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I agree, great starting out and yes they end in a whimper or a wtf happen.
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I see. Then you're right: we absolutely disagree. I find them of a little above average quality overall. The beginning of many of their games are great (but not all; again, I would point to Reconnections). But that's only a part of the game as a whole. Like I mentioned, there are many quality control problems — missing images, incorrect images, incorrect speaker, easy-to-spot-and-fix typos, often bland dialogue (nothing all that memorable IMO), etc. And the endings, which you agree aren't great, are a huge part of the game.
So even if I overlook the QC issues they consistently have across all of their games (which I don't, b/c those are a part of the game as a whole), the fact that the endings never seem to be good drastically mars my opinion of them. If I call a game "mildly entertaining", I mean that about the game overall. For all of the more enjoyable parts in the beginning, I find a nearly equally number of frustrating parts at the end.
That's why I assess them as I do: I take the game in its entirety. I hate it when an ending to an otherwise good-to-great game is a giant car pileup at an intersection. It completely wrecks my view of the rest of the game. And so, knowing how badly they botch the endings, I start each new one with a lingering feeling of future disappointment.
Is it just me or did this AVN end too soon? It seems like there's a lot more story that could be told for this. There should be more chapters. With mob stories there always a lot that can be told with both ups and downs, new business ventures, rivals new and old, and there's also everything that goes with starting a new family while dealing all the mob business.
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Its that way with all the VN's these dev's make, great starting then to fast ending leaving you with a crappy ending.
Sometimes its about 3/4 the way through then a fast exit/ending leaving you asking why.
He was creating a really great story but there is so much more that could be told. Having both girls pregnant and dealing with that, building your family and "business" more while also having to deal with new threats, rivals, and law enforcement. Also building your family more and building your "Family" more. Getting into more ways to make money including other legit ways meeting other people along the way.
I don't know how many of you played Sorcerer but it was the same way. It built this whole world and mythology but then ended way to soon. It talked about other threats and challenges that could come after the characters but after defeating the first challenge he just ended it. I really wish I knew how to make AVNs and do renders. There's videos on doing the coding but I really suck at art. I would love to create a story like this but keep building on a whole world/story to make it better instead of making something people like and then pulling the carpet out from under people by ending it so it looks like just giving up. I would want peoples opinions about it. That way the fans could decide if it's getting too long or going down hill or if they want it to keep going/growing.
sorry for the rant. I'm just always thinking of story ideas and really wishing I could make these.
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You and me both.
There is so much more that could have been done in all there games/VN's that leave you with disappointment by the endings.
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