VN Ren'Py Completed AlwaysFan [v1.0] [AtemX Games]

[Nadira]

I don’t know what you are talking about. I guess you didn't play the love route, because up until that moment there was no real indication of that plot (except a single ignored email, which is even debatable) and the MC had never met or been introduced to any of those characters.

From my perspective, MC helps an old high school friend, they take pictures for AF, she declares her love for MC, they decide MC should try to make more money by photographing more girls... and then suddenly I am being showed a perspective of characters I have never seen before. It was very jarring and out of nowhere. I thought it was a bug. Up until this point I had only seen things from the MC's view (and some of Emilie's thoughts).

Wrong. I only played the love route. Two times by now. It's you that has no idea what he's talking about. And I know exactly the scene you're talking about.
It's as the dev and I said the introduction of the villains.

Can you also confirm whether there will be further unavoidable sex scenes of other characters besides the MC and LIs? Based on the warnings I read, I thought this would be entirely avoidable.

If you're harem/love your girls are save.

 

[Eunoian]

Wrong. I only played the love route. Two times by now. It's you that has no idea what he's talking about. And I know exactly the scene you're talking about.

It's as the dev and I said the introduction of the villains.

I don't know if you're trolling or misreading, but I clearly explained why it was out of nowhere and how I read the warnings about the game and believed such content would be avoidable. I don’t know how else to explain that suddenly seeing other characters from the prostitution/sharing path (having sex) seven days in was jarring and unwanted.

I also never claimed you were referring to the wrong scene. I said "I don't know what you are talking about" because the trafficking ring a) had not been brought up before in the game and b) to my understanding at that point, should belong to a different route.

If you're harem/love your girls are save.

That is not what I asked. Will I be forced to see other characters have sex again?

 

[Nadira]

I don't know if you're trolling or misreading, but I clearly explained why it was out of nowhere and how I read the warnings about the game and believed such content would be avoidable. I don’t know how else to explain that suddenly seeing other characters from the prostitution/sharing path (having sex) seven days in was jarring and unwanted.

Wrong again. Girls going missing is literally something that is brought up multiple times while watching TV with Emilie.
You clearly didn't pay attention. I knew that this game was about girls being exploited on AlwaysFan 5 minutes in on my first playthrough. And of course we're going to see the villains in their "lair" talking about it.

Like bruh...
You call me a troll while missing things that are so obvious.

You clearly also didn't read the overview.
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[Mommysbuttslut]

I don’t know how else to explain that suddenly seeing other characters from the prostitution/sharing path (having sex) seven days in was jarring and unwanted.

Those aren't characters from the prostitution path. They're the villains of the main storyline. None of the girls we see in the tower are LIs. They're all victims of the human sex trafficking conspiracy which the main storyline of this game is built around.
It's supposed to be unwanted and jarring. You're supposed to feel uncomfortable seeing that scene. It builds up the main conflict and invests the reader into wanting to stop it. The actual love stories in the game are wholesome and heartwarming, but the conflict around them is meant to be emotionally uncomfortable. If you're not upset about it at times then either you're not emotionally connecting to the story or there's something wrong with you. That's by design.
Yes the human trafficking is referenced. If you're paying attention to the world building then there should be no surprise that things like that are going on regardless of what path you're on.

 

[Eunoian]

Wrong again. Girls going missing is literally something that is brought up multiple times while watching TV with Emilie...

I disagree with your comment entirely, and could explain dozens of different ways the game could go based on the first seven days.

Again, I made the choices to avoid that route and, in a way, after ignroing the email expected that I "won't be bothered with this type of content again later on." Protecting or saving LIs from crime has nothing to do with suddenly being shown them or other characters having sex.

I only wanted to know what content I should continue to expect, and you replied to me being rude and dismissive.

Were you expecting them to sit in a cute sunlit café, talking about how it's super cute to run a human trafficking ring?

I was expecting not to see it at all. At best, maybe hear about it (via the news or future LIs).

Those aren't characters from the prostitution path. They're the villains of the main storyline. None of the girls we see in the tower are LIs. They're all victims of the human sex trafficking conspiracy which the main sotryline of this game is built around...

So the LIs are never shared with the traficking ring leader/customers on either path?

Thank you. Then it just isn’t for me then. I appreciate your explanation.

I understand it was going on – the surprise was the scene. Referenced is one thing, but I wasn’t expecting to be shown it. Especially when I played seven days from only the MC and Emilie's perspective.

 

[pitao]

It just a brief scene and you can always skip it fast or even better suggest to the developer to put a warning and a skip renders option with just the dialogue for the more "sensitive" viewers (like it makes sense in a porn game with enough synopsis information about what can happen in it, but ok) but instead you prefer to argue and assume things like this

So the LIs are never shared with the traficking ring leader/customers on either path?

Thank you. Then it just isn’t for me then. I appreciate your explanation.

