue, while mumbling something at her ear and either 'nip picking' her nipple, or fingering her butt or pussy, in a random way at each hug, while Alona trembles up and moans, while her lovely juices runs down her legs and she tries not to scream (to avoid a crowd nearby) as the hug event will be over soon; a scene where she enters the bathroom and remove her clothes to take a shower (perhaps because she was 'dirty of cum') then someone steals her clothes and she has to do a mini quest; and a scene I was trying to make: the three students at the rooftop bullying her in a way they remove ther skirt and shirt, then run away the stairs, leaving her entirely naked there. Those scenes would happen if she is not wearing undies due to the Principal's confiscation.
I've added several reaction variables for the different groups, which should simulate how much or less those groups like Alona and how much respect they have from her which decides what they will do when they see Alona. Like pulling down her skirt in the dining hall while she is carrying her food trey and is unable to hide her naked butt from all the students until she can put the trey down and fix her skirt... but what if her skirt slides down her long legs and she trips and falls... maybe everyone lost their respect from Alona including the kitchen staff and the bad students are using the chance to drag Alona into a corner of the dining hall and start spanking this naughty teacher. ;-)

Now I imagine a possibility of changing her skin status (by the player) in those scenes (like adding up sweat or cum) reusing the same pose, in certain situations like after walking a bit naked in the school or hidden inside a locker (so a quick button in the menu that adds sweat, cum or both). Or just make her sweaty automatically after a certain time during a given scene, and her body would have cum (perhaps just a single cum layer) if a boy (or even a girl) cums on her. And that makes me think about a 'kink' she could have: she wouldnt be dressing again until taking a shower and cleaning herself, as she cant' stain her school clothes by any means! :eek:
Yeah, I've seen that in Akabur's witch trainer but at the moment I'm have no idea how I could do such 'layers' of cum which would fit over everything like outfit, skin and underwear. I probably could render out everything, but I am also no expert of all the sex items including cum shots. I've seen many effects in another game which I have no idea how to reproduce.

If you want, I can share you my todo list (when I was playing the game some years ago). I was like crazy, trying to find items that the game could have.
Sure. I think such todo-lists are extremely valuable in this time where so many people are making good money with this kind of games. So any idea or todo-list is more than welcome.

Of course, I can't forget she is an agent, so more scenes where she is using her bodysuit and ends up embarrassed could exist (I remember the suit is kind of awkward for her when changing clothes (she can't use panties or bra), and she needs to be entirely naked to enter a bath area, toilet, or by putting a new clothing, even if only panties and bra. Also, she has to remove it all when she needs to pee or even cum, for example, as she has to remove it all for those, and she surely doesnt want to stain her agent suit). I imagine areas like outside of school or when she gets into the drug facility, when 'nature calls' happen and she has to remove it all while being hidden (perhaps a timed event, if you wander too much, or by visiting certain areas as side scenes).
Hehe, I have already requests that they want to see her when she pees into her agent suit and especially into her long boots (no clue how to render that) ;-)

Oh damn, lol, now I forgot which word I referred to with that typo. Hmmmm YES, I mean....SCENE! Detailed scenes by just zooming in or moving the camera (like bird view, 'under her' view, etc)
When things start working, you are more than welcome to ask me for different angles, high-res pics, close ups and even for bad ending versions. You in the role as viewer are able too see so much more than I am able...

Thanks for the 'closed up' ;) Oh man, those DETAILS... (skin hair, 'hole poxes', micro glands...) :p It makes me remember of FENRISSA artist who did wonderful models for DAZ back in 2012.
I am not 100% sure anymore, I'd have to check out which skin I'm using, but I am pretty sure the skin is from Raiya. The pubic hair is from Exnem. Underwear is from Hongyu and Outfit from 3d-age.
 

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Too much Hyppe every time I see a post here, and of course when I can see JasNom pictures. I really hope an alpha, beta, demo or whatever you can bring us man!!!
I am really sorry, at this point I have no idea how to change that. But when a loop is ready, I will create my own thread in the mod forum rather than posting it here. So as long as you don't see that I created my own thread over there, there is no beta up yet. At the moment, I've re-rendered almost all bust-pics and bust expressions and the front strip sequence and the spanking event at the principal, but we're talking from thousands of pics that needs to get re-rendered to have just the original game up.
 

