Any free AI that helps write adult erotic fiction, that doesn't require phone number or $$$? Preferably an offline AI?

anne O'nymous

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You often may need to find a single word that represents multiple concepts.
Hmmm... You mean homonyms ?

Wait, forget about my question, what you mean doesn't matters. What matters is that, if you need an AI to find a word for you, 75% of the players will not understand you. You'll just looks pedantic and your writing will feel totally superficial.
This doesn't mean that you've to limits to basic words, but there's a reason why Hemingway is way more known and read than anyone who received a Nobel Prize in Literature.


You no longer have to waste x amount of minutes on stuff like that.
There's no wasted time when you write. If you're stuck for minutes on a single word, then it mean that you aren't ready to write this part. You still don't know what it's supposed to mean, how it's supposed to be said, how it's supposed to feel, and how it insert in the story.

Not that writing is something instantaneous. Even when it's natural for you, you'll have to go back on what you wrote, to smooth it and to correct it until it fit the character and context. But still the draft you'll correct should come naturally. When you write, you do not invent, you are a witness that testify about events that happened. You know how to describe the scene, because when you close your eyes you see it. You know what everyone will say, because you heard it.
Of course, this doesn't meant that you can't write about totally fictional events. It just mean that the events are in your mind, as fresh and vivid than a memory you'll never be able to forget.

Everything is already in you, you are just the vessel that will make it available to the public. I don't remember who, I think it's Ray Bradbury but don't quote me on this, said once that when he starts writing he can't stop, because he's as curious as the future readers to know what will happen next.
And it's what writing is. You don't invent, you even less search for a fucking really precise word (well, unless you don't write in your natural language, yet then you still know the word in your said natural language). Everything is coming to you.
And if later, when you'll be correcting your draft, you've to rely on an AI to find a word, then you don't know your story, you don't know your characters. And, by extension, you just shouldn't write.
 

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Your turn. Tell me how you use the AI to help you save time. Then we'll trade knowledge.
But you made the assertion that you could show 398490238402384 ways AI is useful? You must adduce evidence of your assertion especially that such advice could aid developers and would be developers everywhere, surely you don't want them to think less of you by not being able to name more ways it could help?

I believe in you, you can continue...
 
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LOL, 5 years of game development. I WISH.
Wait, what ?

It's been more or less the same time that I myself talk about the game I'll once have the time to do. But contrarily to you, it's years of game development.
I don't have the time to works on the game, but it doesn't mean that my brain don't have time to think about it. I have a dozen story drafts, all except one rejected for a reason or another. I know precisely what story I'll finally write, and some of the characters are now present in my mind since so long, that they feel like close friends. I sometime dreams about it, I have images that pop in my mind when I close my eyes.
I'm still far to have the time to works on my game, but I already know it, played it. What is missing is just the time to do it, and probably still a bit of knowledge for the CGs to be at least half as good as they are in my mind, that's all.

But well, I guess that now I know why you don't want to waste X minutes searching for a word. I too would feel that way if I wasted 5 years not working on my game story.
 

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Hmmm... You mean homonyms ?

Wait, forget about my question, what you mean doesn't matters. What matters is that, if you need an AI to find a word for you, 75% of the players will not understand you. You'll just looks pedantic and your writing will feel totally superficial.
This doesn't mean that you've to limits to basic words, but there's a reason why Hemingway is way more known and read than anyone who received a Nobel Prize in Literature.




There's no wasted time when you write. If you're stuck for minutes on a single word, then it mean that you aren't ready to write this part. You still don't know what it's supposed to mean, how it's supposed to be said, how it's supposed to feel, and how it insert in the story.

Not that writing is something instantaneous. Even when it's natural for you, you'll have to go back on what you wrote, to smooth it and to correct it until it fit the character and context. But still the draft you'll correct should come naturally. When you write, you do not invent, you are a witness that testify about events that happened. You know how to describe the scene, because when you close your eyes you see it. You know what everyone will say, because you heard it.
Of course, this doesn't meant that you can't write about totally fictional events. It just mean that the events are in your mind, as fresh and vivid than a memory you'll never be able to forget.

Everything is already in you, you are just the vessel that will make it available to the public. I don't remember who, I think it's Ray Bradbury but don't quote me on this, said once that when he starts writing he can't stop, because he's as curious as the future readers to know what will happen next.
And it's what writing is. You don't invent, you even less search for a fucking really precise word (well, unless you don't write in your natural language, yet then you still know the word in your said natural language). Everything is coming to you.
And if later, when you'll be correcting your draft, you've to rely on an AI to find a word, then you don't know your story, you don't know your characters. And, by extension, you just shouldn't write.
I don't say this lightly. I agree with everything said here, but I still want to investigate how AI could save me time.

For example, I tried offline stable diffusion, but it can't do what I want yet, but that doesn't mean it's useless. I can still use it to render textures and create UI art. That saves A LOT of time. So I tried to use it for x purpose, but instead I learned I could still use it for y & z, so it was worth investigating and experimenting with.

I'm hoping to find a break through similar to above with an AI that specializes in writing. If anything, I would want to submit my entire script to the AI; preferably offline, and have it critique my writings based on the styles of 100 famous reviewers or something, that would be interesting, lol.

EDIT: See how you corrected me in regards to the Homonym? I need something like that, but with an AI. I know my strengths and weaknesses, and that motivates me to find solutions.
 
