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Agreed, thing is I love all the different paths/dialogs that you can do! Why when the next update comes out you have to play a minimum of 4 paths to get to see it all properly just based on the 1-4 dom levels/paths... Let alone the confidence level on top of that.... Which I saved ech possible path to get with into it for next update lol...MC is clearly being manipulated to accept Steph to cheat but it won't be called that. Remember if MC has the confidence to stand up for himself in this game he will get penalised as having low confidence or even game over. Tori makes it clear the couple won't be playing together much and that she intends to push Steph in to sex scenarios and occasionally MC will get some. We are at opposite ends of the kink spectrum I think. I find the whole manipulation/humiliation thing repulsive.
ok but how where do u see stats???
i've played the high confidence route so far so nice foursome scene twice. the talk with tori was interesting. i didn't/don't understand why Tori only pulled the mc to talk to him. in my game, nothing happened but it was odd. what you said essentially is true...they're conditioning the mc to get ready for this and none of that makes sense. the original request from jason was to ask him to join them in a threesome. how did it get to...oh, my husband wants to be a bull for you guys and understand that steph is likely a giant slut.MC is clearly being manipulated to accept Steph to cheat but it won't be called that. Remember if MC has the confidence to stand up for himself in this game he will get penalised as having low confidence or even game over. Tori makes it clear the couple won't be playing together much and that she intends to push Steph in to sex scenarios and occasionally MC will get some. We are at opposite ends of the kink spectrum I think. I find the whole manipulation/humiliation thing repulsive.
the reason Tori got MC away was so Steph could cheat on the lower dom1 paths. Less work if they use the same renders for all the dom1 paths.i've played the high confidence route so far so nice foursome scene twice. the talk with tori was interesting. i didn't/don't understand why Tori only pulled the mc to talk to him. in my game, nothing happened but it was odd. what you said essentially is true...they're conditioning the mc to get ready for this and none of that makes sense. the original request from jason was to ask him to join them in a threesome. how did it get to...oh, my husband wants to be a bull for you guys and understand that steph is likely a giant slut.
you can be together and opt to experience things together. that storyline does seem to be the least expanded.
Get Universal Ren'Py Mod and put it in the GAME folder, how I got it....ok but how where do u see stats???
from what point do you think, jason behaves well, when he proposes to MC, he deceives him by saying only what he knows is of interest, he omits the rest, and it turns out in the end, even inviting Sthep proves his plan, like the falsehood she says, about tori and that Jason does it to rest, all lies, and coincidentally at the end, Tori plays mysterious, all to get Sthep turned on, make MC think they're going to fuck, but getting him upstairs to talk, Tori he does nothing but try to make MC capitulate to accept that Sthep becomes a bitch, it's at the moment that he accepts, by magic, Jason and Sthep feel having fun, game, sneaky, it's too piloted, easily readable as a plot.I like the release. It has it's entertainment. The conversations pose many future events the couple can explore together or separate. I am not convinced yet the Jason and Tori are evil.... taking advantage of Steph. We have not seen all the paths yet. Plus... these do no seem to be complete. jason did not nut yet I don't think.
Not sure I have seen all that is has. Can't tell. What were the old Gina scene that were redone. Plus the others. I only got 2 of the sexpaths at Tori and Jason's... I think.
what is the point of trust, if the game is controlled, then what nonsense there is, in demonstrating trust, when in any case, Sthep already starts cheating in the game, the lunch receipt hidden, going to bed domy without waiting for MC, the phone call, which clearly assumes that Sthep has made an agreement with Tori, the real director, and then coincidentally, it is always Sthep who dominates the answers or actions, except, when she is fucked by Dommy, like that repulsive scene playing sorry , after having fucked dommy, after the phone call, who immediately revives and calls gina to deceive Mc, in order to give him the smoke of parity, in the meantime, however, Paoul has already made sure too, and gina herself, what a game of shiti've played the high confidence route so far so nice foursome scene twice. the talk with tori was interesting. i didn't/don't understand why Tori only pulled the mc to talk to him. in my game, nothing happened but it was odd. what you said essentially is true...they're conditioning the mc to get ready for this and none of that makes sense. the original request from jason was to ask him to join them in a threesome. how did it get to...oh, my husband wants to be a bull for you guys and understand that steph is likely a giant slut.
you can be together and opt to experience things together. that storyline does seem to be the least expanded.
yeah my blind play is also high confidence or high dom or whatever, i don't know it's blind play but yeah the content is cut before anything happen.I played the game keeping my confidence high and being honest with my wife. I got an awesome foursome scene with my wife, Gina and Donny, on the first night out, and then another awesome threesome with my wife and Gina on the second night. On the third night we went to Jason's and the game ended after the girls showed off in lingerie. I am dying to see more, but all I read here is hate for content I never saw. So I gather if you play with low confidence and are a dick to your wife, she will cuck you, and there is more content at Jason's only if you are a cuck? Can someone confirm?