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Yeah, I now, but hype is hype xD. Don't get burned pal, I prefer something simple, but something, than a very ambicius proyect who never comes...
We all love ENF and humiliation in scenes, so don't need perfect renders (at least, I don't need them), just something about our favourite redhead (or pigface xD). I'll just ask you "please, don't get burned" and give us something!! :p
 
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Yeah, I now, but hype is hype xD. Don't get burned pal, I prefer something simple, but something, than a very ambicius proyect who never comes...
We all love ENF and humiliation in scenes, so don't need perfect renders (at least, I don't need them), just something about our favourite redhead (or pigface xD). I'll just ask you "please, don't get burned" and give us something!! :p
Hehe, pigface is just her nick, since Gamiat would like to have a face that'd be closer to the original Alona (as would I want as well). Now I'm a bit exaggerating it a bit to hopefully make Gamiat feel sorry enough for my version of Alona that he finally will accept her ;-)

And it's not about perfect renders. You just need tons of pics to just get the basic game running not to forget that I'm also overworking the whole game to make it easy to expand it further.
 
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s like after walking a bit naked in the school or hidden inside a locker (so a quick button in the menu that adds sweat, cum or
To be honest, I am never sure about the stability and it's something I am afraid of that I will encounter a bug which I can't fix but I have my fingers crossed that everything works ;-).
I really expect those NOT happening. If so, like I did with some flash games (yes I made some demos years before), I've put a TODO list , and even by procastinaning a bit, I used to nail each one down later. But the thing is, quality is important but quantity generally are much more welcomed (again, not quantity in regard to 10,000 renders, but the wise usage of them). In Saori game, we have like 571 CGs (yes, only that!) And worse, it has like 8 'similar' pictures in average, so 571/8 = 70 unicque pictures (more or less). BUT!! In the game, you hardly notice the artist is just reusing cgs because of the immersion (the current quest, the immersion in dialogues and current isometric place the character is).

So let's see you have found a bug in certain dialogue events, when exchanging certain cgs. You can use your creativity to overcome that, even if you need to do some 'go horsing' (programming with less clean code/repetitive core). SOME (some!!) 'dirty code' in order to fix a given bug faster doesn't harm anyone. Then you take note on that (in a todo list for example) and you can fix that later.

I see how hard it is to finish something and also how easy it is overlook something, because at least from my perspective, you completely lose the feeling for the scenes.
I second that. We have to be both devs AND the player. A thing that helped me was to develop a demo or a small game in certain times, then playing a lot of other games in another time, in order to 'wear off' (mostly mentally) and to get new ideas.

The plan was to have her strip everywhere for the students, for the criminals, the fellow teachers, the fellow colleagues at the office... I wanted to have a deeply humiliated and exposed Alona at the end of many paths.
We are in the same team, then, lol. I see that, more and more, by playing a female girl actually makes us want to 'put her in dangerous situations' that entice/spark our fetishes. Deep inside, it's like we are ordering her/changing her destiny (to be a nymph, a whore, an exhibitionist, whatever). I like playing as a male protagonist too, but...it's not the same thing.

Like pulling down her skirt in the dining hall while she is carrying her food trey and is unable to hide her naked butt from all the students until she can put the trey down and fix her skirt..
It would be a sublime event! :love:Oh man, too bad we can't just fiddle with every object in a rpg game tile, lol.

I'm have no idea how I could do such 'layers' of cum which would fit over everything like outfit, skin and underwear. I probably could render out everything, but I am also no expert of all the sex items including cum shots. I've seen many effects in another game which I have no idea how to reproduce.
I got it! Hmmm..... If you could 'zoom'/change the size of the cum layer, you can then do a resize+transform (in order to try to fit in each clothing status). Surely the players won't care much if a single cum drop is a bit off her left bra, for example. Then, let's make an example:

CUM LAYER: default zoom (100%), default H stretch (1), default V stretch (1), x offset 0, y offset 0.
CUM LAYER (clothing 1): zoom 110% (enlarged), H stretch 1, V stretch 1.1, x offset 10, y offset 0.
CUM LAYER (clothing 2): zoom 95% (shrinked), H stretch 0.8, V stretch 1, x offset -15, y offset -10.
(All of those are the same CUM layer image).

