Terix3

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Oh new version! And it's bugfixes :KEK:
When was beach patch released again ? Last year i think and then it was not finished even and some an ending was delayed. Nonetheless that was last substantial content update and if i recall shota patch was to be released early next year :LOL:.
You guys remember when patch would come out every 1-2 months ? Good old times.
Well it is what it is, i know the support didn't grow as they expected so they had to look for another solution - start working on another project. Still sucks that trust has no gameplay nor dialogue effect and is just there to taunt me.
 
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Oh new version! And it's bugfixes :KEK:
When was beach patch released again ? Last year i think and then it was not finished even and some an ending was delayed. Nonetheless that was last substantial content update and if i recall shota patch was to be released early next year :LOL:.
You guys remember when patch would come out every 1-2 months ? Good old times.
Well it is what it is, i know the support didn't grow as they expected so they had to look for another solution - start working on another project. Still sucks that trust has no gameplay nor dialogue effect and is just there to taunt me.
Yup, the end of beach patch was around late January/mid February ( at least finished CGs have those dates, can't really remember when they got added into the game). They surely slowed down, if we count the scenes in every patch ( from 12+ to 8 scenes every 2 months). Let also say last scenes are longer and have more layers than the older ones ( take the last lifeguard scene, for example). I think the quality went up, to compensate a slower drawing process. Shota patch went from 20ish to 37 scenes as well.

They also had to slow down due to health issues, i can assure you that. More money will probably bring another artist in to help with the colouring part, since art is the bottle neck of the developing process. Having 2 games/projects doesn't slow things down that much, since there are 2 differents CG teams.

And yeah, i hope one day they will come back and finish everything they want to do in FI, but i guess that day is not something we will see soon.
 

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Having 2 games/projects doesn't slow things down that much, since there are 2 differents CG teams.
For longest time the "we wait for art team" been the excuse for delays. But why any piece of new content needs to have a separate new art? For example why is it not possible to have some scenes with Dan while not being on Gracia route? Dan surely wouldn't mind casually banging Ayame. It would be easy to take some scenes from routes and make them into free roam scenes. It would make sense for Ayame to have sex with those characters once she is fallen without being on their route. All that it would require is writing.

Also trust system is purely writing / coding thing. There is no need for new art whatsoever. Starke wanted to make abrupt endings if player would allow to drop the trust to zero. The thing that doesn't need ending CG, really doesn't. Robert comes home shows on picture on a cellphone (can use here already existing art from relevant route) and tells Ayame to get out.
The trust system is not about ending or art even but giving player agency and connection to Ayames behavior. The money you make would have some use, maybe some gameplay loop and much needed "off rails" experience. This can all be done with text and sprites that already exist.
 
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Hello guys, does anybody know when this game will be complete (in the sense that no more updates or DLC will come out) ?
 
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For longest time the "we wait for art team" been the excuse for delays. But why any piece of new content needs to have a separate new art? For example why is it not possible to have some scenes with Dan while not being on Gracia route? Dan surely wouldn't mind casually banging Ayame. It would be easy to take some scenes from routes and make them into free roam scenes. It would make sense for Ayame to have sex with those characters once she is fallen without being on their route. All that it would require is writing.

Also trust system is purely writing / coding thing. There is no need for new art whatsoever. Starke wanted to make abrupt endings if player would allow to drop the trust to zero. The thing that doesn't need ending CG, really doesn't. Robert comes home shows on picture on a cellphone (can use here already existing art from relevant route) and tells Ayame to get out.
The trust system is not about ending or art even but giving player agency and connection to Ayames behavior. The money you make would have some use, maybe some gameplay loop and much needed "off rails" experience. This can all be done with text and sprites that already exist.
Because they are strongly against re-using art. You'd be fine with those changes, they wouldn't. You have standards, they have different standards but they are making the game and you're just telling them how to make their game. Their trust system is there for a patch focused solely on Robert catching Ayame during sex scenes, it wasn't done because most of you like to talk a lot of shit but you don't put in any money so whatever you get is more than you can complain about. Feel free to support and then complain as a paying customer but until then you're just another "I'm gonna crack the whip and tell one of the most successful teams in the last decade how they should make their game" kids which come a dime a dozen.

You call "waiting on the CG team" an excuse but do you have any idea how much work making all the routes replayable while reverting all the switches, variables and other stuff that tracks your progress in the game from before you make any big decision was? They have have made countless quality of life and bug fix patches ever since February, the map overhaul, some scenes and dialogues were remade and drastically changed from older versions, the changes in the Chad scenes in the bunny route, the chat scene with Sato, and so on and so on but the guy that says "doesn't need art to make an impact" is the first one to talk shit and completely forget it because it has no new art! Oh, the irony.

