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I desperately need this to be true.
You and me both. I have no problem with a supernatural element to a story but I'd prefer that it was made clear from the start that that's what the story was, not just thrown in, in the middle somewhere.
 

TheCrimsonRevenger

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You and me both. I have no problem with a supernatural element to a story but I'd prefer that it was made clear from the start that that's what the story was, not just thrown in, in the middle somewhere.
In what manner was it NOT made apparent from the beginning? The MC's tendancy to enter mindless psycho rages was established within the first few seconds. Within the first few scenes of Alex's into their psychic future dreams kicked in. Don't confuse a gradual build up with absence my friend.

Even if for some reason you don't think all those subtle clues that had me and others speculating on the supernatural elements months ago should be counted, then remember this is only the 2.0 incarnation. We're still very much in the 'beginning' of this game.
 
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In what manner was it NOT made apparent from the beginning? The MC's tendancy to enter mindless psycho rages was established within the first few seconds. Within the first few scenes of Alex's into their psychic future dreams kicked in. Don't confuse a gradual build up with absence my friend.

Even if for some reason you don't think all those subtle clues that had me and others speculating on the supernatural elements months ago should be counted, then remember this is only the 2.0 incarnation. We're still very much in the 'beginning' of this game.
I see the MC's rages as just a guy with really poor self control and the "dreams" could just as easily be little fantasies. But it is true that this game is still in it's early stages it has been portrayed more as a Mafia type game than something supernatural. These things could be subtle clues but at the moment I don't think they are hinting at anything supernatural. I could be wrong, will be fun to find out as the story unfolds at any rate. After all Ptolemy writes great stories and if this game takes a turn into the supernatural I'm sure it will workout well and make sense.
 

TheCrimsonRevenger

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The evil murder-smile he gets when the psycho-rage kicks in implies it's nothing as simple as anger management issues. There's something decidedly wicked in the MC. The only mundane explanation is straight up multiple personality disorder.

What makes for a better story and better character developement in an erotic story? A psychotic or a werewolf?

Full blown psychotic? Ain't nuthin' sexy about that. Nothing sympathetic about that. This is why psychotic characters in story telling tend to be antagonists, or at best loose cannon sidekicks. They do not offer the needed ingredients of a good story which is ultimately only as good as it's protagonists and antagonists.

Werewolf? Sexy, dangerous, and just enough tragedy to it to make the MC sympathetic. All the things you need in a protagonist.

Now I'm not as infallible as my God-Emperor, so I could ultimately be proven wrong I guess. But from what I see so far, all signs point to werewolf. Only some signs point to psycho. And psycho would be pretty disappointing.

My only real fear at this point is the writing team cops out and does some crappy I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-A-Werewolf version of a werewolf. The only way to make a psychotic work would be the Jekyl/Hyde angle someone mentioned earlier, and but that would mean ignoring all the other strong signs that point to Werewolf. And frankly, Jekyl/Hyde almost always ends up coming across as I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-A-Werewolf anyway
 

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I am partway through this game and I like it. I specifically liked the part where you get the girls out, you return with them drunk, your mobster boss waits you at the door and when Alexandra busts his balls to let you sleep there for the night, he offers to "do to you what you do for his daughter" and the next day he is there, dressed and all when you wake up watching you and his reply on "I find it a bit disturbing you watching me sleep here" is "I could do it at your place if you prefer."

He really isn't subtle. I was laughing my butt off.
 

the3rdguy

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No android version?
Edit: nvm, found it. Would be helpful if any mod add the android port on the OP
 

Sinphil

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Big mafia guy? How do you get that?

I was wondering how long it would take for that to come to light here :p

BTW, there are some complex characters and relationships in this game. It's necessary to read every dialogue and thought and still much is not clear yet. It's not a light story about boy likes girl then let's fuck.
Yeh its kind of hilarious since you the one actually intruding on pre existing relationship its not either.
 

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Teen Wolf style werewolves don't have big elaborate transformations. All you really need is the claws, the fangs, the glowy eyes, and maybe a bumpy brow, Star Trek-style. Which neatly dovetails with Daz's graphical limits
Except he switched when he first met Alex and she clearly only saw him as he always was and it was only his demeanor that scared her. The reliance on graphics not so wise either because with beating with hammer slashes appeared yet dialogue after when confirming MC story confirmed his hed beaten in with blunt object fitting hammer.
 

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The connection that Alex and the MC share is one of the most intriguing things in this game for me. At first it seemed like it was only the MC who felt it but now Alex is in tune too it also. It would be awesome if Izzy got to be in on it too but we shall see.

I am not sure its magical but more of an enhanced empathy where you literally feel connected in some way and can tell when something is "off" or "different" with certain people (partners, family, etc...).