But if you are a perfeccionist (which is not bad, actually the contrary), then it will be harder, as you would need to render each layer for each clothing set.

Sure. I think such todo-lists are extremely valuable in this time where so many people are making good money with this kind of games. So any idea or todo-list is more than welcome.
Great! Just pardon me if any typos/grammar errors:

TODO (Agent Alona):
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Hehe, I have already requests that they want to see her when she pees into her agent suit and especially into her long boots (no clue how to render that) ;-)
Again, yet another wonderful idea :love:. Well, use your creativity to reuse 'pee' from hentais (you dont need to render everything, even pee). Blackadder and many other 3d artists (like JAG who did Chapperone and other comix) use an asshole layer (PNG) in many pictures, in a way you can THINK its rendered, but its not. Renderotica (I guess) used to have those 'patches' (I think 30, 40 or even more asshole pictures you can use in post processing phase, when you get the rendered image and fix the overlappings, then apply new patches onto her skin)

When things start working, you are more than welcome to ask me for different angles, high-res pics, close ups and even for bad ending versions. You in the role as viewer are able too see so much more than I am able...
Thank you, I'll try to do my best when time comes. And I will surely help when 'in nirvana state' (you know what I mean). By playing those games with love, we got creativity and things just happen. So by playing new games with delicious and 'waifu' characters like Alona, Surely this will entice everyone.

Underwear is from Hongyu and Outfit from 3d-age.
Those names are all familiar, I remember buying an outfit back in the 'era' of V3 models, lol.
I hope you are using outfit converters (they actually work wonders), I've made that iconic (and well known) 'heart like' apron to work with Genesis 8. There are a bunch of those converters. Sometimes a given morph is lost in the conversion but who cares, lol.


Now I'm a bit exaggerating it a bit to hopefully make Gamiat feel sorry enough for my version of Alona that he finally will accept her ;-)
We surely will accept every wonder you do, and even more if you got eurekas. That 'click' that makes us drool (like her body already) :p;) Her body (with her hips/butt/boobs/everything) is already top notch!

Thank you very much to listen and to exchange ideas (and for the sling bikini pic, I SWEAR I've talked about other outfits like a bikini and a slingshot bikini BEFORE seeing your cgs), I think this all just make us even more enticed with games like this, lol
 
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Thanks a lot for the list. Sorry for not answering everything, but I'm a bit tired today. As a little treat, I've rendered a pic with a corset (not a really great one, but the best I could find... not many corset's around in the Daz World). Can you see how small her waist is now and how her big boobs are compressed below the thick leather? ;-). Alona fights a bit with the air because she isn't used to corset's and that makes her afraid, but she's fine.

Ok, we have to go now, I'd like to show what we're going to with Alona now, but I'm afraid that would be too much for now ;-)...

"Please, not the basement", Alona begs... but the Principal is adamant and with an evil grin he is dragging our helpless Alona into the elevator to the dark basement.
 

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Now the principal ending makes sense hehe, she will be modified at the secret school lap and then
she will be presented at the principals home :)
 
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I second that. We have to be both devs AND the player. A thing that helped me was to develop a demo or a small game in certain times, then playing a lot of other games in another time, in order to 'wear off' (mostly mentally) and to get new ideas.
Yes, leaving something behind for a few weeks helps. But I rarely play any porn games so it's not hard for me to get new ideas or to learn what is trending today. I love milf-content but I hate to play porn games which are hard to progress or have excessive much combat.

We are in the same team, then, lol. I see that, more and more, by playing a female girl actually makes us want to 'put her in dangerous situations' that entice/spark our fetishes. Deep inside, it's like we are ordering her/changing her destiny (to be a nymph, a whore, an exhibitionist, whatever). I like playing as a male protagonist too, but...it's not the same thing.
I often talked with my last girlfriend how she feels when I do all those sadistic things to her and we came to a point where we both enjoyed the scene in some kind of 3rd person perspective as well as enjoying the 1st person impressions. So in some way she was my accomplice in torturing her body. In a game you are limited to the 3rd person perspective no matter what role you play in the end it's just the scene you enjoy. The difference is just whom the Cam is following. Is it Alona, the principal, one of the bad students or the bullied student...