Likewise, all the new overhauled and redrawn high quality busts with new booba that were presented to later on be added to the game once they were all completed which Starke stated (and showed) that more than half of all the busts in the game have already been re-drawn since they are not put in game you completely disregard all that work as if the CG team wasn't working that whole time. Do you realize the amount of unreleased scenes there is in the spoiler section? Probably not because it's for supporters so yes, the CG team is causing "the delay" which is not a delay, they're just working on the game, we can see their progress and as they have done for the last 8 or so years, as they have always done, they are going to deliver and every troll is going to go under the bridge for a while until it's time to complain about a new patch again.

That's all you guys seem to do around these parts lately, talk shit (literally, looking at your post history in this forum is just appaling, you must be such a bitter and frustrated person in real life). I just find it funny how that topic is taboo in some threads where the mods shill for their dev friends but they completely turn a blind eye in other threads unless someone I don't know, God forbid, uses words like shit or fuck, then you might hurt someone's feelings because you said a swear word in a porn forum. :rolleyes:

In case it isn't too apparent, the brunt of this post isn't directly aimed at you, just anyone with your general negative attitude.

Edit - I withdraw my previous statement about mods. Apparently if you use the report system often and you show someone is constanly being a dick they will get dealt with so that's nice.

Well dev says thet shota DLC cum out this october.
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I bet some fanboy house, that these aren't the "probably" type devs. And if thay sayd october, that will be october.
Oh look, you're here talking out of your ass again, every single post. It's not like there might have been a vote to add scenes to the game which the Patrons understood it would cause the development to go a little over the estimated time.

Does that mean the DLC is free ? If so that's very generous of the dev team
Yes, it's free, as was the Bestiality one.
 
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Because they are strongly against re-using art. You'd be fine with those changes, they wouldn't. You have standards, they have different standards but they are making the game and you're just telling them how to make their game. Their trust system is there for a patch focused solely on Robert catching Ayame during sex scenes, it wasn't done because most of you like to talk a lot of shit but you don't put in any money so whatever you get is more than you can complain about. Feel free to support and then complain as a paying customer but until then you're just another "I'm gonna crack the whip and tell one of the most successful teams in the last decade how they should make their game" kids which come a dime a dozen.

You call "waiting on the CG team" an excuse but do you have any idea how much work making all the routes replayable while reverting all the switches, variables and other stuff that tracks your progress in the game from before you make any big decision was? They have have made countless quality of life and bug fix patches ever since February, the map overhaul, some scenes and dialogues were remade and drastically changed from older versions, the changes in the Chad scenes in the bunny route, the chat scene with Sato, and so on and so on but the guy that says "doesn't need art to make an impact" is the first one to talk shit and completely forget it because it has no new art! Oh, the irony.

Likewise, all the new overhauled and redrawn high quality busts with new booba that were presented to later on be added to the game once they were all completed which Starke stated (and showed) that more than half of all the busts in the game have already been re-drawn since they are not put in game you completely disregard all that work as if the CG team wasn't working that whole time. Do you realize the amount of unreleased scenes there is in the spoiler section? Probably not because it's for supporters so yes, the CG team is causing "the delay" which is not a delay, they're just working on the game, we can see their progress and as they have done for the last 8 or so years, as they have always done, they are going to deliver and every troll is going to go under the bridge for a while until it's time to complain about a new patch again.

That's all you guys seem to do around these parts lately, talk shit (literally, looking at your post history in this forum is just appaling, you must be such a bitter and frustrated person in real life). I just find it funny how that topic is taboo in some threads where the mods shill for their dev friends but they completely turn a blind eye in other threads unless someone I don't know, God forbid, uses words like shit or fuck, then you might hurt someone's feelings because you said a swear word in a porn forum. :rolleyes:

In case it isn't too apparent, this post isn't directly aimed at you, just anyone with your general negative attitude which also breaks the forum rules when convenient but "it's just review rules" when inconvenient, it really depends on the mod you get, consistency is not really a thing around these parts.

Anyway, in b4 this post is deleted because, I don't know, "I was mean" or some based subjective pedantic rule checked by a mod on her period that wouldn't understand the meaning of professional if they got hit in the head with a dictionary.



Oh look, you're here talking out of your ass again, every single post. It's not like there might have been a vote to add scenes to the game which the Patrons understood it would cause the development to go a little over the estimated time.



