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Umm... the John and Anna relationship is clearly Netorare, A father trying to steal his son's girlfriend away from the son and even having sex in the hospital with said girlfriend in front of his barely unconscious son is what Netorare dreams are made of
, Zara what herbal blend have you been indulging in?How is the Jeremy/Doctor/Club Owner and Anna relationship not Netorare? Do you think they don't know about her relationship status?
Ashley literally enjoyed fucking Anna while knowing her boyfriend was watching but didn't know it was Anna, plus that scene in the restaurant with the three of them, How was that not Netorare?
I don't know if you skewing the view or possibly not tried all paths, to enjoy the game. But there is definitely a whole bunch of content that would be labelled as Netorare (stealing/corruption is key), hence all the corruption of Anna going on with certain characters. Andrew does not need to have knowledge of it or be cucked (optional in NTR) cause we as the audience by proxy get jealous or disheartened or fap, making it NTR content.
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There's nothing wrong in that to as a guy you play a female protagonist game. There are guys that play otome games for romantic stories, so don't worry. I play BL games next to otome. Female protagonist however, are mostly made by men for men so they are not my cup of tea and that's why I prefer games made by women for women because obv, it's from a female perspective(which is rare).
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Netorare always relates to the protagonist. If Anna was being cheated on, and she got jealous, or someone else she had strong feelings for, had sex with someone else and that made her jealous, then it would be netorare. But Andrew is not the protagonist, and therefore what happens to him cannot be netorare.Umm... the John and Anna relationship is clearly Netorare, A father trying to steal his son's girlfriend away from the son and even having sex in the hospital with said girlfriend in front of his barely unconscious son is what Netorare dreams are made of
How is the Jeremy/Doctor/Club Owner and Anna relationship not Netorare? Do you think they don't know about her relationship status?
Ashley literally enjoyed fucking Anna while knowing her boyfriend was watching but didn't know it was Anna, plus that scene in the restaurant with the three of them, How was that not Netorare?
I don't know if you skewing the view or possibly not tried all paths, to enjoy the game. But there is definitely a whole bunch of content that would be labelled as Netorare (stealing/corruption is key), hence all the corruption of Anna going on with certain characters. Andrew does not need to have knowledge of it or be cucked (optional in NTR) cause we as the audience by proxy get jealous or disheartened or fap, making it NTR content.
The only plausible instance of netorare in this game, is with John, because Anna is jealous of his sexual friendship with Janine. I never said it definitely wasn't netorare. Just that Anna's relationship with John isn't that strong. They're not in love with each other, so the mental anguish that typically the protagonist feels with netorare, isn't really there. In Japanese, netorare means ' to be taken away'. So really the protagonist has to believe his/ her love interest is being stolen away or at least might be. Does Anna feel that with John in this instance? And the answer is no, she's not worried about that in the slightest. The real reason for her jealousy, is that she hates not being the focus of attention. So if it is netorare, I think it's a weak version of it.
Technically, you could say several events in this game are instances of netorare ( others include Rebecca with King at the Gym, and flirting with Alfred during the gardening scene, and even Andrew flirting with Hannah at the restaurant.). But the emotional impact on Anna for all of them is so weak, that they barely cross the threshold of what truly constitutes netorare, and that's why I think it's debatable, to say it's in this game.
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Yes, you are correct but possibly missing the main point. It (Being stolen or corrupted) "happens" to the "protagonist" by an unsavoury character. The husband/boyfriend/partner/lover are mere plot variables to validate the NTR plot and create proxy emotions for the audience to feel.But to your points above, I do feel everyone is free to relate to whichever character they want in an NTR storyline
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Does Ashley come back in Chapter 2??? I miss him omg my Anna is loyal to him (only had full intercourse with him other than Andrew so far)
my Anna is loyal to him (only had full intercourse with him other than Andrew so far)Netorare is all about the protagonist, and how things happening to their love ones make him/her feel. But in this game, all the things you're talking about happen to Anna, and that isn't going to cause her to become jealous and experience the mental anguish of possibly having a loved one taken away. They are the essential elements of netorare, and if they are absent then there is no netorare. I get it, there's a lot of confusion, as to what constitutes netorare and what doesn't. But according to my understanding and the Dev's own assessment, it isn't present in the game to any appreciable degree.
But to your points above, I do feel everyone is free to relate to whichever character they want in an NTR storyline
I can assure you the Dev did not intend anyone to feel those kind of proxy emotions for Andrew. There is no intentional NTR plot in the game ( at least so far). A few years ago, I asked him that very question and he stated there was no design for NTR within the game. And when I asked whether Andrew might be cucked in the future, he said that was a possibility, but he wasn't sure that it would be the right move. He certainly seemed very wary about including it. But maybe since Awake joined the team, they've had second thoughts? It was Awake who persuaded him to include, what he dubbed the Andrew Renaissance Route ( which is now in it's early stages). It seems to me, there's a possibility that some kind of Andrew cuck route might be planned as well, as a middle way, allowing Anna and Andrew to remain together.
