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Morah SDG

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Well, if it's feedback you're looking for, #1 with a bullet is 'add a tell (or a charge-start) to all the big powerful attacks that are intended to be dodged, otherwise the intangibility is worthless.

Second... basic attack needs to do way more damage, or enemies need less health.
I'm using octo-strike, and i'm barely doing anything. I can't imagine how bad it is without it.

Third: Spread-ray is an interesting idea. I normally love AOE attacks, but this one is worthless.
It does mediocre damage to one target, and chip-damage to the others. Most fights are 1v1, so it's broadly less useful than focused Ray, and when you do fight 3v1, you're not actually doing noticeable damage to the non-targeted enemies.

I don't know the numbers, but it feels like it does maybe 10-30% damage on the non-target enemies.
I blasted in the tutorial till I ran out of mp, but by the time the main target was dead, the other two were basically unharmed, so I immediately went back and picked the other ray option.

Maybe they healed, but either way, I fired at the whole group for three or four turns and everyone but the first guy was still on full-health at the end of it, which made the whole skill seem completely worthless.
I'm pretty sure there are always visual indicators to the enemies stronger attacks, one just needs to look out for them. I'll compile a list of the ones I know of and post them here.

I'll otherwise pass along your notes. (y)
 
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I'm pretty sure there are always visual indicators to the enemies stronger attacks, one just needs to look out for them. I'll compile a list of the ones I know of and post them here.

I'll otherwise pass along your notes. (y)
Ember has a vague red outline, but it's not super obvious.
the big purple dragon has a bit where it's mouth opens, but if you avoid the fire-breath attack that follows, it'll just use it again next turn so it's unavoidable.
Any of the ones before that, I didn't notice.

Desiree in the new tutorial definitely doesn't seem to have one.
 

Liquid_Donut

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Same here. Still waiting 7.5 walkthrough update :(
I apologize, cannot figure out quote + reply. But PhantomStranger said this:
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Just start a new game from chapter 7.
The new content, in short, is the option to choose Desiree, Nurse Kate, Paulina or Star (and their respective quests) for the purpose of gathering orgone before the showdown with Ember, where before you could choose only Maddie and Sam.
That, and the reworking of the combat system. "
 

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Finally managed to finish playing this update, nice amount of new content despite the main story itself not actually advancing hahaha. Good to see you guys put in something to keep track of the buffs/debuffs, that helped a lot in the fight against the snake. The fights are pretty brutal and slower now, but it's a refreshing change compared to the breeze that was the older system where I could even beat the supposedly unwinnable fights with the right setup (believe me I tried to beat the first Ember fight now, managed to last until turn 28 or so but still failed, in the old battle system I could finish her in 3 lol) , and the orgone boost actually makes sense plotwise instead of being an optional single use double power attack. Being able to re-spec the build is a neat addition too, and people really should read the tutorial that tells you that when an enemy heals itself, you should brace for a power attack (maybe make that obligatory reading in the future versions?).

Gotta agree with the other people in a few points though, some enemies like Desiree use their super attacks more than once with a single charge, or the "charge" animation lingers and you think they will use it again but they do something else, sometimes it can cost a fight to take a laser to the face or waste a move. Also, as I said in a previous post, the focused laser is kinda useless with it's low power + ludicrous energy cost, the spread laser is simply superior because at least it can become a multi attack in the right fights like in the Star path.

Enjoyed the Desiree path a lot, she had tons of development here so I was a bit disappointed that her scene with Ember later stays the same despite if you asked her for the Orgone or not. Star was okay because it's pretty what you would expect of her, she showed at least a minuscule amount of empathy and concern so... it's progress I guess? Paulina kinda of seems that goes backwards if you go for her, she treats you as a tool just to get the tests answers and give your "reward" like it was just business, seems that the post-dance intimacy is gone somehow, but maybe I'm overthinking it. Also, why does all the paths assume that you took the girl you choose to get Orgone from to the dance?

Anyway, good work on the update!
 
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Also, why does all the paths assume that you took the girl you choose to get Orgone from to the dance?
Because technically, they would require it as of the moment. If you chose Desiree for the orgone this time, the character's like Star and Paulina would have had to have known who she was. Later down the line, we will add some "if/or" variant dialogue that will help determine whether or not the character would know them or not, so it can be either-or. But the dialogue Lostraven wrote involved Paulina and Star already having known who she was already.

So can you explain to me the changes you felt were made in the Desiree route that didn't reflect her behavior later on in the Ember storyline? That can also be some alternate dialogue that we change depending on your choices, but I don't know quite what you're referring to as an inconsistency right now. Thanks!
 

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Because technically, they would require it as of the moment. If you chose Desiree for the orgone this time, the character's like Star and Paulina would have had to have known who she was. Later down the line, we will add some "if/or" variant dialogue that will help determine whether or not the character would know them or not, so it can be either-or. But the dialogue Lostraven wrote involved Paulina and Star already having known who she was already.

So can you explain to me the changes you felt were made in the Desiree route that didn't reflect her behavior later on in the Ember storyline? That can also be some alternate dialogue that we change depending on your choices, but I don't know quite what you're referring to as an inconsistency right now. Thanks!
I see, thought it was a bug or something but it's future content then. About Desiree, it's not really an incosistency but more that nothing really changes despite if you ask her for orgone or not, she behaves the same and says the same lines either way. With everything that happens if you take her path in that event, one would expect that she would at least speak a bit higher of Danny and act a with little more intimacy when talking to Ember about him. Also, one thing that does come to mind is that when Ember asks her if she told Danny about the atrocities she commited in the Ghost zone and she says no, but if you do her Orgone route she actually starts talking about it with him at some point IIRC.
 
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Morah SDG

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I see, thought it was a bug or something but it's future content then. About Desiree, it's not really an incosistency but more that nothing really changes despite if you ask her for orgone or not, she behaves the same and says the same lines either way. With everything that happens if you take her path in that event, one would expect that she would at least speak a bit higher of Danny and act a with little more intimacy when talking to Ember about him. Also, one thing that does come to mind is that when Ember asks her if she told Danny about the atrocities she commited in the Ghost zone and she says no, but if you do her Orgone route she actually starts talking about it with him at some point IIRC.
She mentions that she's not good, but I don't think it was delved into. We might rescind that atrocities line though. Idk how heavy we want her fictional backstory to be, it's already pretty brutal in what we've laid out with the Sultan and the vultures and so on. Either that, or just make it less ghastly sounding and just "generally" horrific. lol

We'll definitely add some differing lines when I re-correct the Ember section of Episode 7 as well.
 
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Love the game, but anyone else like the old combat more than the new? Wasn't a big fan of the change
a lot of people disliked the rework to the battle system from what ive seen but the old system did need an overhaul and ive seen the developer comment on it with a message along the lines of 'its very much a work in progress but they are listening to the feedback and ask people be patient and give it time to develop' which is fair it was a pretty big change and i do see the potential in what they may be goin for so i look forward to seein how it changes with future updates
 

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Just played it and hate the new battle system haven't won once while the previous one need work at least you could win with that.
 
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