Drenkor

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The scene in the car provides explanation for that actually -- there's already advanced works to bring men back, and it's only a matter of (few) years. It's just something android making companies are trying to delay, because it'd obviously affect negatively their profits. So, finding a live specimen is certainly interesting opportunity, but at this stage mostly unwelcome one for the person who discovers MC's identity. Because she's one of the android makers. And no, there isn't much money in cloning men because, unlike androids men are humans with human rights and you can't produce and sell them. It's quite different from someone getting themselves their own clone.

tl;dr: it's all about the money it's all 'bout the dum dum da da dum dum
Can't agree, thats exactly because she is android maker, and she knows that men would be resurrected anyway, thats perfect opportunity for her to clone mc and control his brain with tech like she controls her daughters. She would be the first to have real men for at least 2 years earlier than any other group. And that time would be enough of her to usurp market.
 

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Can't agree, thats exactly because she is android maker, and she knows that men would be resurrected anyway, thats perfect opportunity for her to clone mc and control his brain with tech like she controls her daughters. She would be the first to have real men for at least 2 years earlier than any other group. And that time would be enough of her to usurp market.
Let me repeat the part of my reply you've apparently skipped:
And no, there isn't much money in cloning men because, unlike androids men are humans with human rights and you can't produce and sell them. It's quite different from someone getting themselves their own clone.
 
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Drenkor

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Let me repeat the part of my reply you've apparently skipped:
Come on, with all her money and influence she probably controls at least a couple of governments and has a lot of influence on those which she doesn't. And with the ability to produce men which are completely loyal to her she would be basically the god. She will be capable to dictate laws to sochiety. Moreover she has ability to switch bodies. What kind of human rights do u think allow that? Its obvious that in this world is possible to twist and interpret any laws as its convenient for the government. They even use pheromones in androids, in your opinion its all right with human rights? Moreover she has no problems with money obviously, its all about power, so it doesnt matter will she be selling this clones or not, most importantly that she will control if not all, than at the very least most of male population. So where exactly its good idea to shred the only man for experiments? She could at the very least perform this experiments on clones not on the only male in the world.
 

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Come on, with all her money and influence she probably controls at least a couple of governments and has a lot of influence on those which she doesn't.
She also has a lot of competition on the market, and that competition would love to burn her business to the ground the minute she gives them such blatant pretext. Why do you think corporations in our own world don't just blatantly break human rights and, say, employ outright slavery for their workers, even though they could very much buy more than couple of governments?

Moreover she has ability to switch bodies. What kind of human rights do u think allow that?
Evidently it is allowed and it's far easier to accept when you consider these are copies of original who willingly produced them. They are also not being sold around like cattle, have their own identities and can't be just wiped out.

They even use pheromones in androids, in your opinion its all right with human rights?
Why wouldn't it be? Whose human rights do you think get broken by a humanoid machine emitting a smell?

So where exactly its good idea to shred the only man for experiments? She could at the very least perform this experiments on clones not on the only male in the world.
But who is to say she doesn't actually do just that? Take apart the original and use obtained information and DNA to produce clones for further research. There's very little reason to keep banged up original around afterwards.
 

RNDM

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Strikes me as rather taking for granted something that one glance at how the real world works and has worked for millennia tells us *really* shouldn't be to just blithely assume the newly manufactured males would automagically be granted full and equal civil rights...

Also would take quite some Applied Phlebotinum indeed to skip the considerations of production costs and sheer maturation times.

Anyway robotics as advanced as these androids would retain immense value and applicability as cheap, tireless, loyal and inherently disposable labour so yeah.
 

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The scene in the car provides explanation for that actually -- there's already advanced works to bring men back, and it's only a matter of (few) years. It's just something android making companies are trying to delay, because it'd obviously affect negatively their profits. So, finding a live specimen is certainly interesting opportunity, but at this stage mostly unwelcome one for the person who discovers MC's identity. Because she's one of the android makers. And no, there isn't much money in cloning men because, unlike androids men are humans with human rights and you can't produce and sell them. It's quite different from someone getting themselves their own clone.

tl;dr: it's all about the money it's all 'bout the dum dum da da dum dum
I don't think MC is killed at all in the bad ending. At least, not for the sake of getting rid of him. From my understanding, she took the opportunity to break ahead of all other research in that field. Doing so, she gets a monopoly on real men and gets to decide pretty much everything as regards to them.

Remember, MC was partly controlled by his collar. The same could be done for cloned males. Why give them rights at all? That's an amazing business opportunity for her. Very unethical but she doesn't give a damn about that. And due to copyright and her vast power, nobody else could start "making" men.

