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Daxter250

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If you can't afford to make a porn game just don't lol. I wasn't mad I just said I'm not playing it. It's like making a story game without a writer so you steal someone else's story and say you'll replace it later when or if you get the money. The art doesn't even have to be hand drawn. Koikatsu or Honey select is way better than straight up stolen art because if the characters look nice the players/devs can have whatever scenes they want with that character rather than being limited to stolen artwork scenes.

The html games are low quality and I don't really like em. They're barely games so this whataboutism means nothing to me. Also do you really want me to hand money to a dev that can't even get basic artwork like from Koikatsu or Honey select? If I'm giving money it's to the devs who can be bothered to draw/model or pose/create the characters themselves.
if you cant affort dont do it lololololol. what bs neo-capitalistic answer is this? you should be ashamed of yourself. but hey, if you cant afford food, just dont eat. ez.
ima not wait til some rich fuck decides to make a porn game and im glad that even poor devs are making games. the more the merrier and the more diamonds we will find.

ever used honey select or koikatsu? doing models and scenes with it is a chore and doesnt even look good. not to mention that you also need to code the game, write the story, do the audio, the balancing, compile it properly, make sure it doesnt lag like shit and so on. time is essential here. dont forget the game is on rpg maker. using 3d models in 2d style game with cartoony looks feels out of place. you can do it but personally im glad he chose not to. id rather have stolen art at this point.

saying that htmls are low quality just shows that you barely played em. pregmod e.g. might be the biggest and richful slave management game so far. and that game is on html, coming with 4 different art styles.

my tip for you: dont play the game if you feel like stolen art hurts your ego. i will gladly play them and have a blast with em :BootyTime:
 

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if you cant affort dont do it lololololol. what bs neo-capitalistic answer is this? you should be ashamed of yourself. but hey, if you cant afford food, just dont eat. ez.
ima not wait til some rich fuck decides to make a porn game and im glad that even poor devs are making games. the more the merrier and the more diamonds we will find.

ever used honey select or koikatsu? doing models and scenes with it is a chore and doesnt even look good. not to mention that you also need to code the game, write the story, do the audio, the balancing, compile it properly, make sure it doesnt lag like shit and so on. time is essential here. dont forget the game is on rpg maker. using 3d models in 2d style game with cartoony looks feels out of place. you can do it but personally im glad he chose not to. id rather have stolen art at this point.

saying that htmls are low quality just shows that you barely played em. pregmod e.g. might be the biggest and richful slave management game so far. and that game is on html, coming with 4 different art styles.

my tip for you: dont play the game if you feel like stolen art hurts your ego. i will gladly play them and have a blast with em :BootyTime:
"Koikatsu and Honey select look bad" wrong lol some of the games aren't to my taste but there are ones that I like. And you don't need to be rich to make Koikatsu and Honey select characters and scenes. You need to learn how to use the tools but it's essentially "free" bar having a PC that can run it. You don't need to be rich.

I'm not very into html games because I prefer to look at my porn rather than read it. That being said I'd personally prefer no cgs over stolen ones. Partially because if I recognise the characters it can take me out of the "immersion" of your game world and partially because of the inconsistent art style etc.

I mean I like Koikatsu games but some of them have had characters I recognise from anime but labelled as someone else and it's a little jarring. I guess now that I think about it I might not be completely against stolen CGs if they came from a game or VN I couldn't read because it's not English but they are limiting to devs because they are limited specifically to the scenarios presented in the original VN. But generally speaking stolen CG games aren't great and because I don't consume porn faster than it is created I probably won't play stolen CG games for a long time if at all.
 

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"Koikatsu and Honey select look bad" wrong lol some of the games aren't to my taste but there are ones that I like. And you don't need to be rich to make Koikatsu and Honey select characters and scenes.
it takes time which i pointed out. if you make a game all on your own you will see it yourself how little time you actually have for art then. they do look bad, especially for 2021, but as you stated "there are ones that i like". copy and paste that sentence to games with stolen art. :whistle:
I'm not very into html games because I prefer to look at my porn rather than read it.
again, there are enough htmls that offer more than enough art, also not stolen ones. thinking that html is all about reading is also a false assumption. played htmls that were mostly just pics and barely any text. i kinda find it hilarious, cause you mentioned VNs. those are actually games where you mostly just read with a still image in the background.

really, dont be too harsh on devs for using art from others, especially when they wanna replace it anyway. the dev from ravager did it like that, he used art from others (he also asked for permission too!) and by now he replaced borrowed art with own made art and the game is a fucking gem with a huge fanbase and it's even on steam now. but you gotta start from somewhere. if he followed your advice he wouldn't have made the game in the first place, cause he couldn't afford to pay for art in the first place.
 

