VN Ren'Py Abandoned Another Man's Wife [v1.092] [Too Perilous]

[Mamonetti]

I think his obsession with Tori is (or was) path dependent. Prior to this update, based on how you chose answers during the initial night at bar; Tori could be as small as a mere conversational impetus for getting the ball rolling - at least that's how I played it. This is why I'm looking forward to what will likely be the most neglected route (but I can dream) - the future of the game with zero Tori and Jason, and all mc and wife hot swinging action.

Well, this obsession is the trigger of everything, that's for sure. It can be somehow molded with the choices we make as the game progresses but it's still there.

Even before the final watcher cuck scene, I find Tori INTENSELY dislikable. "Let's have some drinks and get to know each other better" - "If you're not comfortable, that's fine" fuck off ugly bitch I'm just trying to make conversation and socially lubricate everyone.

I don't like her either but let's be clear, the amount of work required to keep both Jason/Tori and non-Jason/Tori paths active and with enough content in future updates is huge. So I don't expect the developers to drop Jason and Tori in the foreseeable future.

Regards

 

[Nurikabe]

Obviously both Jason and Tori knew what they were doing when they offered the 3some since they had plenty of experience in this matter.

However, even though the MC finds Tori attractive, that's not what moves him to actually consider this offer. He is obsessed with Tori, a forbidden fruit. The fact that he has the chance to bang another man's wife has proved to be stronger than the love he feels for his own wife. Damn, he's even open to let other men fuck Steph although they seemed to be a happy couple who enjoyed their lives together in every aspect including sex (far from a couple crisis or something like that).

So no, there was no equality from the moment the 3some showed up. It was him focused on one goal, fucking Tori, even at a cost of sacrificing his wife.

Regards

Not in any of my playthroughs did the MC act like Tori was the object of his totally obsessed desires. Not one. I have played this game so many times I can't even count.

If you focus on Tori entirely as the object of all desire and reason for making any moves towards swinging, Steph ends it. That tells me that going down the route of the obsessed husband lusting after another man's wife will end the game and is not the purpose or intent of the story in any way.

If you play the main route with confidence on high and all the choices that would qualify as "bold" you get a very amiable Steph, as well as seeing that all other characters magically align to be your ally. Porn logic here is a must. Typical of these visual novels where the MC becomes the greatest man and the other characters are all there to serve in his wish fulfillment.

In a negative playthrough, where you choose low-confidence options making only weak choices, you get a completely different game where the MC is made out as a man who wants to be a cuckold and just didn't know it. He enjoys what he sees and what his wife does. Although, in the last update the devs gave players the option to escape from those routes ("off-ramps").

I respect your opinion and take on the game. But there is nothing to support that vision in the actual story.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Not in any of my playthroughs did the MC act like Tori was the object of his totally obsessed desires. Not one. I have played this game so many times I can't even count.

If you focus on Tori entirely as the object of all desire and reason for making any moves towards swinging, Steph ends it. That tells me that going down the route of the obsessed husband lusting after another man's wife will end the game and is not the purpose or intent of the story in any way.

If you play the main route with confidence on high and all the choices that would qualify as "bold" you get a very amiable Steph, as well as seeing that all other characters magically align to be your ally. Porn logic here is a must. Typical of these visual novels where the MC becomes the greatest man and the other characters are all there to serve in his wish fulfillment.

In a negative playthrough, where you choose low-confidence options making only weak choices, you get a completely different game where the MC is made out as a man who wants to be a cuckold and just didn't know it. He enjoys what he sees and what his wife does. Although, in the last update the devs gave players the option to escape from those routes ("off-ramps").

I respect your opinion and take on the game. But there is nothing to support that vision in the actual story.

Exactly, on a high confidence playthrough tori and jason play an extremely minor part in the story for the first 2 days; you almost forget they're in the game. High confidence playthroughs also see the most jarring discontunity with act 3- obviously there's no cuck scene, but even the conversation feels awkward, because you've already been there done that at that point, and yet they talk to you like you're in swinger kindergarten.

I don't like her either but let's be clear, the amount of work required to keep both Jason/Tori and non-Jason/Tori paths active and with enough content in future updates is huge. So I don't expect the developers to drop Jason and Tori in the foreseeable future.

For sure, though the fact that they went out of their way to give a blurb in game on how they have every intention of developing that path is somewhat heartening...

 

[Nurikabe]

I don't like her either but let's be clear, the amount of work required to keep both Jason/Tori and non-Jason/Tori paths active and with enough content in future updates is huge. So I don't expect the developers to drop Jason and Tori in the foreseeable future.

For sure, though the fact that they went out of their way to give a blurb in game on how they have every intention of developing that path is somewhat heartening...

And we know that Tori, Gina, and Steph will be in future games. They are invested in these characters and their story. I believe they are also invested and truly desire to tell a great story. They are working actively to improve the story on each update. They have taken criticism well and are engaging positively with supporters. These are all very good signs!

 

[Mamonetti]

Not in any of my playthroughs did the MC act like Tori was the object of his totally obsessed desires. Not one. I have played this game so many times I can't even count.

