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Pr0GamerJohnny

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totally unrelated to AMW, I was perusing that list of new tags, I'm over the moon that we'll be able to filter by production type or origin! If all i want are swinging games like this, eg, wmw, lwl, etcetc, I hate having my search results cluttered up by tons of weeb crap.

Not to mention, the introduction of the "netorase" tag should help sharpen searches for stuff like this (as much as I'd love to get away from these stupid terms). The " open-relationship " tag is also much welcome in this sense. Sadly I see they did away with the swinging tag :(
 
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why are people so obsessed with tags? its a great game with hot models and scenes , just keep bringing it!!!!! THATS ALL I WANT !
Tags allow people to find the content they want and don't want. Originally, this game was limited to swinging with some strong language that insinuated it might include cuckolding. Cuckolding is a pretty extreme kink. It is not everyone's cup of tea. If a game has the proper tags, then it allows more people to find the right content without stupid questions and a lot of discussion about what is or isn't in the game.
 

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i dont see how your response to my msg has any connection. I wrote nothing about tags.
I think he was responding to the wrong person....

There are 4-5 general ways the first night can go; you can be in a 4some together, or split (different rooms), or you can just go home with wife, or you can have threesome (mmf) with wife, or there's the [train] ("bad ending") night.

Which route you're on then determines what's available the next day - so like nurikabe said above - which are you trying to reach?
 

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Hey everyone,

I just came across this game and noticed there's quite a discrepancy between the reviews and the comments.

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It's simple. Prior to the most recent update, everything in your first paragraph was true. Your second paragraph sums up 2 out of the 3 paths in the most recent update.

Granted, I', one of the more cynical voices here, but yeah, that's the lowdown. Though everyone pretty much unanimously agrees the first 2 in game days are done very well with a mix of paths.

But the idea that the game's premise, the invitation to swing being deceitful is huge because that redefines the story as a whole.
preaching to the choir bro. And it's not just a function of other paths being incomplete (though that is somewhat the case), the relative percentage of "ntrish" paths of the total number of paths has risen quickly. In the first version, there was one "bad-end" path. Now, as mentioned, it's 2/3. As in, if you picked choices at random, there'd be a about a 65% chance of it ending with you being forced to watch the wife having sex while you're denied by your intended 'partner'. The difference between the two bad paths is just a slight tweak in dialogue.


Anyway, give it a try if you're on the fence; if you explore several of the paths you'll likely soon see what people are talking about in this thread.
 
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It's simple. Prior to the most recent update, everything in your first paragraph was true. Your second paragraph sums up 2 out of the 3 paths in the most recent update.

Granted, I', one of the more cynical voices here, but yeah, that's the lowdown. Though everyone pretty much unanimously agrees the first 2 in game days are done very well with a mix of paths.

preaching to the choir bro. And it's not just a function of other paths being incomplete (though that is somewhat the case), the relative percentage of "ntrish" paths of the total number of paths has risen quickly. In the first version, there was one "bad-end" path. Now, as mentioned, it's 2/3. As in, if you picked choices at random, there'd be a about a 65% chance of it ending with you being forced to watch the wife having sex while you're denied by your intended 'partner'. The difference between the two bad paths is just a slight tweak in dialogue.


Anyway, give it a try if you're on the fence; if you explore several of the paths you'll likely soon see what people are talking about in this thread.
Hey Johnny thanks for giving such a detailed follow up.

You wrote a lot of interesting things, but I specifically wanted to ask you about this point -
In the first version, there was one "bad-end" path. Now, as mentioned, it's 2/3.
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Why do you say the cuckold paths are a bad end? Is that because the game itself presents the MC's cuckolding as something to shame him for? Or are you personally against NTR in general?
 
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Hey Johnny thanks for giving such a detailed follow up.

You wrote a lot of interesting things, but I specifically wanted to ask you about this point - .

Why do you say the cuckold paths are a bad end? Is that because the game itself presents the MC's cuckolding as something to shame him for? Or are you personally against NTR in general?
I am VERY against ntr as a genre/theme. I can't wait till the forum update when we can filter by ntrs/sharing while excluding ntr. I love sharing games, and I like cuckolding games without a heavy humilation focus - but most of the time games that describe themselves as such are really just non-roleplay humilation; there's no teasing or levity, they really are trying to make the mc suffer.

I wrote "bad-end" in the vernacular of forums here. By bad end, I mean the mc's dialogue is written in a way that doesn't project comfort or strong enjoyment with the situation. The text may read "Despite this, I was turned on", but nothing in the artwork or anything outside of the text indicates that's the case. So for clarity, perhaps swap "bad-end" for "extreme humilation/sissification-flavor of cuckolding" (with no transitition)
 

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I am VERY against ntr as a genre/theme. I can't wait till the forum update when we can filter by ntrs/sharing while excluding ntr. I love sharing games, and I like cuckolding games without a heavy humilation focus - but most of the time games that describe themselves as such are really just non-roleplay humilation; there's no teasing or levity, they really are trying to make the mc suffer.

I wrote "bad-end" in the vernacular of forums here. By bad end, I mean the mc's dialogue is written in a way that doesn't project comfort or strong enjoyment with the situation. The text may read "Despite this, I was turned on", but nothing in the artwork or anything outside of the text indicates that's the case. So for clarity, perhaps swap "bad-end" for "extreme humilation/sissification-flavor of cuckolding" (with no transitition)
Thanks again for the great response mate.

I'll give this one a miss for now, maybe check in on it when it's got a bit more content. I was gunning for something that provided a genuine sharing experience
 

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Thanks again for the great response mate.

I'll give this one a miss for now, maybe check in on it when it's got a bit more content. I was gunning for something that provided a genuine sharing experience
I think you should take a look after the next update. Should be some great content by then and the kinks will be worked out from the Tori & Jason fallout that you are reading about on the thread.