They were talking just like you about the Love path, isn't that way in the other path almost 100% sure even though only played the Love route but I follow the thread for long and for what the sharing lovers say that happens, NTR/sharing isn't for me but when you end the game you can unlock the gallery and almost sure for the look of the preview scenes in the NTR section that they are shared with the baddies.

I didn't liked to watch that scene also but makes sense to see a bit of the "dark side" of the story and gave me even more motivation to put it down lol it is just a short scene and I made it even shorter lol and since there is no NTR in it I don't really see the point for so many arguments about it.

Edit: AlwaysFan is one of the few games that really seems to do well the no ntr and ntr in the same game, I really enjoyed the Love Harem route and specially the ending, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a flaw here and there, specially in a game with so much content and made in few more than 2 years with a good quality overall, where plenty of developers just delay and delay and milk their payed users, AtemX completed it fast improving their developing skills on the way. Next game will be even better, learning from the few mistakes here and there.

 

[Nadira]

They were talking just like you about the Love path.

I was. As I said before, it's the introduction to the villains and serves at motivation to put an end to their human trafficking.
You don't even see those dudes for like 99% of the game if you're on the love/harem path to begin with.
So I really have no idea why that dude got so mad.

 

[pitao]

I was. As I said before, it's the introduction to the villains and serves at motivation to put an end to their human trafficking.
You don't even see those dudes for like 99% of the game if you're on the love/harem path to begin with.
So I really have no idea why that dude got so mad.

There is plenty of members here in F95 that "demand" a perfect game and when they criticize they do it the wrong way, they are overly sensitive about a scene that shouldn't be there or that we are forced to see this or that. Dunno maybe I'm old with my almost 50 years old and don't see the point to point out the minor flaws in such a fierce way lmao. Maybe it is why I only follow games that I really enjoy and ignore the games I don't like and besides those in my sig and this one there are 6 more, so my top 8 is really atm a top 15 hahaha let me change that quickly

 

[Eunoian]

...more "sensitive" viewers (like it makes sense in a porn game with enough synopsis information about what can happen in it...

Or just preference. Are people who don’t like BDSM “sensitive”? Not everyone watches porn either or cares to see others have sex. I can choose to only play games where I self-insert. Games are one of the most immersive forms of media.

And again, what can happen in the background and what is explicitly shown can be different. I was asking questions to decide whether to continue.

...but instead you prefer to argue and assume things like this

I asked a question and didn't assume anything.

They said "Those aren't characters from the prostitution path. They're the villains of the main storyline" which could imply that when on the other path these characters do not sleep with the LIs. I was just confused by what they meant and asked a clarifying question.

I then thanked them for the rest of their answer that explained a lot more about the game. I said it isn't for me because I am not interested in the conflict or seeing those type of scenes. I keep my drama consumption to movies and novels.

I think you’re assuming the two comments referenced each other. The question and the reason I said it’s not for me are separate. I should have broken up their comment when responding.

...and almost sure for the look of the preview scenes in the NTR section that they are shared with the baddies.

Thank you for answering the question.

I didn't liked to watch that scene also but makes sense to see a bit of the "dark side" of the story and gave me even more motivation to put it down lol it is just a short scene and I made it even shorter lol and since there is no NTR in it I don't really see the point for so much arguments about it.

Fair enough. I wasn't arguing. I asked a couple questions and one person wanted to be rude, I guess. I gave them the benefit of doubt and explained myself and they argued with me.

I have no problem dropping the game and expect nothing of the developer. The game is complete.

 

[Eunoian]

So I really have no idea why that dude got so mad.

I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling or not, or if my comment is being misread. I’m not mad and was never mad. Just confused why you were rude and started arguing with me after I explained my experience of the game.

Were you expecting them to sit in a cute sunlit café, talking about how it's super cute to run a human trafficking ring?

Why say this? To be rude and troll? Or have I been misreading you from the start as well.

Wrong. I only played the love route. Two times by now. It's you that has no idea what he's talking about.

I never said I had any idea what I was talking about. I’m on day seven. In fact, I said, “I don’t know what you are talking about”, made a small cheeky comment back after your rudeness and then explained my perspective.

And I know exactly the scene you're talking about.

I also never said you were referring to the wrong scene (I was already aware the tower scene appears on both routes).

 

[Nadira]

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Last time I'm commenting on your posts.

Fist, nobody here was rude to you. Not even close.
My initial comment to you is what's generally called a joke.

The joke was about you seeing the villains in their evil tower instead of talking in a "cute café".

Please don't quote answer this post. I'm tired of this discussion and we're bordering on being off-topic.
Play the game or don't. I don't care. Even if it's a very good one.

 

[Eunoian]

There is plenty of members here in F95 that "demand" a perfect game and when they criticize they do it the wrong way, they are overly sensitive about a scene that shouldn't be there or that we are forced to see this or that. Dunno maybe I'm old with my almost 50 years old and don't see the point to point out the minor flaws in such a fierce way lmao. Maybe it is why I only follow games that I really enjoy and ignore the games I don't like and besides those in my sig and this one there are 6 more, so my top 8 is really atm a top 15 hahaha let me change that quickly

I never demanded anything and only asked a couple questions. I don't even think I pointed out a flaw.