You have to go back to those three choices that Anna had regarding Andrew, a few updates back. The first was obviously to leave him eventually, and the third was to stay with him, probably get cured of her condition and eventually become completely faithful again. But the middle choice suggests she's going to stay with him, but carry on having fun. The only way that could work in the long term, is some kind of open relationship, which suggests she's going to tell Andrew that she's been cheating on him, and she intends to carry on doing it. So I suspect on that route there will be a further choice, one where Andrew completely rejects the idea and they split up or one where he accepts it, and he becomes a cuck. In recent updates Anna has started teasing Andrew, making 'joking' remarks about why she's dressing so provocatively, and at one point she even muses the possibility of telling Andrew. I wonder, if all these little scenes are part of setting up a cuck route? And maybe there will be more in the future?
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I think you're definitely heading for a dead end with that route. Anna is unlikely to end up with Ashley. It's debatable whether she even really likes him. She obviously likes fucking him, but she doesn't appear to have any significant feelings of fondness towards him. They have an amicable enough professional relationship and I think that's about as good as it's going to get, as far as Anna is concerned. I think Ashley is more into her though, than she's into him. He does seem to behave somewhat jealously, during her 'date' with Lenny. It's hard to say how Ashley is really feeling about anything though. Because so far, he's never been developed significantly as a character.Does Ashley come back in Chapter 2??? I miss him omg
But to answer your question. Yes, the Dev has stated there will be more sex scenes between Anna and Ashley in the future.
I agree though he is owed one soon. In a patrons poll about who should get a scene in Chapter 2, held a few years ago, he was sixth or seventh. So it seems a bit of an oversight, to not include him so far. A couple of months ago, I asked the Dev about this, and he stated that there would be a sex scene with Ashley soon. Which probably meant sometime during the next few updates.
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Anne has a boyfriend and she is cheating on him...THIS IS NTR!
That is why without Andrew this story has no sense on the sex side,,, without Andrew this story does not fit with the sense of all prequels and the CH1 (except for the idiot short novel in the OP that is senseless and wrong!!!)
without her boyfriend Anna is just a selfish whore that fucks everyone just to achieve her selfish own success
In this CH2 Anna does not care about any character, person or friend except herself!
that is why the CH1 is far better
and as you can see in the pic there is still netorare tag in the CH1
Anna Exciting Affection Chapter 1: Unofficial Ren'py Remake [v2.0] [osmcuser132]
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if it is not interesting of course I will skip , why read all nonsense text ? I wasn't doing this in the earlier versions when it was interesting mafia plot or bar scenes etc.
As I've explained before Netorare only applies to the protagonist, and them being cheated on, and experiencing feelings of jealousy and mental anguish at the prospect of losing their love interest. And in this instance, Netori doesn't apply either, because then the cheater has to be taking away someone else's love interest. That's why there is no NTR tag, just a cheating tag. There is no appreciable NTR in this game, and Anna cheating on Andrew is definitely not a part of what little there is. That is just cheating, and nothing more.
The netorare tag you refer to, is in the unofficial renpy remake which concluded several years ago. F95 have since refined their interpretation of what constitutes netorare, and that's why it doesn't appear in the tags above. But because the unofficial renpy remake is effectively abandoned, I guess they don't change the tags on those retrospectively.
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If you skip it all, how would you know it was nonsense? I've not noticed any recent dip in the quality of the text. And the criminal plot if anything has got more interesting, with Carl being revealed as a villain, Anna taking a much larger role in it, and the reveal that Sergey's gang is just a small part of a much larger Mafia organisation, which Anna will have to deal with in the future. Also, the FBI have them all under surveillance and now want Anna to infiltrate the larger Mafia organisation and discover the kingpin behind it all. I think the criminal plot so far, has only been the precursor, to a much more expanded storyline we'll get in the future.
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Wrong!
this is just your opinion and i can respect you,,, but your opinion is wrong!! there are a lot of thread where even if the protagonist is a female there is Netorare tag
NTR applies also on the protagonist boyfriend as you can see in "Special Request" "The Office Wife" "Lida's Adventures" and many many other FMC games
Andrew is her official boyfriend in all games!!!.. Andrew is NOT A SIDE character even he was at the hospital for so long it is and remain ANNA OFFICIAL BOYFRIEND!!!