But if they all end up being supernatural creatures with superpowers I be cool with that too :LOL:
I felt connection was both ways from start and visions not just daydreams or fantasies, from first vision where he actually collapsed he knew her pet name she was going to use "Puppy" that wasn't actually used by Alex until Izzy called him Guard dog when she convince MC to escort them to bar. It was also interesting that visions not purely related to relationship like when money stolen the vision was insight into how to deal with Boris to protect Dennis and get respect. I am liking the two sides to his "power" and just how this is going to evolve. I also like that Alex also has subtle matching contrasting duality.
 
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OK while we talking supernatural and mythical. In both Celtic and Norse lore there are berserkers and in both there were rare Berserkers that credited with "the sight" and ability to both inspire allies in multiple ways including berserker rage and unnatural fear in enemies. There are many scenes where things change significantly after Physical contact made with MC (The first shake down the guy stops trying to give run around as soon as MC puts hand on shoulder, the personal trainer firstly the ex BF going from rage to shitting himself without even been hit and when Personal Trainer that coming on to him after bandages wrist totally backtracks after putting hand on his cheek, even when first saving Alex and she freaking out and trying to back away, as soon as he touches her she calms significantly and actually apologises.

No doubt over analysing it all but since we speculating I thought I throw it out there.
 
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Is it bad that I didn't pick up on any of this supernatural stuff you guys are talking about? I don't remember any of this except the blackout/mauling in the lastest update and even that didn't make me think anything weird was going on. Man I gotta quit taking my meds before playing this stuff. Missing out on too much.
 

magus448

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Is it bad that I didn't pick up on any of this supernatural stuff you guys are talking about? I don't remember any of this except the blackout/mauling in the lastest update and even that didn't make me think anything weird was going on. Man I gotta quit taking my meds before playing this stuff. Missing out on too much.
Most of that is speculation and filling in blanks. Only thing "supernatural" bit I've seen is him healing quickly. He may just be an escaped experimentee, government or ortherwise.
 
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TheCrimsonRevenger

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Is it bad that I didn't pick up on any of this supernatural stuff you guys are talking about? I don't remember any of this except the blackout/mauling in the lastest update and even that didn't make me think anything weird was going on. Man I gotta quit taking my meds before playing this stuff. Missing out on too much.
We're mostly just filling time between updates with speculation, lol.

Mind you, I am effing brilliant and my idle speculation is worth anyone elses cold hard data.

No brag. Just fact.
 

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I like that the main love interest isn't as one dimensional as in other games. Only existing in order to be plowed by the MC. Or well, the games where the buxom love interest/female MC gets plowed by everyone.


Alex has an actual life and her own relationships that you barge into. If there is anything that slightly annoys me it is that Puppy got intimate with her as quick as he did.


Izzy and MC are kindred spirits. Izzy trying and failing to off MC was in my opinion beautifully (or at least sufficiently) telegraphed and provided enjoyable character building. It could have been more in depth but I doubt people want to hang around for years waiting for their first peek at a nipple while the authors do pure character building for a dozen updates.


Alex and MC have their own... connection. Magic? Don't know, but can't wait to find out. They are somehow bonded together. If anyone is bothered by the MC being "Alex's man/puppy" then I think they are shit out of luck with this game. The girl is literally inside his head.


I love the relationship triangle. Also I'm pretty sure they are half-sisters so that is going to add some spice.


The secondary girls don't really tickle me. Apart from the informant girl.


The criticisms that "I feel like I'm being cuckolded" are subjective and subjectively trash. You're the "other guy". While an option to keep things professional with Alex while pursuing other relationship options would be grand, it's a porn game. Drawing the line at "two chicks making out in my bed" when deciding what is fucked and what isn't seems ridiculous. But I suppose that is subjective.


I might even rate this above Dreaming of Dana. Time will tell. Not enough content yet. But having no annoying grinding is a huge plus.
Enjoyed your thoughts and hope you don't mind I share mine on points you bought up. Loved this game so far and the nuances of both characters and plot.
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We're mostly just filling time between updates with speculation, lol.

Mind you, I am effing brilliant and my idle speculation is worth anyone elses cold hard data.

No brag. Just fact.
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can you tell me how to do it in this game, I have a file here that left my 3 icons all with 999 points but I keep picking up a lot, I already tried to click on the guy's face and nothing happens know how to attack ai.thks
 

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can you tell me how to do it in this game, I have a file here that left my 3 icons all with 999 points but I keep picking up a lot, I already tried to click on the guy's face and nothing happens know how to attack ai.thks
If your not accidentally posting in the wrong thread, you might be playing an outdated version of the game as it's now just a VN with no sandbox and stats anymore.
 
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If your not accidentally posting in the wrong thread, you might be playing an outdated version of the game as it's now just a VN with no sandbox and stats anymore.
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sorry I did not understand your answer I barely speak English whats this about vpn and what does it have to do with what I want to know, I asked for help on how to fight in the game because there is no point in the game screen to click on.
 

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sorry I did not understand your answer I barely speak English whats this about vpn and what does it have to do with what I want to know, I asked for help on how to fight in the game because there is no point in the game screen to click on.
There is no fighting in this game.
 
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