It would be a sublime event! :love:Oh man, too bad we can't just fiddle with every object in a rpg game tile, lol.
Hehe, I wonder how this could be balanced because when her respect at school hits bottom. She might get groped, feeled, fingered, upskirted and photographed non-stop while walking the halls or the staircase. Pretty much like the Green Shadow when she pass the Criminals at night and gets feeled up just that the school is much less space to dodge. So at some point the player might get annoyed after the first fascination about that state is gone.

I got it! Hmmm..... If you could 'zoom'/change the size of the cum layer, you can then do a resize+transform (in order to try to fit in each clothing status). Surely the players won't care much if a single cum drop is a bit off her left bra, for example.
It's not just that. First of all I am not sure about where to get some of these assets. I've seen some assets used in Enslaver which might do the job. I am checking right now if that could be done with the Splash items from powerage. I want to be sure first because I wasted so much money on worthless items. Genesis 8 is producing so many shitty items and especially clothes. Barely anything here has the quality of most Victoria 4 items I've encountered (3d-age is usually a safe bet).

But if you are a perfeccionist (which is not bad, actually the contrary), then it will be harder, as you would need to render each layer for each clothing set.
What's worse then being lazy? To be a lazy perfectionist ;-).


[ ] A way to 'lower' scholar repulation (that damn variable that, if 100, would trigger a bad ending), so we can continue in the school. We know the game has that time limit due to the story itself (she needs to find clues soon or the teacher would keep
Oh, I was about to throw this stuff out of the window entirely. Instead I was about to convert the school bed endings into special events but without ending your game. Even the prison event. Only Alona would NOT get her head shaved, only her pubes which would allow new dialogues in which the students would laugh about Alona looking like a little girl down there. Her bust is already prepared for shaved/non-shaved variation. Here a collection of her white uw set (without expressions ofc):
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Also the school would be completely optional and would serve as cover for Alona and as money source since she would get paid for lecturing and also for special classes like biology or art.

(an idea I have first was make her 'fart' in order to lose reputation , as Combin is akin of those things, but I dunno, perhaps
I'm really not into most of those things like scat and fart and therefor I lack the feeling to create quality scenes with this content, but with explicit I can surely add that to the game. The only way I thought about going into piss and scat would be forced and in a humiliating sense rather then enjoying seeing or even smelling these things because to me this is absolutely repulsive.

an old teacher could be sit in a bench and she could 'blow' his dick in exchange to decrease her reputation points).
Hehe, I think Alona needs a lot more sex scenes. I was completely buffled that Alona only gets fucked by the principal two times. One time on his couch and the second time in her class. I definitely want way more fucking, fingering and sucking from her ;-). Also I think she needs way more spanking.

[ ] Revisit/Replay certain events, like 'common event 228' which only happens once. In each day, Alona could do certain events again.
I don't have this event in my version of the game. 226 and 227 are Bad Students on the Roof events, but 228 is empty.

[ ] A way to revisit/replay class scenes (with an option button) like the biology and painting, once she does them sequentially first. Then a message would appenar: 'Now, you can choose which the teacher can do do Alona'. Perhaps a bonus scene would appear in the options too (a 4th scene, for example).
I've done that already. I've a switch that enables this menu and it works for the principal, subway, karate club, basketball, running and class. That's how it looks for the subway.
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[ ] In 'stark naked' or 'no skirt' events inside school, we could get some side scenes/secondary short missions, but she would be 'restricted' to certain areas, like 2 floors only, just to avoid reprogramming everything. And she may not open certain doors or visit areas like the basketball field until she finishes the current quest.
Yeah, it's a time thing. Working long enough on the game will allow to complete more and more such things. Like responses from the Karate Club when she enters naked.

[ ] A way to skip the train scenes (it's also a way to avoid a scene which will surely increase her school reputation and gives us the damned 'game over' soon).
As I said above, I wanted to throw this concept completely over board and allow the player to recover from 'bad endings'.