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You often may need to find a single word that represents multiple concepts. Searching for that manually yourself is a waste of time. The AI can do it for you much faster, practically instantly. You no longer have to waste x amount of minutes on stuff like that. The AI assistant will do it for you. You can have the AI help you with thesaurus stuff, but you can add context to what alt words you want based on genre;fantasy,scifi-give the AI a theme, ask for multiple words, or just single word.
That's not wasted time. You learn. You improve your grasp on the concepts you want to represent. You chew the words and concepts over until you have a combination conveying what you want to in the way you want to. You improve both as a writer and as a person.
 
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Lots of good feedback, guys, do you think a porn game dev should disclose to his patreons to what extent he's using an AI to write the story? Would it be unethical to not disclose that information? Hmmm. I've been programming for too long, so my brain has long been fried, but had to ask.

"Guys, I'm using AI to write the whole story."
"Guys, I'm using AI to write mini-plots in the story."
"Guys, I'm using AI to go over basic stuff I might have messed up on, like instead of saying one word for multiple concepts, I should just say homonym ffs."
 

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Lots of good feedback, guys, do you think a porn game dev should disclose to his patreons to what extent he's using an AI to write the story? Would it be unethical to not disclose that information? Hmmm. I've been programming for too long, so my brain has long been fried, but had to ask.
Yeah, do it man!

Let AI write the story and conversations for your VN today.

Let AI create a visual for you tomorrow.

Then start a Patreon, tag yourself "game developer" and ask people for money for your game. I'm sure you will be a successful developer... WTF :KEK:
 

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Yeah, do it man!

Let AI write the story and conversations for your VN today.

Let AI create a visual for you tomorrow.

Then start a Patreon, tag yourself "game developer" and ask people for money for your game. I'm sure you will be a successful developer... WTF :KEK:
IMO, the AI can write a better story than 98% of the games on this website.

You seem to hold the games on this website in high esteem, that's fascinating to me, it's cute actually.

If I had to choose between letting an AI write the story or letting some rando porn game dev on f95zone write the story, I'd go with the AI every time, lol.
 
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KoboldAI is an offline ai smut/novel tool, if you're still looking for one of those.
Thank you, I think this is precisely what I've been looking for. Let's see what this bad boy can do.

EDIT: Wait a second, this is for that dungeon simulator thingy? That was not very good, but still, I'll try it.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not using the AI to write a story from me. I need it to review my story that's already been written. I want to see if it can detect plot holes, what it thinks about the grammar, etc. I want to see how good it is at condensing my writing, so it's shorter but still conveys the same meaning. I'm highly inquisitive and investigative of new tech.
 

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But you made the assertion that you could show 398490238402384 ways AI is useful? You must adduce evidence of your assertion especially that such advice could aid developers and would be developers everywhere, surely you don't want them to think less of you by not being able to name more ways it could help?

I believe in you, you can continue...
Still waiting for backing up of the claim...
 

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Funny how the dev has mentioned that he wants help of AI and needs assistance and not AI doing his whole work. Still the thread is going on about him being lazy but irl everyone's doing the same thing with gpt lol. Everyone needs AI assistance now a days and it's nothing wrong . Only if people understand and read properly would save so much of unnecessary drama
 

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Funny how the dev has mentioned that he wants help of AI and needs assistance and not AI doing his whole work.
Normally I would agree with you, but considering how OP expressed in previous threads how he believes everyone should be as critical and unreasonable as they can towards devs, then the responses he received are very onpoint.

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Now more on topic, I would advise to strongly think twice before relying on any assistance from AI when it comes to any artistic endeavor.

Plenty of people that are insecure about their own work might end up resorting to AI to polish things, however what many don't consider is that they might end up polishing away all the good stuff in exchage for some generic result that loses all charm and originality because afterall that's what AIs are trained for, normalization, noise removal, but sometimes that noise is exactly where the gems are.
 

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Normally I would agree with you, but considering how OP expressed in previous threads how he believes everyone should be as critical and unreasonable as they can towards devs, then the responses he received are very onpoint.
Must also be noted that regulars waited five days, and a legit answer, before starting to post.


Plenty of people that are insecure about their own work might end up resorting to AI to polish things, however what many don't consider is that they might end up polishing away all the good stuff in exchage for some generic result that loses all charm and originality because afterall that's what AIs are trained for, normalization, noise removal, but sometimes that noise is exactly where the gems are.
Totally this.

What make dialogs feel realistic is their (relative) erratic nature. This while the difference in the way to speak is part of what give their personality to the characters. But an AI will not provide this, mostly because AIs are trained with wrote content. Except for short texts, therefore texts that have near to no value for AI training, we generally don't write like we speak.
Not that AIs are necessarily bad writers, just that they aren't the right writers for what is needed by a game, especially this kind of games. AIs tend to be more formal in their way to speak while, by nature, adult/porn games tend to appeal for more casual speeches.
 
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Normally I would agree with you, but considering how OP expressed in previous threads how he believes everyone should be as critical and unreasonable as they can towards devs, then the responses he received are very onpoint.
I would be quite interested in the reason why someone should behave like that, even though I personally consider it more of a mental problem.
 

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It probably bears stressing that what people are calling AI here is not. It's a language model, designed to give the appearance of human-written text. There is no understanding, no grasp of emotional/social subtext. A is fundamentally incapable of navigating a satisfying tale of interpersonal relationships.
 
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