VN Ren'Py Anna Exciting Affection [Ch.2 Ep.17] [DeepSleep]

[88stanford88]

Agree, except Zara not "wrong" but is mistaken due to relating to the plot from a different viewpoint.

you want defend Zara! i undestand... I also love her!.. Zara is not wrong.. but her opinion about FMC and NTR is wrong I respect her... but her opinion about why this game is not NTR is wrong!
with any point of view if Anna is engaged as she is with Andrew,,, this is NTR... and maybe in the future if Andrew find out and start to jerk off when spying on her this will be also NTRS if that happens

I already said that
the tag rules are.... that when there is only one scene in a single path... where gay, groupsex, lesbian,... and so on UP to NTR,,, that tag must be in the OP!

Female protagonist and NTR is normal if the girl is oficially engaged

in Special request the husband was not there for weeks... but ONLY THE FACT THAT SHE IS SAIYNG... "I'm married or I'm engaged" this means the NTR tag must be in the OP!

NTR is not a fetish "pleasure" or "drama" ONLY FOR MEN!!!
also women have the same FETISH pleasure (women do not have drama in most of cases they get only pleasure to humiliate their husband) to have sex with another man and just thinking about the husband women are getting their pussy more wet just for this NTR fetish"

 

[shamtiiomi]

i do not think of ntr when it comes to this vn ,and this is why.....anna is a heart slut,and thats itnothing bad with that,we need this kind of women exmaples to understand why we should leve them alone in the streets,where they belong,ofc she is a beauty ,

 

[Maviarab]

Wrong!
this is just your opinion and i can respect you,,, but your opinion is wrong!! there are a lot of thread where even if the protagonist is a female there is Netorare tag
NTR applies also on the protagonist boyfriend as you can see in "Special Request" "The Office Wife" "Lida's Adventures" and many many other FMC games

Andrew is her official boyfriend in all games!!!.. Andrew is NOT A SIDE character even he was at the hospital for so long it is and remain ANNA OFFICIAL BOYFRIEND!!!
EVERY ONE IN THE game knows that she has a boyfriend... she tells everyone this since the chapter 1!!!

and also on this CH2 there are at least 2 classic NTR scenes
View attachment 3697345
This is the most classic NTR scene in all Japanese movies with plot about NTR (the girllfriend is fucked from her father in law when the boyfriend is sleeping in the same room)
she does not care to be fuckad in the same room where is boyfriend is slipping!

As you know NTR is a Japanese therm so i think no one can be more right than Japanese porno Movies production.
I personally am a super fun of Kamishima Mio , she is a super star in Japanese porn industry

here is the code of one of her movie that i really suggest you to play
Mio is a NTR specialized actress she started her carrier in 2004 and she is still in the business after 20 years!
She is always the protagonist in her movies bc is a real SUPER-BIG-STAR!!!
View attachment 3697419

but back to this game

here we have another classic NTR scene

View attachment 3697448

and this is also a classic NTR scene
the official boyfriend is watching Anna and Taxman humping as he woke up hearing Anna screaming and looked out to the balcony, but being groggy from the drugs he can't focus and can't realize that the girl is fucking downstair is his beloved girlfriend Anna, who is screaming in pleasure on the hood of Taxman's BMW and that she doesn't mind being seen by the whole neighborhood
View attachment 3697480

so your opinion is wrong along with that of anyone who claims such nonsense because I along with the entire Japanese porn movie industry tell you that YOUR OPINION IS WRONG
Female protagonist movies,novels or whatver CAN BE NTR IF THE GIRL IS MARRIED OR SHE HAS AN OFFICIAL BOYFRIEND!

The scene in this game are NTR because there is her official boyfriend Andrew with her...

and even if there was a path where her boyfriend died...the "netorare" tag should be put...because if there is even a single NTR scene in the whole game the tag should be put prominently in the OP!

you can continue to say that I'm wrong... but this does not change the fact that this game comes with NTR scenes sinche the CH1 and in all the short novels!!!

telling a man who tries to fuck you;“ I'm engaged” or “I'm married” or “I have a boyfriend” if she then gets fucked THAT BECOMES NTR!!!