[ ] A way to make her remove her clothes after a certain variable (lewdness?), only in certain areas, like her house, bathrooms, and empty classrooms. In RPG GAME, I've found a trigger: 0534: Start again = OFF, and 0532: Basketball start: OFF e ON. Currently, she can only sleep naked in her home after alertness is over a certain value (60 I guess).
Yep, alertness is Combin's version of lewdness. As an example with a too high alertness she's blocking the guys in the subway to grope her on her own, even when she got your command to allow (ignore) the groping. Or when she applies for the job at the Pharma company, if her alertness is too low she would go down to the scat scene resulting in a bad ending and not getting the job.

Then, small events could happen inside those rooms like, after a certain time, a random person enters in, he/she becomes embarrrassed, Alona tries to cover herself (perhaps three cgs, one facing her front, another facing her back, and the third a birdview, just examples of camera placement. Just one will happen, like in a random way), then the person just runs away.
Reminds me on a new event where Alona becomes the Sex Slave of the Janitor who sometimes keeps her tied down nakedly in his little house next to the school. Sometimes a student would come to get some tool and see Alona naked on her knees with her nipples tied to some drawer-handles (ok, I've read that in an erotic story - ) but since so many authors stole from thumb's story I though adding it to Alona with given credits wouldn't be that bad.

[ ] Find out how to activate event '0279: School Teaching S4', because this triggers ENF scene, where she walks bottomless and they push her skirt in the class.
S1 = looking at Alona's butt
S2 = touching Alona's butt
S3 = taking Upskirt pics
S4 = (after taking 3 upskirt pics of Alona in her black and white panties and another without panties) he's pulling up Alona's skirt. Yep, I extended this scene slightly by showing her bust without skirt (with the plans to maybe add a raised skirt to the bust collection).

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[ ] In the 'white scientist man' event (I dont remember if its already in the drug office), make her do it without panties, as she always refuses to remove it, even with alertness=20. There are scenes like that which an already 'lewd' Alona still doesnt remove panties. I think those kind of things we can force her to be more naked give us more control of her.
I can't think of a scene that would fit this description. There is a scene with a Scientist when you manage to pass the guards at the Office Lab to turn off the security system (turning also off the droids in the secret lab). But at that time Alona is already naked. If you remember where you encountered the scene. I'd love to make her drop her panties willing or not ;-).

[ ] A way to make her 'sniff' the drug scattered over the school. It would make her horny and show an option to remove her clothes. Then her 'outfit icon' would be in the floor and she would masturbate or do a given scene. As the drug is generally placed in areas not crowded, no person would notice. There is a drug in a room with students, though. Perhaps the event could make them facing the other side, then some dialogue would happen (they talking to themselves or shouting about an urgent homework to do), so they wouldn't notice Alona at first. (But later scenes can actually make one or more notice her and then 'unlock' blackmail scenes or else).
Hehe, you're a genius. Turning the drugs into regular drugs and going down that path as a special event (every drug Alona finds increases the Drug Event level).

[ ] In the painting room, a possible scene where everyone will be facing the other side, in the case Alona enters that room naked or do a 'third or fourth scene' (future scenes) where she needs to be entirely naked, not just using C cups/pasties.
Yep, and every time they make a new pic she would see that the next day hanging on the wall in the school.

[ ] In the scientist scenes (the one she poo in the latter scene), make Alona accept the test, even pantyless, as she refuses to help the teacher when her panties are confiscated. Actually, now that she is in that state, more and more scenes would happen to harass her more.
Oh, I can think of many biology-experiments that need to be conducted on Alona sensei. And it can get to a point where the those experiments would extend the bio class. So students would stop Alona in the corridor to conduct a pussy inspection in front of other students ... maybe. ;-)

[ ] Skip button that skips each cg/dialogue immediatelly, instead of 'waiting the entire sound to be played'. Combin used to repeat certain sex sounds 3, 4 times. Also, a 'UNDO' button (so we can get back), a way for the player to be criative, like if he wants Alona to undress, have some events, then go back and undress again just by pressing UNDO UNDO UNDO UNDO in certain dialogues with CGs.
I wouldn't know how to entirely skip dialogues anywhere but Yanfly's fast forward is helping a lot.