I don't really care that there is a cuck route - I may even try it if I get in the mood to see a hot slut act like a nymphomaniac bitch, but today I was in the mood to see a hot slut get really into group sex, and the game delivered. Play it with high confidence and as a cool guy, and you should be happy with the MFF stuff. It's hot.
You and me both, brother. And these last few pages (well, since the release) is why I don't get sucked into these flights of fancy (that and I simply don't have the time). Not trying to be harsh or argumentative, but as often happens in these cases, folks work themselves into a corner from which there is no easy escape. This is going to happen or that is going to happen and before you know it all the surprise and the unknown has been let out of the balloon. There's almost no way a story can live up to these kinds of expectations, so it's the woe scenario.Sorry for the fucking novel. I took the day off from the thread and came back to pages of really good posts with a lot of constructive comments. While I completely see and understand why there are people upset, there are many things being said I don't agree with.
Your approach and post are completely valid and I play many VNs that way myself. Its my preferred way.yeah my blind play is also high confidence or high dom or whatever, i don't know it's blind play but yeah the content is cut before anything happen.
I think we'll get actual foursome or sharing content so i'm good
I was critical of the shadow corp talk in my review that I released after the first version came out. I don't usually write a review so early but was very excited to see a new take on the swinging couple.You and me both, brother. And these last few pages (well, since the release) is why I don't get sucked into these flights of fancy (that and I simply don't have the time). Not trying to be harsh or argumentative, but as often happens in these cases, folks work themselves into a corner from which there is no easy escape. This is going to happen or that is going to happen and before you know it all the surprise and the unknown has been let out of the balloon. There's almost no way a story can live up to these kinds of expectations, so it's the woe scenario.
Looking at what's said in the game and the code, there are, as best as I can tell, three more reasonably predictable routes this game can take (unless the devs drive off a cliff somewhere). The route they chose to take for the present didn't satisfy some of you, but others may have been ok with it. The next time it will be another group that gets hit for good or bad. It's just the way it works in a multi-route game. And, by definition, that's why we have multi-route games. Draw more peeps in.
I just don't see how one can pass judgment on this game this early. No one that I've seen has even talked about the business side of things. The weird shadow corps that have been discovered and how will that affect the fellow's friendships. Is one being set up? Will they work together? Who knows... I need to stop it now, I am breaking my own rule.
You make valid points and there are plenty of games I am waiting on I don't comment on.You and me both, brother. And these last few pages (well, since the release) is why I don't get sucked into these flights of fancy (that and I simply don't have the time). Not trying to be harsh or argumentative, but as often happens in these cases, folks work themselves into a corner from which there is no easy escape. This is going to happen or that is going to happen and before you know it all the surprise and the unknown has been let out of the balloon. There's almost no way a story can live up to these kinds of expectations, so it's the woe scenario.
Looking at what's said in the game and the code, there are, as best as I can tell, three more reasonably predictable routes this game can take (unless the devs drive off a cliff somewhere). The route they chose to take for the present didn't satisfy some of you, but others may have been ok with it. The next time it will be another group that gets hit for good or bad. It's just the way it works in a multi-route game. And, by definition, that's why we have multi-route games. Draw more peeps in.
I just don't see how one can pass judgment on this game this early. No one that I've seen has even talked about the business side of things. The weird shadow corps that have been discovered and how will that affect the fellow's friendships. Is one being set up? Will they work together? Who knows... I need to stop it now, I am breaking my own rule.
Always the optimist and I do like that about you. You often provide balance and your post is that.I was critical of the shadow corp talk in my review that I released after the first version came out. I don't usually write a review so early but was very excited to see a new take on the swinging couple.
It is obviously going to play some kind of role considering that it was in the first scene, and now they bring it back in two more scenes. They specifically interrupt the big Tori & Jason scene to talk about the shadow corp. So something deeper is going on. I just have no idea what, yet.
I am often a culprit for jumping to conclusions. I try to be pragmatic and keep a level head. Sometimes, emotions get the best of me. But in this game, it just seems like we are still in the introduction. Too early to make big sweeping decisions about how it is going.
We just met Tori and Jason. Tori has just let us know that she respects the MC and Steph and wants to include them in future playtime. For the non-swingers that are following along, this is a very wise and typical move of experienced swingers. Invite the couple (or a single) over and get to know them better before choosing to play. I would have opened the invitation with, "Nothing is going to happen on the first night." However, for the sake of dramatic storytelling, there were obvious reasons the author did not include that piece.
I enjoy the speculation. I just have to remember that it is only speculation. I have hopes for the way a story will go. Fears I want to try to avoid. I want to hear what the author has to tell us. I want to hear his story. And we are just getting started!
Your approach and post are completely valid and I play many VNs that way myself. Its my preferred way.