Have fun!

you want defend Zara! i undestand... I also love her!.. Zara is not wrong.. but her opinion about FMC and NTR is wrong I respect her... but her opinion about why this game is not NTR is wrong!
I already said that
the tag rules are.... that when there is only one scene in a single path... where gay, groupsex, lesbian,... and so on UP to NTR,,, that tag must be in the OP!

Female protagonist and NTR is normal if the girl is oficially engaged

in Special request the husband was not there for weeks... but ONLY THE FACT THAT SHE IS SAIYNG... "I'm married or I'm engaged" this means the NTR tag must be in the OP!

NTR is not a fetish "pleasure" or "drama" ONLY FOR MEN!!!
also women have the same FETISH pleasure (women do not have drama in most of cases they get only pleasure to humiliate their husband) to have sex with another man and just thinking about the husband women are getting their pussy more wet just for this NTR fetish"

 

[88stanford88]

she has an official boyfriend since the school days in all prequels CH1, SHORT NOVELS and CH2 the same boyfriend .. that is a cuckold
Cuckolding is the base of any NTR story... she is of course a slut with an official boyfriend! = NTR

 

[SlackerBear]

Netorare / Netori (寝取られ), also referred to as NTR or cuckold, is a genre where the intent is to cause an emotion of deep jealousy or distress in the reader. A direct translation of the word results in the definition "having your lover taken from you" or "to have something taken from you while you sleep". This is often accomplished by having main protagonist's loved one seduced away from them, with or without their knowledge.

 

[88stanford88]

Netorare / Netori (寝取られ), also referred to as NTR or cuckold, is a genre where the intent is to cause an emotion of deep jealousy or distress in the reader. A direct translation of the word results in the definition "having your lover taken from you" or "to have something taken from you while you sleep". This is often accomplished by having main protagonist's loved one seduced away from them, with or without their knowledge.

I agree with you
Andrew is jelaous and she want cause jealousy!!! She gets a lot of wet pleasure doing this
and the scenes i described can cause jealousy in the players that are playing this game! as perfectlydescribed in your great post

I really suggest you to play this movie

NTR is also IF the husband totally ignore that his wife loves to have pleasure with other men

IF SHE IS ENGAGED and fucks on husband back is NTR and also with her husband consent.. IS NTR!

the problem is that NTR is a Japanese therm and the interpretation of that word in the western politically correct world and from WOKE ideology
is just wrong and was recently changed as many politically correct therms...

believe me
if the husbamd does not knows that she is fucking with others is NTR!!!!

NTR can be also on female perspective!
Sluts have a lot of pleasure hiding to their hubby that they are fucking everyone!.. this is also NTR
this is common in women that want to have some secrets for themself... and this can be very exciting for women in some case

 

[SlackerBear]

Andrew is jelaous and she want cause jelaousy!!! She gets a lot of wer pleasure doing this

I really suggest you to play this movie View attachment 3697770

NTR is also IF the husband totally ignore that his wife loves to have pleasure with other men

IF SHE IS ENGAGED and fucks on husband back is NTR and also with her husband consent.. IS NTR!

the problem is that NTR is a Japanese therm and the interpretation of that word in the western politically correct world and from WOKE ideology
is just wrong and was recently changed as many politically correct therms...

believe me
if the husbamd does not knows that she is fucking with others is NTR!!!!

NTR can be also on female perspective!
Sluts have a lot of pleasure hiding to their hubby that they are fucking everyone!.. this is NTR

I believe you about NTR & NTS(NTRS).
Thanks for suggest Kaede Kyomoto's Movies .

 

[88stanford88]

I believe you about NTR & NTS(NTRS).
Thanks for suggest Kaede Kyomoto's Movies .