Yes, it's free, as was the Bestiality one.
I've supported this project what it was worth it and now it is simply not. They have their standards and i don't need to agree with them. I'm free to think that redrawing busts is a giant waste of time and money.

The minor changes that you mention arn't good reason for me to replay the game. Fun fact - trust system wouldn't be a minor change. It would (hopefully) vastly overhaul the interactions with Robert and Ayame wouldn't return to empty house 90% of time. How much work it would require depends on how forthcoming they were when developing the game. I believe such system should start being implemented as early as possible and not left till the game is complete. If now they need to stretch the code that they spend 8 years making to fit that then no shit it will be difficult.But they don't have anyone but themselves to blame.

I'm a simple man - i expect dates to be kept. If you can't keep the promised release date i expect that you will come up and tell me why and when is the new expected release. If i need to ask why the delay is happening then I'm already suspicious. If you start changing / adding stuff to justify the delay but you never polled if it is ok to make such changes - I will accuse you of stalling. Do this multiple times - and I'm done with you.
Just my general policy not specifically aimed at this project.


That's all you guys seem to do around these parts lately, talk shit (literally, looking at your post history in this forum is just appaling, you must be such a bitter and frustrated person in real life).
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In case it isn't too apparent, this post isn't directly aimed at you
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Anyway, in b4 this post is deleted because, I don't know, "I was mean"
I'm not gonna report you because I'm ok with you defending your beloved game. But if that is how you write posts "not directly aimed at someone" then i'm not surprised you find your posts deleted.
 
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Ahh the natural ebb and flow of F95, when the content starts to slow down the multiple paragraph arguments start.

I swear, that kind of shit must be as much of a kink for some people on this site as the porn games themselves.
 
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I've supported this project what it was worth it and now it is simply not. They have their standards and i don't need to agree with them. I'm free to think that redrawing busts is a giant waste of time and money.
Yes, and they don't have to agree with yours either, the difference is they are making the game and you're not so you understand why their standards matter and yours don't, don't you?



This quality of bust is fine by you, apparently most patrons don't agree that having busts that look like they were made for a DOS game 20+ years ago isn't acceptable by today's standards. Moving on.

The minor changes that you mention arn't good reason for me to replay the game. Fun fact - trust system wouldn't be a minor change. It would (hopefully) vastly overhaul the interactions with Robert and Ayame wouldn't return to empty house 90% of time.
There is just so much ridiculous in this statement that I'm not going to even bother debating it. "Minor changes". You have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about, which I already knew but this 100% confirms to anyone that does know. Moving on.

How much work it would require depends on how forthcoming they were when developing the game. I believe such system should start being implemented as early as possible and not left till the game is complete. If now they need to stretch the code that they spend 8 years making to fit that then no shit it will be difficult.But they don't have anyone but themselves to blame.
Yes, in retrospective we're all fortune tellers. How's your game going, though?

I'm a simple man - i expect dates to be kept. If you can't keep the promised release date i expect that you will come up and tell me why and when is the new expected release. If i need to ask why the delay is happening then I'm already suspicious. If you start changing / adding stuff to justify the delay but you never polled if it is ok to make such changes - I will accuse you of stalling. Do this multiple times - and I'm done with you.
Just my general policy not specifically aimed at this project.
Like this?

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And these were this month. They were explained what that would entail and how much delay they would case, to Patrons that is. So, what were you saying completely out of your ass again? (Note that the 54 YES and 6 NO was the one in favor of the delay).

See, it's fine to have your personal opinion on how a game should be made to your standards but when you try to shove it down people's throats as the end all be all opinion, that's when people have a problem with it and if the way to do it is negative as fuck much like yours is then I'm sure the vast majority of people here would rather you've kept it to yourself, or keep being an angsty sower bitter person, I'm not the one having an heart attack at the age of 30.
 
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Ahh the natural ebb and flow of F95, when the content starts to slow down the multiple paragraph arguments start.

I swear, that kind of shit must be as much of a kink for some people on this site as the porn games themselves.
Well, 50 Shades of Gray exists, and so do a plethora of other written erotic novels. So yes, people may have a kink for long paragraphs written in a lengthy detail that help them visualize what's happening painting a picture in their head that help them get off.
 
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Does that mean the DLC is free ? If so that's very generous of the dev team
I don't know for certain but I believe the DLC's are free, at least I don't remember having to pay to be able to download their "Alansya Chronicles: Fleeting Iris IF" DLC which featured some "What If" endings.
 
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