While I am not anti-NTR, or cuckold, neither is really my thing either. However, the problem with those two specific current "endings" is that they came out of nowhere, are contrary to the characters' established behavior so far, and seem to be rushed together to meet the update deadline. In fact, the devs have already worked to clean that up quite a bit. I know they are focusing more interim updates on the issue in the coming days.

To answer the question about "bad" endings, The devs have taken a stance that put the submissive cuckold behavior as the undesirable ending in the game. That is, if you do all the "wrong" things, and make choices that are "weak" behaviors on behalf of the MC, then the result is the submissive cuckold route.

Hope that contributes to the great answers Pr0GamerJohnny has already posted.
 

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Right now, we have three things happening in the game’s development. First, we are continuing the work of replacing older animations in the game. We’re getting close to a point where we can remaster the demo. Second, we are also adding animations to the newest content in the game.

The third thing we are doing is a course correction on where the game ends up. Originally, because it’s a game, we thought of the end in terms of winning and losing. There was going to be a winning path, a “runner-up” path and several losing paths. And if the player lost, then the idea was to replay the game making different choices because the losing paths would have a lot of unanswered questions. We’re changing that so that what happens after you meet Tori is you are on a path that will win, win big, or win really big.

We never wanted this to be a game where players felt they had to replay it in order to succeed, but we were creating a game mechanic that did exactly that. We want people to replay the game because they enjoyed it, and they want to see where the other paths might take them. I think we got it right with Friday night in that we opened to five different experiences. They were all successful experiences in their own way, and that’s what we want to keep doing through to the end. (Hint: You can win, win big or win really big, on any of the five paths from Friday night though some are more likely to result in a big win than others.)

With that said, I can now say that in our game as well as our future games, you are going to be the hero of your story, and you are going to have a happy ending. In my mind this was always true because I can’t not see the winning paths. But now it is true in all situations. Yes, there are still off-ramps early in the game. I’m not sure what I want to do with those, so they are staying as they are for right now (Que discussion for "go back to the bar" option. Hit me.).

So we are going to be updating the game weekly for a while as we work on all three of these fronts. Our next update will patch on Wednesday. It will include a new animation for one of the existing scenes with Steph and Jason, a replacement animation in the old stuff, and new content that we are inserting into the dinner scene. This content helps set up the shift in how we move towards the end of the game.

Also, I said I would create a bit of a guide and post it as a discussion tomorrow. It won't be a detailed walkthrough, but it will guide raising and lowering confidence as well as steps needed to reach certain content. That will pop up tomorrow for those interested.

As always, we appreciate you being here for Early Access. We appreciate all of your feedback, questions and support. We sincerely feel our game is better for it.
 

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It is interesting... We (I should probably say I) have not spent much time discussing the "go back to the bar" option the MC had after seeing Steph screwing Donny without him. But it was apparently a big discussion elsewhere (Steam and other forums?). Not sure why. If he was pissed, he could go see if Gina was still at the bar and if she was still game. Meh. No big deal. I was more pissed Steph went on without him. She did warn him though! LOL

Looking forward to the patch on Wednesday. I chose to stop playing the mini-patches of 1.06 until they got their ducks in a row. So, I am excited to see how that turns out.

Changing the game ideology from winning/losing to the new win/win/win routes sounds intriguing. Less of a negative take on the cuckold path? I'm not sure what that new idea will look like.
 
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We’re changing that so that what happens after you meet Tori is you are on a path that will win, win big, or win really big.

We never wanted this to be a game where players felt they had to replay it in order to succeed, but we were creating a game mechanic that did exactly that. We want people to replay the game because they enjoyed it, and they want to see where the other paths might take them. I think we got it right with Friday night in that we opened to five different experiences. They were all successful experiences in their own way, and that’s what we want to keep doing through to the end. (Hint: You can win, win big or win really big, on any of the five paths from Friday night though some are more likely to result in a big win than others.)
I don't quite understand what they mean.
Does this mean that we will no longer have a "game over" and each player will get the ending they deserve with their choices?

What kind of happy endings are they talking about, given that Jason's plan looks like a scam and Stephanie acts like a hypocritical bitch on most routes? Wouldn't it be possible to get a divorce?
Cuckolding will no longer be perceived as something negative, and the MC will be proud to carry the title of a cuck? Will this be a "happy" ending?

I thought it was a game about swinging...

I've come to terms with the fact that the MC is obsessed with Tori for some strange reason. Now I'm offered to come to terms with the fact that he will accept an unfair attitude towards himself and this will be considered a "happy ending". hmm.. no thanks.
 
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I don't quite understand what they mean.
Does this mean that we will no longer have a "game over" and each player will get the ending they deserve with their choices?

What kind of happy endings are they talking about, given that Jason's plan looks like a scam and Stephanie acts like a hypocritical bitch on most routes? Wouldn't it be possible to get a divorce?
Cuckolding will no longer be perceived as something negative, and the MC will be proud to carry the title of a cuck? Will this be a "happy" ending?

I thought it was a game about swinging...

I've come to terms with the fact that the MC is obsessed with Tori for some strange reason. Now I'm offered to come to terms with the fact that he will accept an unfair attitude towards himself and this will be considered a "happy ending". hmm.. no thanks.
if one of the "happy ending" is an option to divorce steph if she misbehave....
that will be considered as one of the happy ending in my book.
i know Grumpy Old Aussie will agree on this one
 
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That is, to put it briefly, it looks like the swinging is no longer the main direction of the game. Now, the theme of the game is open relationships in all their variety. The MC will be happy no matter what position he finds himself in at the end.

If this turns out to be true, then I pass.
 
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