Kaede Kyomoto aka Mio Kimishima or Kimijima
She is stunning... she is Amazing ... she is WOW super sexy and exciting...

her body is... she moves too well and takes indecent poses with a naturalness with her slender long legs that makes you cum just looking at her....

oh GOD i love her

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Wrong!
this is just your opinion and i can respect you,,, but your opinion is wrong!! there are a lot of thread where even if the protagonist is a female there is Netorare tag
NTR applies also on the protagonist boyfriend as you can see in "Special Request" "The Office Wife" "Lida's Adventures" and many many other FMC games

Andrew is her official boyfriend in all games!!!.. Andrew is NOT A SIDE character even he was at the hospital for so long it is and remain ANNA OFFICIAL BOYFRIEND!!!
EVERY ONE IN THE game knows that she has a boyfriend... she tells everyone this since the chapter 1!!!

and also on this CH2 there are at least 2 classic NTR scenes
View attachment 3697345
This is the most classic NTR scene in all Japanese movies with plot about NTR (the girllfriend is fucked from her father in law when the boyfriend is sleeping in the same room)
she does not care to be fuckad in the same room where is boyfriend is slipping!
Indeed she is even more excited and wet precisely because she is fucking with her father-in-law in the same room where her boyfriend is

As you know NTR is a Japanese therm so i think no one can be more right than Japanese porno Movies production.
I personally am a super fun of Kaede Kyomoto aka Kimishima Mio , she is a super star in Japanese porn industry

here is the code of one of her movie that i really suggest you to play
Mio is a NTR specialized actress she started her carrier in 2004 and she is still in the business after 20 years!
She is always the protagonist in her movies bc is a real SUPER-BIG-STAR!!!
View attachment 3697419

but back to this game

here we have another classic NTR scene

View attachment 3697448

and this is also a classic NTR scene
the official boyfriend is watching Anna and Taxman humping as he woke up hearing Anna screaming and looked out to the balcony, but being groggy from the drugs he can't focus and can't realize that the girl is fucking downstair is the beloved girlfriend Anna, who is screaming in pleasure on the hood of Taxman's BMW and that she doesn't mind being seen by the whole neighborhood
View attachment 3697480

so your opinion is wrong along with that of anyone who claims such nonsense because I along with the entire Japanese porn movie industry tell you that YOUR OPINION IS WRONG
Female protagonist movies,novels or whatver CAN BE NTR IF THE GIRL IS MARRIED OR SHE HAS AN OFFICIAL BOYFRIEND!

The scene in this game are NTR because there is her official boyfriend Andrew with her...

and even if there was a path where her boyfriend died...the "netorare" tag should be put...because if there is even a single NTR scene in the whole game the tag should be put prominently in the OP!

you can continue to say that I'm wrong... but this does not change the fact that this game comes with NTR scenes since the CH1 and in all the short novels!!!

telling a man who tries to fuck you;“ I'm engaged” or “I'm married” or “I have a boyfriend” if she then gets fucked THAT BECOMES NTR!!!

NTR IS CUCKOLD.. if she is engaged and fucks with other men is NTR!

Have fun!

Anyone can put netorare in the tags, it doesn't mean they're correct. A lot of Devs make errors in their games, so why should this be any different? Instead of spouting the same old crap, you should look up what netorare actually is, and I can assure you it relates only to the protagonist. It's got nothing to do with her being a female protagonist, it's to do with her not being the victim of the cheating, because she's the cheater.

Of the three games you mentioned. The Office Wife definitely is NTR, because the husband is keen to share his wife, and thus it's netorase ( usually games with netorase are given the netorare tag, because there is no netorase tag). Special Request and Lida's Adventures are just cheating games like this one, and the netorare tag is misleading.

A lot of people mistakenly believe that if someone is cucked in a game, then it's automatically evidence of NTR. But that is not correct. NTR specifically relates to the protagonist. As far as netorare is concerned, the protagonist have to be cucked themselves for it to apply, or at least they have to believe that it's happening, and they subsequently may lose their object of affection.

That isn't my opinion, it's a fact. I suggest you look it up.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I believe you about NTR & NTS(NTRS).
Thanks for suggest Kaede Kyomoto's Movies .

But above you said:

This is often accomplished by having main protagonist's loved one seduced away from them, with or without their knowledge.

If that is what you believe NTR is, then it contradicts everything that Stanford is claiming about this game. Because Stanford is claiming it doesn't need to be the protagonist at all. That if anybody in the game is cucked, then it's automatically netorare.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Agree, except Zara not "wrong" but is mistaken due to relating to the plot from a different viewpoint.