EVERY ONE IN THE game knows that she has a boyfriend... she tells everyone this since the chapter 1!!!
and also on this CH2 there are at least 2 or more classic NTR scenes... that is why many complainers are hating Andrew... bcid Andrew is in the story this fact cause jealousy in the players as described in the correct definition of NTR term
This is the most classic NTR scene in all Japanese movies with plot about NTR (the girllfriend is fucked from her father-in-law when the boyfriend/husband is sleeping in the same room)
she does not care to be fuckad in the same room where is boyfriend is slipping!
Indeed she is even more excited and wet precisely because she is fucking with her father-in-law in the same room where her boyfriend is
This kind of scenes is causing jealousy in the spectators, players or readers of the scene i described in this post!
this is the real meaning of the NTR.
As you know NTR is a Japanese term so i think no one can be more right than Japanese porno Movies production.
I personally am a super fun of Kaede Kyomoto aka Kimishima Mio
, she is a super star in Japanese porn industryhere is the code of one of her movie that i really suggest you to play
Mio is a NTR specialized actress she started her carrier in 2004 and she is still in the business after 20 years!
She is always the protagonist in her movies bc is a real SUPER-BIG-STAR!!!
but back to this game
here we have another classic NTR scene
and below... there is another a 3rd classic NTR scene... that i have found... but there are many more... this game has NTR missing tag since when the tag was removed for a wrong interpretation in this site of the NTR term
the official boyfriend is watching Anna and Taxman humping as he woke up hearing Anna screaming and looked out to the balcony, but being groggy from the drugs he can't focus and can't realize that the girl is fucking downstair is the beloved girlfriend Anna, who is screaming in pleasure on the hood of Taxman's BMW and that she doesn't mind being seen by the whole neighborhood
so your opinion is wrong along with that of anyone who claims such nonsense because I along with the entire Japanese porn movie industry tell you that YOUR OPINION IS WRONG
Female protagonist movies,novels or whatver CAN BE NTR IF THE GIRL IS MARRIED OR SHE HAS AN OFFICIAL BOYFRIEND!
The scene in this game are NTR because there is her official boyfriend Andrew with her...
and even if there was a path where her boyfriend died...the "netorare" tag should be put...because if there is even a single NTR scene in the whole game the tag should be put prominently in the OP!
you can continue to say that I'm wrong... but this does not change the fact that this game comes with NTR scenes since the CH1 and in all the short novels!!!
telling a man who tries to fuck you;“ I'm engaged” or “I'm married” or “I have a boyfriend” if she then gets fucked THAT BECOMES NTR!!!
NTR IS CUCKOLD.. if she is engaged and fucks with other men is NTR!
Have fun!
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Agree, except Zara not "wrong" but is mistaken due to relating to the plot from a different viewpoint.Wrong!
this is just your opinion and i can respect you,,, but your opinion is wrong!! there are a lot of thread where even if the protagonist is a female there is Netorare tag
NTR applies also on the protagonist boyfriend as you can see in "Special Request" "The Office Wife" and many many other FMC games
Andrew is her official boyfriend in all games!!!.. Andrew is NOT A SIDE character even he was at the hospital for so long it is and remain ANNA OFFICIAL BOYFRIEND!!!
EVERY ONE IN THE game knows that she has a boyfriend... she tells everyone this since the chapter 1!!!
and also on this CH2 there are at least 2 classic NTR scenes
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This is the most classic NTR scene in all Japanese movies with plot about NTR (the girllfriend is fucked from her father in law when the boyfriend is sleeping in the same room)
she does not care to be fuckad in the same room where is boyfriend is slipping!
As you know NTR is ajapanese therm so i think no one cam be more right than Japanese porno Movies production.
I personally am a super fun of Kamishima Mio
here is the code of one of her movie that i really suggest you to play
Mio is a NTR specialist actress she started her carrier in 2004 and she is still in the business after 20 years!
She is always the protagonist in her movies bc is a real SUPER-BIG-STAR!!!
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but back to this game
here we have onather classic NTR scene
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and this is also a classic NTR scene
the official boyfriend is watching Anna and Taxman humping as he woke up hearing Anna screaming and looked out to the balcony, but being groggy from the drugs he can't focus and can't realize that that is his beloved girlfriend Anna, who is screaming in pleasure on the hood of Taxman's BMW and that she doesn't mind being seen by the whole neighborhood
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so your opinion is wrong along with that of anyone who claims such nonsense because I along with the entire Japanese porn movie industry tell you that YOUR OPINION IS WRONG
The scene in this game are NTR because there is her official boyfriend Andrew with her...
and even if there was a path where her boyfriend died...the "netorare" tag should be put...because if there is even a single NTR scene in the whole game the tag should be put prominently in the OP!
you can continue to say that I'm wrong... but this does not change the fact that this game comes with NTR scenes sinche the CH1 and in all the short novels!!!
Have fun!