If you focus on Tori entirely as the object of all desire and reason for making any moves towards swinging, Steph ends it. That tells me that going down the route of the obsessed husband lusting after another man's wife will end the game and is not the purpose or intent of the story in any way.

If you play the main route with confidence on high and all the choices that would qualify as "bold" you get a very amiable Steph, as well as seeing that all other characters magically align to be your ally. Porn logic here is a must. Typical of these visual novels where the MC becomes the greatest man and the other characters are all there to serve in his wish fulfillment.

In a negative playthrough, where you choose low-confidence options making only weak choices, you get a completely different game where the MC is made out as a man who wants to be a cuckold and just didn't know it. He enjoys what he sees and what his wife does. Although, in the last update the devs gave players the option to escape from those routes ("off-ramps").

I respect your opinion and take on the game. But there is nothing to support that vision in the actual story.

Of course I see what you mean and it's reasonable.

However, I believe you're missing one point here. The fact that the MC is obsessed with Tori is 100% compatible with him being smart when it comes to discuss this topic with Steph. Obviously if you try to play the alpha male with her, you're fucked. From the beginning, they respected each other and you can't break this balance all of a sudden, that's why he's offering something in exchange (his blessing for her to have fun with other men).

Exactly, on a high confidence playthrough tori and jason play an extremely minor part in the story for the first 2 days; you almost forget they're in the game. High confidence playthroughs also see the most jarring discontunity with act 3- obviously there's no cuck scene, but even the conversation feels awkward, because you've already been there done that at that point, and yet they talk to you like you're in swinger kindergarten.

These 2 first days are pretty much an introduction for what's to come, the meeting with Jason and Tori. In order for this to move on, they need to be ready and that's what they do in these first days, get ready.

And btw, has anyone noticed something strange in their posts? The sentence I've highlighted in bold from the previous quote wasn't there in the original post, or at least I couldn't see it (just showed up when I clicked on Reply). Actually I think it's already happened in a previous post of this thread.

And we know that Tori, Gina, and Steph will be in future games. They are invested in these characters and their story. I believe they are also invested and truly desire to tell a great story. They are working actively to improve the story on each update. They have taken criticism well and are engaging positively with supporters. These are all very good signs!

Well, that's good to hear indeed.

Regards

 

[m4pII]

I don't think the MC is infatuated with Tori. Tori is the impetus for the change in his world. She is the carrot that is offered for him and Steph opening their relationship. From the beginning, this has been a story about open relationships and equality in relationships. Not to be confused with symmetry. As has been mentioned, it isn't about "you get one, I get one." It is more about what we do together. Unless you make the "wrong" choices (lack confidence and boldness) that will direct you to the voyeur or cuckold path.

The offer to sleep with Tori is what motivated the MC to embrace his new lifestyle, even risking his marriage.
At game over, in the MC's mind, we are shown a frustrated Tori, who says that we screwed up and we won't get her.
If this isn't an obsession, then I don't even know.

Also, in the beginning, the idea of the game was some kind of equality in relationships.
Now, in the latest update, the narration of most routes is the selfish Steph, who takes the reins in her own hands or begins to manipulate.

Edit.
I think some subscribers did not like that the cuckold ending turned out to be one of the bad endings. "why being a cuck is losing and bad?"
And now we don't have any bad endings and bad choices at all, as the MC will be happy... no matter what.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

And btw, has anyone noticed something strange in their posts? The sentence I've highlighted in bold from the previous quote wasn't there in the original post, or at least I couldn't see it (just showed up when I clicked on Reply). Actually I think it's already happened in a previous post of this thread.

thats probably just me noticing spelling errors or sentence flow after the fact and adjusting with edits, I tend to edit posts a LOT after posting. At least that's my guess; people editing posts, I have no idea if not that.

The offer to sleep with Tori is what motivated the MC to embrace his new lifestyle, even risking his marriage.
At game over, in the MC's mind, we are shown a frustrated Tori, who says that we screwed up and we won't get her.
If this isn't an obsession, then I don't even know.

This is true, he does get frustrated in that segment, but I just don't feel it. I know that sounds awfully arbitrary, what I'm saying is it feels like the dev/writer is forcing me to care about Tori even though I don't, and little of my MC's actions do or his dialogue prior to final night. It feels like a 'gotcha'.

 

[Letstryitout]

***Gallery Mod Another Man's Wife***

This mod adds a Gallery to the game for erotic scenes and images that unlocks as the player encounters those scenes.
There is also an optional Unlock/Relock Unseen button. Due to Renpy limitation viewing a scene unlocked through the button will unlock it permanently.
During replay, right-click and choose "End Replay" to stop replay and return to gallery.
For images, click on them when opened to close and return to gallery.

For replays player name is Erick

As the game is getting more complex please let me know if I am missing some scenes.

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umm, this might be mixed with Adventurous Couple mod, nothing happens when put to games folder, and the text file says it's for Tacos?

 

[D3vilMan]

umm, this might be mixed with Adventurous Couple mod, nothing happens when put to games folder, and the text file says it's for Tacos?

You need to put the extracted 'game' folder into the main game location...Mod works fine.