It's got nothing to do with a different viewpoint. You are mistaken in believing that netorare, in fact any version of NTR, does not solely relate to the protagonist. In the case of netorare, the protagonist has to be the victim of it. And it can't be any other way.

Regardless of who is right or wrong. I suggest we put this discussion to bed, before someone does it for us.

 

[88stanford88]

Anyone can put netorare in the tags, it doesn't mean they're correct. A lot of Devs make errors in their games, so why should this be any different? Instead of spouting the same old crap, you should look up what netorare actually is, and I can assure you it relates only to the protagonist. It's got nothing to do with her being a female protagonist, it's to do with her not being the victim of the cheating, because she's the cheater.

Of the three games you mentioned. The Office Wife definitely is NTR, because the husband is keen to share his wife, and thus it's netorase ( usually games with netorase are given the netorare tag, because there is no netorase tag). Special Request and Lida's Adventures are just cheating games like this one, and the netorare tag is misleading.

A lot of people mistakenly believe that if someone is cucked in a game, then it's automatically evidence of NTR. But that is not correct. NTR specifically relates to the protagonist. As far as netorare is concerned, the protagonist have to be cucked themselves for it to apply, or at least they have to believe that it's happening, and they subsequently may lose their object of affection.

That isn't my opinion, it's a fact. I suggest you look it up.

The protagonist is engaged with Andrew he knows that she is her girlfriend ... even if there is a different path ... in my path he is her boyfriend... so NTR TAG MUST BE IN THE OP
Why you repeating to me the same senseless ?
She is an engaged protagonist and when she fucks other men THIS IS NTR!
you are repating ... but you are wrong ... this story is NTR

it is a pity that there is not ntr tag because I have found this game searching for ntr games... so there are a lot of potential fan that will never find this game

I also don't care about the missing tag but this can delay ntr fans to find this game

 

[88stanford88]

Anyone can put netorare in the tags, it doesn't mean they're correct. A lot of Devs make errors in their games, so why should this be any different? Instead of spouting the same old crap, you should look up what netorare actually is, and I can assure you it relates only to the protagonist. It's got nothing to do with her being a female protagonist, it's to do with her not being the victim of the cheating, because she's the cheater.

Of the three games you mentioned. The Office Wife definitely is NTR, because the husband is keen to share his wife, and thus it's netorase ( usually games with netorase are given the netorare tag, because there is no netorase tag). Special Request and Lida's Adventures are just cheating games like this one, and the netorare tag is misleading.

A lot of people mistakenly believe that if someone is cucked in a game, then it's automatically evidence of NTR. But that is not correct. NTR specifically relates to the protagonist. As far as netorare is concerned, the protagonist have to be cucked themselves for it to apply, or at least they have to believe that it's happening, and they subsequently may lose their object of affection.

That isn't my opinion, it's a fact. I suggest you look it up.

the real fact it is that you do not know... I already explain you the fact that Japanese porno industry caòòs NTR when a woman that is the prrotagonist of the story is married or engaged and start to fuck one pr mpre men and the back of the husband... this is NTR and SlackerBear described in a perfect way in her/his post
You are talking about netorase when the husband knows
Netorase is "the office wife"
Lida's adventure is netorare = cuckold.... her husband does not know that she is fucking with other men for save him
When a woman is engaged end fucks other man is ALWAYS NTR ....

you are confused... check the movie of Mio Kimijima a suggest you to play.... it is a NTR gstory written by great Lapanese author and they knows very well what is NTR

her husband is not at home and doesn't know that she is NTRing him.... but it is a great Japanese NTR MOVIE one of the best one in my opinion
There is also a scene we here she received a call from her husband xctly the same as Laura in the Special Request received a call from her husband during a DP at Gumar shop

even if the husband doesn't knowher wife is fucking someone else it is NTR

CHEATING doesn't exist as tag in the Japanese game movies ... CHEATING IS SAME AS NTR or it is only for male MC with a faithful wife.... but if the wife is cheating IS ALWAYS NTR

 

[pleaseletme]