[ ] New outfits: naked apron, naked corset, bikini and sling bikini (a naughty one). So we can have those outfits in certain
I haven't found a really good naked apron yet. But as you said, quality is not always so necessary. I've already bought several maid outfits. But had no time yet to check them out. When it comes to bikini's I've several micro bikinis but I like Hongyu's normal bikini with the strip morphs the most.

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[ ] Change 'certain very sad music' like 063-Slow06 and 040-Dungeon06 to other 'adventurous/sexual/comedian/allegro' themed music. Combin loved those music (which made certain scenes drammatic and very sad). Alona and Survivor Sarah used them a lot.
For now it will work, I've already recorded several XP-midi musikpieces to ogg to use it in MV. But this will not work anymore if I ever leave the RPG-Maker World. Then there is no way I will get them work in Unity or so because of their greedy copyright policies if they could, they would copyright single pixels.

[ ] The possibility to go to the school bathroom more times, and a random number of students would be there (or no students). They would even 'use' Alona if she if found naked there, or if they listen to her peeing/pooing in the toilet. Those might be bad students of course (those with perverted minds lol)
I think the bathroom would be the logical place where a naked Alona would flee to when she gets her senses back and notices that she's walking around nakedly in the school halls. If a bad student would figure out that Alona is in there completely naked, waiting for the night. I am sure they would drag her out of her stall and make her service them in return for not calling the principal.

[ ] In the the train, once you accept to use it, you could select which scene you want (option dialogue) once you see them all first. The last one would be available, but with a hint: 'warning, will trigger bad ending'. The user can 'accept' her fate as the 'whore of the train' and execute it. Then game over. But he/she can load a saved game and then say: 'okay, babe, your ending wont be that'. This gives more freedom to the player instead of 'oh no, I broke the game, I got that ending, I need to get a much earlier saved game now!'
nope, no bad endings that would prematurely end the game, even when she loses a serious battle she would find herself in the hospital the next day instead of being dead. In that way, I will also remove the rather nasty death scenes. Like the ones where James Dick is cut off and stuffed into Alona's mouth before killing her with a shot to her head.

I will leave the event in the game in case anyone really want to patch this back in but really don't want have anything to do with snuff.


[ ] Add 'weird behaviour' to her partner agent, too. Like: he invites you to go to the cinema, where he starts to groping you for 2-3 times, and then, he convince alona to go somewhere to fuck her, or Alona was raped by stranger in the cinema, instead of his partner agent (got this idea from somewhere).
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There is a small evolving love story between Alona and Taro which I never really was able to follow in the game. Which would be perfect for this. The principal bad ending is also showing some kind of Netorare and Blackmailying where Taro doesn't believe that Alona would voluntarily be a sex-slave for the Principal and would ask Alona while she's bound down on the table with all the stuff applied to her tortured body if she's doing that on her own will and the Principal would give her a look after which she nods to Taro. I think this could be exploited a lot in pre-ending events.

The real ending scenes will be at the very end of the game where depending on your game play you will be able to will get one or several. Some of course will be exclusive. Like loving wife of Taro or sex slave of the principal. Maybe one where Alona is the loving wife to Taro but when he is not around is the pregnant sex slave of the Principal to protect Taro from harm... ;-)

Again, yet another wonderful idea :love:. Well, use your creativity to reuse 'pee' from hentais (you dont need to render everything, even pee). Blackadder and many other 3d artists (like JAG who did Chapperone and other comix) use an asshole layer (PNG) in many pictures, in a way you can THINK its rendered, but its not. Renderotica (I guess) used to have those 'patches' (I think 30, 40 or even more asshole pictures you can use in post processing phase, when you get the rendered image and fix the overlappings, then apply new patches onto her skin)
Muhaha, Blackadder is a pro, don't expect me to come close to all the things he can.

Those names are all familiar, I remember buying an outfit back in the 'era' of V3 models, lol.
I hope you are using outfit converters (they actually work wonders), I've made that iconic (and well known) 'heart like' apron to work with Genesis 8. There are a bunch of those converters. Sometimes a given morph is lost in the conversion but who cares, lol.
Nope, I haven't bought any cloth converter yet. I've created several autofit clones to autofit the clothes. Not the best results yet, but as I said my money is very limited and I try to buy the things that add the most to my renders.
 
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