 

[asahibito]

umm, this might be mixed with Adventurous Couple mod, nothing happens when put to games folder, and the text file says it's for Tacos?

Well that was embarrassing. Serves me right for publishing updates late night. Thanks for the catch. Appreciate it. The correct files should be uploaded now.

 

[asahibito]

You need to put the extracted 'game' folder into the main game location...Mod works fine.

Thanks for the vote of confidence but this time mea culpa. Corrected files should be uploaded now. Changed the way I packaged it so there is no “game” folder now. Changed install instructions to put whatever is extracted into the “game” folder.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

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Right now, we have three things happening in the game’s development. First, we are continuing the work of replacing older animations in the game. We’re getting close to a point where we can remaster the demo. Second, we are also adding animations to the newest content in the game.

The third thing we are doing is a course correction on where the game ends up. Originally, because it’s a game, we thought of the end in terms of winning and losing. There was going to be a winning path, a “runner-up” path and several losing paths. And if the player lost, then the idea was to replay the game making different choices because the losing paths would have a lot of unanswered questions. We’re changing that so that what happens after you meet Tori is you are on a path that will win, win big, or win really big.

We never wanted this to be a game where players felt they had to replay it in order to succeed, but we were creating a game mechanic that did exactly that. We want people to replay the game because they enjoyed it, and they want to see where the other paths might take them. I think we got it right with Friday night in that we opened to five different experiences. They were all successful experiences in their own way, and that’s what we want to keep doing through to the end. (Hint: You can win, win big or win really big, on any of the five paths from Friday night though some are more likely to result in a big win than others.)

With that said, I can now say that in our game as well as our future games, you are going to be the hero of your story, and you are going to have a happy ending. In my mind this was always true because I can’t not see the winning paths. But now it is true in all situations. Yes, there are still off-ramps early in the game. I’m not sure what I want to do with those, so they are staying as they are for right now (Que discussion for "go back to the bar" option. Hit me.).

So we are going to be updating the game weekly for a while as we work on all three of these fronts. Our next update will patch on Wednesday. It will include a new animation for one of the existing scenes with Steph and Jason, a replacement animation in the old stuff, and new content that we are inserting into the dinner scene. This content helps set up the shift in how we move towards the end of the game.

Also, I said I would create a bit of a guide and post it as a discussion tomorrow. It won't be a detailed walkthrough, but it will guide raising and lowering confidence as well as steps needed to reach certain content. That will pop up tomorrow for those interested.

As always, we appreciate you being here for Early Access. We appreciate all of your feedback, questions and support. We sincerely feel our game is better for it.

Hi guys, I'll be back in full swing in the next couple of days. I've enjoyed catching up with the great debates you guys have had while I am away. You guys rock.

A new update this week, that will be interesting to see. I'm not going to speculate on where the new direction is going. I'll wait and see.

"Good endings" sounds fantastic. A bit of caution, the devs ideas of good endings might be different to yours or mine. Not a negative comment, just a possibility to be aware of. As we saw with the debate we had on confidence a few weeks ago, the devs ideas on what is and isn't confidence in some scenarios is somewhat different to what most of us consider confidence is at times. The endings may turn out the same.

PS I saw your comment Jetz about the Steph divorce possibility and yep I agree, you know me well haha.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Thanks for the vote of confidence but this time mea culpa. Corrected files should be uploaded now. Changed the way I packaged it so there is no “game” folder now. Changed install instructions to put whatever is extracted into the “game” folder.

A new update in a couple of days you get to do it all again lol.

Thank you though. I appreciate your efforts.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I'm just having some fun using renders from one of the old removed scenes since I'm stuck in a hotel room bored. Hopefully you will get a laugh out of it.

Poor Steph:

 

[asahibito]

A new update in a couple of days you get to do it all again lol.

Thank you though. I appreciate your efforts.

Thanks for the kind words. Now that I have the base feature set in place, for the gallery mod, it should just be data entry for new scenes and participants. And since I have to go through the script file to find that info might as well work on the walkthrough mod at the same time.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

How many updates till Tori makes Steph get this tattoo on her tit?

 

[m4pII]

How many updates till Tori makes Steph get this tattoo on her tit?
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[D3vilMan]

How many updates till Tori makes Steph get this tattoo on her tit?
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The amount of over exaggerating is getting boring tbh..no real cuck/cheating is going,everything so far by Steph had MC's consent so far.The only flag was manipulation by Tori/Jason..and that kinda makes It more interesting.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

The amount of over exaggerating is getting boring tbh..no real cuck/cheating is going,everything so far by Steph had MC's consent so far.The only flag was manipulation by Tori/Jason..and that kinda makes It more interesting.

 

[Nurikabe]

The amount of over exaggerating is getting boring tbh..no real cuck/cheating is going,everything so far by Steph had MC's consent so far.The only flag was manipulation by Tori/Jason..and that kinda makes It more interesting.

It is a story about swinging and open relationships. The cuckold and cheating endings are what happens if you make the "wrong" choices.

With the new changes coming, it sounds like they are going to take away what you consider interesting. They are making all the endings a "win" but the cuckold ending will still be the least desirable ending.