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I prefer to keep my affiliation a secret - I just want to be anonymous here.
It wasn't just the trolls (and I'm not referring to Grumpy Old Aussie - I like that guy already, and we had a good discussion about the pros and cons of the new release of this game), it was the combination of the game not making enough money to compensate me for the time and effort, and the trolls. I put a ton of hours into the game, the patreonage got to a level that could support one person if they lived in a country where money goes far, but we were two people and it was not enough to keep spending time on when I needed to support my family. I felt like the trolls contributed to the poor economic performance of the game, because they were critical of every little thing and that attitude - that nothing is good enough to pay for - meant I was unlikely to ever get to the income I needed to keep going. It's a shame. Adult game making is like being a musician. At the very top, you can make tons of money. but one tier down and you make next to nothing.
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It's just that vanilla fans don't like there's cheating/cuckolding involved in a swinging game with many routes...Which is how It's supposed to be in a RPG like game...I mean you make bad choices you get bad consequences,there's also a good route where wife stays good,people just want the MC to sleep around while the wife gets cucked and sits in a corner lmao...I don't get It why so much hate...Writing,storytelling is great so far,I just dislike the fact latest update content was too short....I hope we get next big update soon..Excited for future content.
- Dec 18, 2019
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Completely agree. This game is great. Dev, just take your time. Do what you need to and take the time it needs. I love this game, I think it is up there in the top 5 games, on this site I have played. And boy, I have played a lot.
- Jan 15, 2019
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True..This is one of the western games where I actually bothered to read the dialogues rather than just watching the seggs scenes..I like the multiple routes and consequences so far,although the confidence system needs more work or at least a flow chart system like Japanese VN's from ANIM or something...Just hoping this one good gem doesn't get abandoned..Kudos to the devs and good luck.
- Nov 16, 2018
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I could be wrong but the only true cheat I see is in the dream. MC in other events has given her the open to persue nod. In the case of Jason / Tori they discussed it at the house before they left. As for the dude at the bar....she got undressed but waited for him to get there. I may be wrong... but that is how I see it. I look forward to the future events. Just to be clear... I am not a major fan of out right cheating. I like to see them swing together.
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Yeah..Cheating is non-existent so far,It's either been partly/fully consensual or cuckold route...Which are all choices made my the MC...I guess Some vanilla fans can't handle the idea of Wife having fun without the MC...Yet still playing a Swinging game where cuckold/cheating is often possible.
- May 6, 2023
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Devilman is inaccurate. A pro-NTR troll came in and decided he would target me (a so-called Vanilla fan which is inaccurate) with a series of personal attacks. I made a few comments, a few others made comments. There were a few pages of it and a moderator came in and cleaned it all up.
- Jan 15, 2019
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No no I wasn't talking about that NTR troll guy..I just replied to "LonKirk" with my opinion...Nothing to do with that story...We all have our own POV on the game...Doesn't mean we have to attack each other personally..It is just a game lmao.
- May 6, 2023
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In the two scenes of Steph and Jason, consent is not given, that is why you get the various options including one to stop it. The other scene there is no consent given at all. MC leaves the room in both scenes and Steph starts having sex with Jason. There is no consent. Feel free to supply a screen shot to prove I am wrong.
Cuckolding and cheating are not the same thing. I've been in the cuckold lifestyle for 10years and now we recently changed to open/swinging lifestyle. Cheating is Not part of either lifestyle. Some couples may agree to give the wife free rain but that is a minority. Mutual consent is the No1 rule for almost every couple I have met.
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I didn't attack you, I just said you were inaccurate and gave my account of what happened. That's all. If you were talking about something else than I apologise for misunderstanding.
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Again,the cheating part happens in the cuck/low confidence route..The High confidence route is clean tho..at least It seems that way to me...and again,It's a game not real life swinging simulator,plus now there's NTR tag..Your complains are logical from your pov,I get that...On the other hand,I see no issues since those are just different routes...On the other hand,I am not happy with how short this update was compared to the waiting period.
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Oh no no,I meant the other troll guy who wrote stuff to you...We have no issues man,you helped me out a lot with exploring the routes.
- Nov 16, 2018
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Here is what I see.... MC gave here the green light..... so If this is true then she did not cheat... she just got agressive...
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Sorry if I'm grumpy, been up all night with my teenage daughter, long story. No sleep ugh
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I disagree, that's not a green light for sex, MC is talking about what Tori has to offer in regards to the 3some meeting ahead. Then MC adds an afterthought of no sex jut focus on the meeting. Its ambiguous at best, its not clear mutual consent for her to have sex as soon as he leaves the room. If she took it that way then why do it as soon as he leaves the room and MC clearly doesn't expect in the dialogue when he hears Steph.
Even so, one of the main issues for me is not just consent but the portrayal of MC in the stereotype cuck role. It pisses me off. These devs told me they were going to be different and its the same old stereotypes. I was excited we were getting a lot more, an intriguing story with branches and choices but nope, same old same offensive stereotype and even worse he is manipulated in to it.