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it takes time which i pointed out. if you make a game all on your own you will see it yourself how little time you actually have for art then. they do look bad, especially for 2021, but as you stated "there are ones that i like". copy and paste that sentence to games with stolen art. :whistle:

again, there are enough htmls that offer more than enough art, also not stolen ones. thinking that html is all about reading is also a false assumption. played htmls that were mostly just pics and barely any text. i kinda find it hilarious, cause you mentioned VNs. those are actually games where you mostly just read with a still image in the background.

really, dont be too harsh on devs for using art from others, especially when they wanna replace it anyway. the dev from ravager did it like that, he used art from others (he also asked for permission too!) and by now he replaced borrowed art with own made art and the game is a fucking gem with a huge fanbase and it's even on steam now. but you gotta start from somewhere. if he followed your advice he wouldn't have made the game in the first place, cause he couldn't afford to pay for art in the first place.
I mean if it's temp art they should at least state it. I have no reason to try games with stolen art right now when I can play original games. Visual novels aren't games btw. There is no gameplay. If you can complete the "game" by holding one button it's not a game. They're something between manga and anime. Sometimes mixed with a choose your own adventure book thing with branching pathes. There are a few exceptions where VNs are games such as Danganronpa or Ace Attorney.

Also with html games almost all the ones I see are pretty obviously using screenshots from porn. I don't think I've seen any originals outside of that one game where you play as a kid.
 
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I mean if it's temp art they should at least state it.
you can't state is as you don't know if you will ever have enough money to buy new art.

Visual novels aren't games btw. There is no gameplay.
good joke. you should try out the mother of VNs . tell me afterwards if you still think VNs aren't games. what you are refering to is called a kinetic VN, a subgenre of VNs.

Also with html games almost all the ones I see are pretty obviously using screenshots from porn.
look further and you will find 'em, as i did ;).
 

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And yet another bug: After defeating the skeletons and Hlaland I am supposed to talk again to Aika. The dialogue starts and then black screen again, so I'm stuck with the main quest, can't progress further...
im stuck there too
any solution?
 

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you can't state is as you don't know if you will ever have enough money to buy new art.


good joke. you should try out the mother of VNs . tell me afterwards if you still think VNs aren't games. what you are refering to is called a kinetic VN, a subgenre of VNs.


look further and you will find 'em, as i did ;).
"You can't state if it's temp art if you don't know if you'll have enough to buy new art"
This is avoided by posing characters yourself even if temporary. "But it's hard" if you can't be arsed to take the effort to learn one of these posing/modelling games if you can't afford art then that speaks volumes about the future of the game lol. I said it before but I'd prefer no art of a black title card saying "art planned here" then stolen shit for previously outlined reasons.

I checked the latest updates few days and nothing has passed by on html. "just look further" yes i'll look for something I have little interest in.

Yu-no is probably a choose your own adventure or something and the art doesn't look appealing to me. I already stated that *some* vns are games so idk why you're linking another one lol. My point is most VNs have zero actual gameplay besides maybe choosing a path/dialogue box. You can't point to the few exceptions and say VNs are games when in most cases they VNs aren't games. VNs aren't games by default. They can be games but the statement "visual novels are games" is false considering that it doesn't apply to most of them. It's a sweeping statement that applies to a minority of them.
 

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This is avoided by posing characters yourself even if temporary. "But it's hard" if you can't be arsed to take the effort to learn one of these posing/modelling games if you can't afford art then that speaks volumes about the future of the game lol.
again, im refering to games like ravager. ask the dev what it is like to make a game and also tell him that in your vision he the dev shouldn't even make his game in the first place.

the game company had stolen 3d art and real porn pictures for years now and generated enough funds to slowly add its own art as a replacement. it takes time and money, that's it. end of story. if you can do it better, do a game yourself and show us how its done!

Yu-no is probably a choose your own adventure or something and the art doesn't look appealing to me.
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i think we should stop our conversation here before you embarass yourself even more here. jesus christ.
lil tip: it ain't a choose your own adventure and it's also not "the art", cause there are two versions of the game, the 1996 version which comes in old fashion point colorization and a remake with modernized drawing. again, fucking play the game instead of making prematures assumption. then you can talk with me afterwards.
 