For those of us who paid for it, and I think I can speak on their behalf, seek to play all the routes and paths and explore the content we paid for. Promises were made by the devs, they weren't delivered. To find they have included cheating is a great disappointment to me because it wasn't on the radar at all in the tags, the description of the game, or their posts and since I had one on one at length contact with them, I feel particularly betrayed.
Someone else had mentioned the title and how deceptive it was. Add in the first conversation with Jason, he specifically makes the point of saying Tori has a huge appetite and that he would likely join in for the first round and then go sleep downstairs. But then we see the pool teaser image, and now the scene where Jason dominates Steph and Tori tells the MC what is really going on. I think your anger and concern are founded on solid evidence. These pieces are direct contradictions to what we believed, and more importantly, what we see in the high-confidence playthrough. But that is why I have hope. I think those things are in direct contradiction to show the opposing side. The dangers of not being bold and confident. Of not following blindly instead of leading.You make valid points and there are plenty of games I am waiting on I don't comment on.
This one was different because it was portrayed as different. The devs said it would be different. The tags, descriptions, the dev posts, none of them mentioned paths where Steph becomes a cheating BBC whore in them. I know people will say we cant know the BBC part but considering the scene with Jason and the only promo photo not in the game on Steam is Stehp about to ride another BBC I think there is validity to my assumption. Add to that, especially for me, was the one on one contact with the devs about Steph and I came away thinking we were on the same page, not one hint Steph would cheat or go BBC in any path. They said they would make Steph better not worse. So I am particular pissed.
The "verified donor" tag is for those who donate to F95. The "supporting" section shows games that the person supports on Patreon if they link the accounts. However, that link is broken right now. Many of us have purchased the game from the developers on Steam. That is the only way to support them at the moment.So you paid for it? You didn't get the pirated copy for free here, on the pirate site you frequent? The way you stated that you can speak on their behalf leaves some doubt as to whether the feelings of betrayal you have attributed to paying for something you didn't get are fully valid. After all, you don't have a verified donor tag. I don't mean to make a personal attack, I am just devoted to truth, and so I am asking for clarification there. Maybe I seem like a fanboy, but actually, I am just a guy who loves playing games with slutty women, and I am a game developer who has read a lot of criticism from people on this site who suffer cognitive dissonance - they don't pay, and to justify not paying, they hate what they play. Are you that guy?
Because at this point, if you seek to play all the routes, then you got a lot of content didn't you? If you play all the routes of a game like this, then the cuckold route IS content you play.
I don't mean to make an enemy out of you, honestly. I just joined today to advocate for more cumshots in this game, but I feel the need to defend the developers, and I guess my time here will be short lived and I'll be banned by tomorrow. But yeah... I think you are being unfair in your criticism, and you could impact their productivity in doing so. I've abandoned a game because I read hate stuff on this site. I don't want these devs to abandon this, so I'm standing up for them. It's nothing personal.
I had a conversation with the writer of the game. I came away from that very excited for this game and I felt we were all on the same page. To support the dev, as I was impressed with their vision, I bought the Steam version of the game. It wasn't even $10 so no big deal. I have paid a lot more for other shitty games on Steam I no longer wanted to play. I don't care about that.So you paid for it? You didn't get the pirated copy for free here, on the pirate site you frequent? The way you stated that you can speak on their behalf leaves some doubt as to whether the feelings of betrayal you have attributed to paying for something you didn't get are fully valid. After all, you don't have a verified donor tag. I don't mean to make a personal attack, I am just devoted to truth, and so I am asking for clarification there. Maybe I seem like a fanboy, but actually, I am just a guy who loves playing games with slutty women, and I am a game developer who has read a lot of criticism from people on this site who suffer cognitive dissonance - they don't pay, and to justify not paying, they hate what they play. Are you that guy?
Because at this point, if you seek to play all the routes, then you got a lot of content didn't you? If you play all the routes of a game like this, then the cuckold route IS content you play.
I don't mean to make an enemy out of you, honestly. I just joined today to advocate for more cumshots in this game, but I feel the need to defend the developers, and I guess my time here will be short lived and I'll be banned by tomorrow. But yeah... I think you are being unfair in your criticism, and you could impact their productivity in doing so. I've abandoned a game because I read hate stuff on this site. I don't want these devs to abandon this, so I'm standing up for them. It's nothing personal.
wow, thanks for the clarification and for not slapping me down, I appreciate it. Glad to be here (I've been lurking forever, but decided today that I wanted to get involved in discussions, and as you can tell by my avalanche of posts, I've got a lot to say that I guess I've been holding backThe "verified donor" tag is for those who donate to F95. The "supporting" section shows games that the person supports on Patreon if they link the accounts. However, that link is broken right now. Many of us have purchased the game from the developers on Steam. That is the only way to support them at the moment.
I did see that you like to advocate for cum shots in every game! LOL Advocating is great! Demanding is another. You will see there are a lot of people on F95 that demand and threaten. This just isn't the place for that. Although, we know the developers of this game are lurking on this thread, not all developers care to hear what a bunch of pirates have to say about anything!
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