I said I wasn't expecting that scene and explained why. Then asked if it would continue throughout the rest of the game or was a one off. Later I explained my perspective and experience of the game up to that point in a reply.

The question was to decide whether or not to continue. I never said it was wrong or bad or demanded anything. It was just unexpected based on what I had read and experienced to that point. Now that my questions have been answered I will ignore it. No big deal.

 

[Eunoian]

Last time I'm commenting on your posts.

Fist, nobody here was rude to you. Not even close.
My initial comment to you is what's generally called a joke.

The joke was about you seeing the villains in their evil tower instead of talking in a "cute café".

Please don't quote answer this post. I'm tired of this discussion and we're bordering on being off-topic.
Play the game or don't. I don't care. Even if it's a very good one.

You were rude, yes. The "joke" is at my expense. How is that not rude? It either insults my sensibilities/preferences or it insults my intelligence by posing as a question.

"Were you expecting them to sit in a cute sunlit café, talking about how it's super cute to run a human trafficking ring?"

No, I wasn't expecting a cute cafe and obviously I wasn't expecting the scene I got either.

 

[pitao]

I said I wasn't expecting that scene and explained why. Then asked if it would continue throughout the rest of the game or was a one off. Later I explained my perspective and experience of the game up to that point in a reply.

Got it, well I was expecting it because the game have somewhat a "dark" background and for long it was a life struggle from the main chars but was mostly too "bright" for several game days but I still didn't liked to watch it and made the effect/reaction the dev was searching for I guess, that this story isn't all roses and sunflowers lol that some thorns and clouds will appear too. This kind of games are easier to make from the NTR/Corrupt perspective and usually when you follow the NO NTR/Love/Romance perspective issues like those will always appear.

But mostly because before I try a new game I usually silently search about the game a bit specially when they have tags like netorare or netorase or sharing, avoiding major spoilers ofc, read a few (very few like 1 or 2 of each perspective and that give valid arguments) positive and negative reviews (usually avoiding the 1 star ones because most the time is just haters), I always check the tags and warnings in the OP also so rarely I get surprised about the content.

In the case of AlwaysFan mostly I tried to check from other posts and the OP if the NTR/sharing was fully avoidable, checked a few reviews also. It has a few "red flag" tags that made me make sure it was a game for me, tags like Blackmail/Corruption/netorare/prostitution/rape/swinging. But in the Love harem path most or all of them after the research I made I was almost sure it was avoidable or very tame but I knew that I could see a little of the minor ones in my book like blackmail or corruption.

 

[Eunoian]

Got it, well I was expecting it because the game have somewhat a "dark" background...

Yes, thank you. I agree with your approach and do the same. In my original post I mentioned having read the dev notes and skimming the thread. I should have looked harder, I guess.

I had an idea about the fact that the game included prostitution (and took place "in a world where crime is at its worst"), but I thought the prositiution scenes would be avoidable (sounded like the sharing/nts route).

I even tried to find the reference I supposedly missed. The other commenter mentioned missing girls in the news. I don't think I made it that far. I searched the code, and the first reference of missing/disappearing people was on day 12. So either I missed something entirely or people are misremembering it having already played through the game. I was only working off info from the dev notes, a few posts via search, and the first seven days.

By the end of day seven, I didn't know the story revolved around a trafficking ring. I am not sure why my question caused such a commotion.

 

[pitao]

By the end of day seven, I didn't know the story revolved around a trafficking ring. I am not sure why my question caused such a commotion.

No harm done I hope it is hard on the internet to make sure the intentions of others without looking at their faces lol (sometimes even in real life I think I have to put a sarcasm or joking sign on my forehead so others don't get it wrong lmao) Btw don't get angry at Nadira, in my book it is a nice person and usually I like their posts so their joke was hard to know the intention behind it but I'm almost sure it wasn't from a bad place. Honestly I laughed at it but I knew that wasn't in a trolling way.

 

[Eunoian]

No harm done I hope it is hard on the internet to make sure the intentions of others without looking at their faces lol (sometimes even in real life I think I have to put a sarcasm or joking sign on my forehead so others don't get it wrong lmao) Btw don't get angry at Nadira, in my book it is a nice person and usually I like their posts so their joke was hard to know the intention behind it but I'm almost sure it wasn't from a bad place. Honestly I laughed at it but I knew that wasn't in a trolling way.

Yeah, fair enough. No harm done.

If they had also answered my question, I might have picked up on that. Since there was no like jk or actual answer to my question afterwards, I honestly thought they were being rude for the sake of it. My explaining myself seemed to set off a chain of replies that I think misinterpreted my intentions.

I guess I'm just getting old. Never having used social media probably doesn't help.