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ok so i did a big chain quest with michelle at the end michelle was attacked and i teliported her to safety
last step of the chain was to find someone i can use as a spy without them even knowing they are being used as a spy with my mind reading powers or what ever..so i searched around the slums found a girl that i could use (or so i thought)
end with needing to find a way to stimulate her mind went back to the castle and barracks and nothing useful there
ive tried to google its a hit or miss because the walkthrough isnt really great and certainly far from complete and couldnt find info for THIS quest can someone help me ?thanks in advance guys
 

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im stuck there too
any solution?
Basically, if you can't fix it with the bug fixer or by reloading earlier save, then you're out of luck.
The game has accumulated a lot of bugs over the years and... lets just say Crouler ain't very on-top of fixing all of em quite yet.
ok so i did a big chain quest with michelle at the end michelle was attacked and i teliported her to safety
last step of the chain was to find someone i can use as a spy without them even knowing they are being used as a spy with my mind reading powers or what ever..so i searched around the slums found a girl that i could use (or so i thought)
end with needing to find a way to stimulate her mind went back to the castle and barracks and nothing useful there
ive tried to google its a hit or miss because the walkthrough isnt really great and certainly far from complete and couldnt find info for THIS quest can someone help me ?thanks in advance guys
From what i recall after you find the spy she goes to the barracks and so should you to make plans.
There is also an item that logs your quests, it's rather crappy but still can be useful to check what stage you're at.
 

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Basically, if you can't fix it with the bug fixer or by reloading earlier save, then you're out of luck.
The game has accumulated a lot of bugs over the years and... lets just say Crouler ain't very on-top of fixing all of em quite yet.

From what i recall after you find the spy she goes to the barracks and so should you to make plans.
There is also an item that logs your quests, it's rather crappy but still can be useful to check what stage you're at.
i have a few quests im stumped on for the spy when i click on her and go through the dialog last it says is i need to stimulate her mind...after i couldnt figure out what to do i went to barracks and michelle got her promotion and then went to a party and forget what else was said BUT nothing to do with the spy at all (seems weird considering the spy is from michelle quest chain)
also at castle (different quest im stumped with)you will get interrupted by someone needing you help with finding their niece
they tell you they will meet you at the entrance of fvar BUT when i go there they are no where to be found and i cant go to the inn something about a funeral and waiting for their daughter to return so you leave (not sure how to get around that)
went to the church and im suppose to knock people up BUT of course cant do THAT quest because im unable to go to the inn
(another quest)found this by accident looking for documents for a quest while searching book case i ended up killing a skeleton boss and then im suppose to go and talk to (forget her name but starts with F )no idea where to find her to hand in quest
and YES i completed the documents quest.i start quests and then when i get stuck i go and do other quests,etc and rinse repeat
and now i got a whack of quests im stuck on LOL and the walkthorugh is pretty useless its missing about 70 to 80% of the game LOL
 

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i have a few quests im stumped on for the spy when i click on her and go through the dialog last it says is i need to stimulate her mind...after i couldnt figure out what to do i went to barracks and michelle got her promotion and then went to a party and forget what else was said BUT nothing to do with the spy at all (seems weird considering the spy is from michelle quest chain)
It sounds like you may have finished the quest without realizing it.
Did a new boat appear in Rei long oak?
If it did then the quest is done and you can use the boat to visit the spy chick for sexy time with her friend and (eventually) with her.

also at castle (different quest im stumped with)you will get interrupted by someone needing you help with finding their niece
they tell you they will meet you at the entrance of fvar BUT when i go there they are no where to be found
Sorry don't think i remember this one.
But "entrance" may mean outside of Fuar not inside of it. Near the entrance to the town.
And the town also has multiple exists and entrances, so you can try checking them all.
something about a funeral and waiting for their daughter to return so you leave (not sure how to get around that)
went to the church and im suppose to knock people up BUT of course cant do THAT quest because im unable to go to the inn
The funeral thing is related to the major or Fuar if i remember right.
Should be main quest related.
Fuar church quest is also related to the major of Fuar.
Therefore you need to unlock Fuar's major first.

(another quest)found this by accident looking for documents for a quest while searching book case i ended up killing a skeleton boss and then im suppose to go and talk to (forget her name but starts with F )no idea where to find her to hand in quest
This sounds like it may be part of detective quests.
You turn those in the capital, there is an inn and near it there supposed to be the "C.U.N.T." detective agency.

Also you may want to focus on one thing at a time, otherwise yeah you may end up with a mess because this game doesn't have a very good quest log so you end up relying on your memory a lot.
 

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It sounds like you may have finished the quest without realizing it.
Did a new boat appear in Rei long oak?
If it did then the quest is done and you can use the boat to visit the spy chick for sexy time with her friend and (eventually) with her.


Sorry don't think i remember this one.
But "entrance" may mean outside of Fuar not inside of it. Near the entrance to the town.
And the town also has multiple exists and entrances, so you can try checking them all.

The funeral thing is related to the major or Fuar if i remember right.
Should be main quest related.
Fuar church quest is also related to the major of Fuar.
Therefore you need to unlock Fuar's major first.


This sounds like it may be part of detective quests.
You turn those in the capital, there is an inn and near it there supposed to be the "C.U.N.T." detective agency.