There'd be some issues like the babies but that's more mid-term and that bridge can be crossed at a later date. She's clearly not afraid to get rid of heretoforth profitable ventures if that leads to better opportunities. Damn I hate that hoe...
 

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I don't think MC is killed at all in the bad ending. At least, not for the sake of getting rid of him. From my understanding, she took the opportunity to break ahead of all other research in that field. Doing so, she gets a monopoly on real men and gets to decide pretty much everything as regards to them.

Remember, MC was partly controlled by his collar. The same could be done for cloned males. Why give them rights at all? That's an amazing business opportunity for her. Very unethical but she doesn't give a damn about that. And due to copyright and her vast power, nobody else could start "making" men.

There'd be some issues like the babies but that's more mid-term and that bridge can be crossed at a later date. She's clearly not afraid to get rid of heretoforth profitable ventures if that leads to better opportunities. Damn I hate that hoe...
Well he still died as result no? Why wouldn't she perform such experiments on his clones? Thats what is very strange and illogical for me.
 

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Well he still died as result no? Why wouldn't she perform such experiments on his clones? Thats what is very strange and illogical for me.
We know very little of what happened actually. He gets caught, is drugged, wakes up shortly as they're setting up some surgery or experiments... and that's it. Maybe he doesn't even die, but is simply restrained his whole life. Or maybe he dies once they've achieved their goals. It's purposefully left ambiguous.
 

Drenkor

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We know very little of what happened actually. He gets caught, is drugged, wakes up shortly as they're setting up some surgery or experiments... and that's it. Maybe he doesn't even die, but is simply restrained his whole life. Or maybe he dies once they've achieved their goals. It's purposefully left ambiguous.
Maybe, though the game was nice enough to briefly tell us about fates of girls, but we are left in dark about the fate of mc - (y)
 
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Oh wow! I discovered this game recently and I finished all the content it has so far: this is actually a hidden gem! The CGs and the animations are pretty good, the story is very interesting although there are some strange narrative choices, the humour is quite good as I had some chuckles here and there. The gameplay is your typical VN where you can make different choices which affects the story, I actually didn't get any major differences in the story except different H-Scenes and a Gameover, but still it's better than the majority of plain VNs. The characters are really interesting and have some depth in them that I haven't seen in many porn games. I will follow the game with more interest now!
 
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I'm wondering, in a society that has been without men for a while, would a revolutionary conspiracy theorist really wear a Che Guevara t-shirt? Would the others understand? Or even think it worth considering if they actually understood the reference? Wouldn't it make more sense for her to have, I don't know, Rosa Luxemburg on her shirt?
Laura is all about LAURA and attention so she just has funny mash up of conspiracy theories and authoritarian tropes and talking points reworked to be anti corporation. She's like a lady Stalin lite but until you gain power you have to be more charismatic to get a following. She's one of my favorite characters. The dialogue about "The Hungarians" was pretty funny and edgy. I don't think a Gloria Stehinm (sp?) or Susan B. Anthony would say "Communist revolutionary/anti corporation" as well as a Che Guevara shirt. Also probably tougher to find a suitable image of either
 

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Can't agree, thats exactly because she is android maker, and she knows that men would be resurrected anyway, thats perfect opportunity for her to clone mc and control his brain with tech like she controls her daughters. She would be the first to have real men for at least 2 years earlier than any other group. And that time would be enough of her to usurp market.
So maybe he died eventually but Cassandra got the genetic material she needed from the MC. That' pretty logical. Having him around after that is just a security risk. So don't dump on something that so many people are enjoying. You can find plot holes in everything if you want to. This one is tighter than most. (pun intended)
 
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Solak

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So maybe he died eventually but Cassandra got the genetic material she needed from the MC. That' pretty logical. Having him around after that is just a security risk. So don't dump on something that so many people are enjoying. You can find plot holes in everything if you want to. This one is tighter than most. (pun intended)
So the MC is tighter than most, eh? And would you know about that, hmm? :Kappa:
 

Drenkor

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So maybe he died eventually but Cassandra got the genetic material she needed from the MC. That' pretty logical. Having him around after that is just a security risk. So don't dump on something that so many people are enjoying. You can find plot holes in everything if you want to. This one is tighter than most. (pun intended)
Well, fair enough. Pretty boring bad end though.
 

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So men died off due to the Blue Blight...
Which is just so happens the color of the nanites they use as money...
and the woman (women?) that holds the most the world happens to have a vested interest in men remaining gone...
We also don't know just how old the hag is, since she has been body jumping for lord knows how long.
So I place 10 credits on her being behind all this shit, but then again Chronology has never been my strong suit, so i may have gotten the dates wrong.

Also a few other things on my mind, a legit spoiler for the ending of .04:
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