Wrong!
this is just your opinion and i can respect you,,, but your opinion is wrong!! there are a lot of thread where even if the protagonist is a female there is Netorare tag
NTR applies also on the protagonist boyfriend as you can see in "Special Request" "The Office Wife" "Lida's Adventures" and many many other FMC games

Andrew is her official boyfriend in all games!!!.. Andrew is NOT A SIDE character even he was at the hospital for so long it is and remain ANNA OFFICIAL BOYFRIEND!!!
EVERY ONE IN THE game knows that she has a boyfriend... she tells everyone this since the chapter 1!!!

and also on this CH2 there are at least 2 classic NTR scenes
View attachment 3697345
This is the most classic NTR scene in all Japanese movies with plot about NTR (the girllfriend is fucked from her father in law when the boyfriend is sleeping in the same room)
she does not care to be fuckad in the same room where is boyfriend is slipping!
Indeed she is even more excited and wet precisely because she is fucking with her father-in-law in the same room where her boyfriend is

As you know NTR is a Japanese therm so i think no one can be more right than Japanese porno Movies production.
I personally am a super fun of Kaede Kyomoto aka Kimishima Mio , she is a super star in Japanese porn industry

here is the code of one of her movie that i really suggest you to play
Mio is a NTR specialized actress she started her carrier in 2004 and she is still in the business after 20 years!
She is always the protagonist in her movies bc is a real SUPER-BIG-STAR!!!
View attachment 3697419

but back to this game

here we have another classic NTR scene

View attachment 3697448

and this is also a classic NTR scene
the official boyfriend is watching Anna and Taxman humping as he woke up hearing Anna screaming and looked out to the balcony, but being groggy from the drugs he can't focus and can't realize that the girl is fucking downstair is the beloved girlfriend Anna, who is screaming in pleasure on the hood of Taxman's BMW and that she doesn't mind being seen by the whole neighborhood
View attachment 3697480

so your opinion is wrong along with that of anyone who claims such nonsense because I along with the entire Japanese porn movie industry tell you that YOUR OPINION IS WRONG
Female protagonist movies,novels or whatver CAN BE NTR IF THE GIRL IS MARRIED OR SHE HAS AN OFFICIAL BOYFRIEND!

The scene in this game are NTR because there is her official boyfriend Andrew with her...

and even if there was a path where her boyfriend died...the "netorare" tag should be put...because if there is even a single NTR scene in the whole game the tag should be put prominently in the OP!

you can continue to say that I'm wrong... but this does not change the fact that this game comes with NTR scenes since the CH1 and in all the short novels!!!

telling a man who tries to fuck you;“ I'm engaged” or “I'm married” or “I have a boyfriend” if she then gets fucked THAT BECOMES NTR!!!

NTR IS CUCKOLD.. if she is engaged and fucks with other men is NTR!

Have fun!

Can you recommend any scenes of the Japanese pornstar you mentioned?

 

[88stanford88]

Can you recommend any scenes of the Japanese pornstar you mentioned?

this is Off topic
I already recommended you the code and the actress you can search with google or other searching engines... you will find that movie i already suggested!
it is a full movie of about 2 hours duration with an interesting plot not a single scene

so I will respond to you in a new OFF TOPIC THREAD that i started today just for debate about the use of NTR and NTRS made in the JAV porn industry

I think that porn game developers should learn more about Japanese porn cinematography, and I believe that many devs already find inspiration from porn films produced in Japan... because there are a lot of scenes not only in Anna Exciting Affection that remind me of some of these JAV movies

you can also PM me...
but my full replay to your question is in the post llnked

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-term...e-japanese-porn-industry.210730/post-13912753

I invite everyone interested in this topic to join to the off topic discussion i have created
We can talk about NTR and Japanese Adult Movies!

Cheers

 

[ambitious1234]

VN version???

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

VN version???

 

[xslayermkdx]

Android Out For Chapter 2 Episode 16?

 

[Lockyn87]

Do you think that the dev may put any pee content always in the toilet but never get to see, or any sexual scenes with the sister. The teasing between them is driving me crazy.

 

[88stanford88]

here is my official request for the VN version
https://f95zone.to/threads/vn-version-of-anna-exciting-affection-ch-2-ep-16-deepsleep.210612/

please help this request to stay active and add +1