Also you may want to focus on one thing at a time, otherwise yeah you may end up with a mess because this game doesn't have a very good quest log so you end up relying on your memory a lot.
the funeral stuff happened as soon as i entered the inn so far there i did the cheating quest get a girl a coat and ya end up knocking her up, etc then went to the church for the prego quest (locked out of the inn since i went to town there)
another quest i forgot is at the very end in town is a weird guy starts off ya hear a bang and then ya goto fight him and then ends up being nothing sends ya to get his daughter then ya end up going into business for something the deal breaks and he wants you to fix it (dont know what im suppose to do or where to go)
up on entering town came accross a house that has no door (been in/out of that town a few times trying to get quests wanna do the mines,etc but cant everything is all about the inn and im locked out cuz of the funeral)
founsomeone that was suppose to be staying at the castle or church (forget but one of the 2)they mention the part about the house with no door,etc and stuff about snow?ya man ive been all over doing quests just getting angry cuz the walk through is absolute garbage (sorry to say that but it really is)if it was good i wouldnt be here looking for help with multiple quests, etc LOL
oh and to answer question about boat i wasnt really paying attention so if it did i have no idea i just left town and went cruising other places
from the michelle quest line i also got a slave that was suppose to be at my castle BUT cant find not in my room and not in any of the cells in my castle
got a frog for a pet tho!!! LOL in my barn
 
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(dont know what im suppose to do or where to go)
Well... maybe read what's written when you talk to the guy.... that is how i completed most quests in this game. :sneaky: :coffee:
Also may want to remember that i said there was an item you can use that shows information about quests, you may want to use that item to figure out your quests and their completion state.
 

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Well... maybe read what's written when you talk to the guy.... that is how i completed most quests in this game. :sneaky: :coffee:
Also may want to remember that i said there was an item you can use that shows information about quests, you may want to use that item to figure out your quests and their completion state.
is there something other then journal maybe im missing something somewhere?i been wandering around fvar or what ever
looking for more entrances i spawned the NPC or what ever tells u about the house (i already discovered house LONG before i seen this spawn)but npc name is exelar
going in circles all around and all ive found is a weird ritual guy says jiberish really...then the mines that my mc wont go through until learns more info about them....ive been going back and forth from journal and the wanna be walkthrough thats about as useful as tits on a bloody bull
 

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is there something other then journal maybe im missing something somewhere?i been wandering around fvar or what ever
looking for more entrances i spawned the NPC or what ever tells u about the house (i already discovered house LONG before i seen this spawn)but npc name is exelar
going in circles all around and all ive found is a weird ritual guy says jiberish really...then the mines that my mc wont go through until learns more info about them....ive been going back and forth from journal and the wanna be walkthrough thats about as useful as tits on a bloody bull
You should probably just restart the game and then carefully follow that wiki guide if you can't manage without it.
Do quests one by one or at most a couple at a time so you can keep details about them in your head.
Then you won't get lost.
Plus wiki guide may be a little outdated so keep that in mind when comparing information you got in-game and from wiki.
 

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Okay i think i found how you can progress with your Fuar Major problem.
You need to complete
I think it's described well enough.
Completing this should unlock things like fertility quest (church) in Fuar.
 

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You should probably just restart the game and then carefully follow that wiki guide if you can't manage without it.
Do quests one by one or at most a couple at a time so you can keep details about them in your head.
Then you won't get lost.
Plus wiki guide may be a little outdated so keep that in mind when comparing information you got in-game and from wiki.
im trying to fix up the mess i got myself into with all these different quests. etc not really to crazy about the idea of starting a new game from scratch and if i were to do that id likely end up in same boat LOL
i got a lot of hours in this game at least a week or so not sure of when exactly i started but i got some cool shit now
a lot of different spells and epic summoning (no idea how i got most of them)got my castle and got brothels in a few towns
got a farm and few other things a shop too by where farm is sorta i got a lot of work in to the game trying to hang in there
im 90% sure with where i am history repeat itself if i started new game BUT sooner or later ill maybe end up doing that tho
 

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Okay i think i found how you can progress with your Fuar Major problem.
You need to complete
I think it's described well enough.
Completing this should unlock things like fertility quest (church) in Fuar.
cool thank you the one thing i havent been doing is the quest boards because im loaded with quests,etc as was
BUT that link really helped turns out i need a quest from the board to start everything
i just been working on stuff already in journal from wandering i guess ..gonna change my tactics LOL thanks a ton
and thanks to everyone else too thats been helping me out as well
 

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cool thank you the one thing i havent been doing is the quest boards because im loaded with quests,etc as was
BUT that link really helped turns out i need a quest from the board to start everything
i just been working on stuff already in journal from wandering i guess ..gonna change my tactics LOL thanks a ton
and thanks to everyone else too thats been helping me out as well
Here is the quest category:
In there you should in theory find solutions to most quests.
If you compare with the journal item in-game you probably won't have problems figuring out most of the quests you picked up. But keep in mind that some stuff may be outdated.
 
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