turbokinetics
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Im just having some fun bro. Im not actually judging you or anything.
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Ion.TemUS
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I agree, I also disagree. Lol.
I don't think the MC needs to be her "first" in anything.
I agree though that there needs to be (more) romance/spark between the two of them (there was already a lot, and a lot of good writing at this point imo tho) before she gets "corrupted" and coerced into doing stuff. But I think the principal actually met her when MC was looking for her and during that meeting something happened that is the setup for future coercion/corruption.
Ion.TemUS
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The best NTR has a decently strong MC and the FMC falls/ get corrupted DESPITE that. It plays with the powerlessness of the MC despite their physical and mental strength. If the MC was a pathetic twink the "fall" of the FMC would not be impactful cause MC would be a bad choice for a partner anyway.
Same goes for a good chemistry and romance. Last update has shown that it can deliver on that.
I'd argue it's not very impactful either way -- no matter if the MC "appears" strong or weak, if at the end of the day their partner chooses to abandon them in face of trouble/temptation/whatever, then it just means that in hindsight the supposed bond was little more than lip service and the MC's supposed strength(s) meaningless, if at the end of the day the MC didn't have what it'd take for their partner to stick with them instead of opting for the alternative. They're ultimately evaluated as "insufficient choice for a partner" in both scenarios.
If there's anything different, it is that this setup makes the MC even more of a pathetic failure than that proverbial "pathetic twink", because they can't even hide behind "well i don't have anything going for me so no wonder my partner didn't choose me".
Same for the chemistry and romance. It doesn't matter how many "ILY"s are dropped, if two weeks or months later the person declaring all that is readily fucking other people. Something that falls apart at first obstacle simply wasn't substantial to begin with, no matter how much people involved were in love with the idea of being in love.
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Instead of rush story, dev is trying to build up the relationship between the two characters and focusing on the world building (city of Hoshino). Next chapter NTR plot will begin and will have a lot of NSFW scenes. (Said by dev). NTR will be good if we are familiar and connected with these characters.
PragmaticCynic
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The description under the spoiler says something else!
But if it's the dev's own decision, that would be really cool and not based on people's opinions!
PragmaticCynic
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In fact, everything is very simple here.
The plot of the game is one and, for example, divided between the NTR branch and the Pure Love branch. At key moments before sex scenes or moments that could lead to sex scenes. For example, MC doesn't help Rin deal with the bandits, which leads to an NTR scene with the bandits, or MC helps Rin, which leads to a scene with MC.
If the developer writes the plot himself, then after the end of the NTR story, he shouldn't have any problems writing a reverse story of Pure Love branch!
I feel like you haven't really read a word of what you've quoted from my post, because your answer doesn't address posed issue at all. Your example of how it'd supposedly easily work also doesn't match what the game itself is supposedly about. Which is, to remind, not about some magical bandit assaults but:
Not only "gradual fall" isn't some sort of assault leading to a gang bang rape, but it basically requires the antagonist's actions to succeed for the female MC to be "gradually affected".
PragmaticCynic
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You want me to start my repost with your own words?
Lol
That was a simple example.
I don't know how it will work, or even if it will work at all. It's just an example of how it can be done!
Replace the bandits with a principal in my example? What's the problem?
I'll repeat once again that if the dev writes the plot himself, then after he finishes the NTR plot, it won't be difficult for him to make a reverse story with another outcome!
Ion.TemUS
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yea but the feelings it evokes are completely different.
I mean the "makes the MC even more of a pathetic failure" is your subjective opinion. I talked to a lot of NTR fans over the years and I think many would agree with me that MC being somewhat strong, attractive and charming makes the fall more enjoyable in the end. But everyone got their own preferences there ig.
Let me ask you like this then. How would YOU like the MC to be? If not a pathetic twink and not a "strong / charming MC who the FMC falls in love with but who ultimately looses", what kind of MC would you like for our NTR-game protagonist and how would you build him up?
I'm actually fine with any sort of MC in those stories, if simply for variety. It's just that, unlike those NTR fans you've spoken with, their personality doesn't really make the story more or less enjoyable for me -- because at the end of the day the outcome in these stories is the same which renders all the song and dance about MC's strengths and the depth of supposed romance little more than a sham. I simply can't get really invested in it, knowing the entire time it's just a bubble about to burst.
Ion.TemUS
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I feel like the bubble bursting makes it really bitter sweet, which I quite like personally.
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Has the creator changed his mind about NTR being inevitable? Will he create different routes for the game? All of this has been a bit confusing, since I'm not part of Discord.
It's way too early but I'm loving it so far. Hope dev gets into his flow and dish updates faster.
But even if they take time, if they keep the current quality it's worth the wait.
But even if they take time, if they keep the current quality it's worth the wait.
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If or when the dev adds the FMC POV, there are many ways to implement it from the many examples here on F95:
1. At the start of the game, the player chooses either the "MC Only POV" or the "FMC Only POV." No switching between POVs after that.
(Examples: Turning the Page, On the Edge)
2. Similar to No 1, but it's "MC Only POV" or the "All POV." In the "All POV" option, the POVs change as the story unfolds, with no input from the player when the POVs change.
(Example: Falling Undercover - Nox Syndicate, A Promise Best Left Unkept)
3. Game only has the "MC Only POV." The scenes involving the POVs of the FMC and of other characters are in a "Recollection Room" that is accessed separately. (In RenPy, this would be like having a subpage in the Main Menu where the sexy scenes not seen by the MC are unlocked as the player progresses thru the game.)
(Example: Whispers of the Dark Elf and almost every single RPG Maker game.)
4. Game starts with and mainly sticks to the "MC Only POV," but at certain times, the game gives the player the choice to jump back in time to certain scenes but this time from the FMC's POV.
(Example: Sunken Promise, Cursed Forest Quest)
5. Game starts with and main sticks to the "MC Only POV," but at certain times, the game gives the player the choice to "Stay with MC POV" or "Go to FMC POV" when the in-game characters are not together but are doing different things at the same time period. If the player decides to go with the FMC, the at the end of the scene, the player goes "Back to MC POV." Here, there is no backtracking, so the player has to use saves to see the other POVs that were happening at the same time.
(Example: Locked in Chastity)
Still though, the really big issue aside from the POV thing is if the game will have choices. Having those will really lengthen the development time because writing and making CGs for all scenarios will take super long.
The good thing about the dev is at least there is an outline of the story to prevent writer's block. Hopefully, the dev has already outlined the entire game, so the dev already knows how the story will end and the penultimat scenes leading to the end.
1. At the start of the game, the player chooses either the "MC Only POV" or the "FMC Only POV." No switching between POVs after that.
(Examples: Turning the Page, On the Edge)
2. Similar to No 1, but it's "MC Only POV" or the "All POV." In the "All POV" option, the POVs change as the story unfolds, with no input from the player when the POVs change.
(Example: Falling Undercover - Nox Syndicate, A Promise Best Left Unkept)
3. Game only has the "MC Only POV." The scenes involving the POVs of the FMC and of other characters are in a "Recollection Room" that is accessed separately. (In RenPy, this would be like having a subpage in the Main Menu where the sexy scenes not seen by the MC are unlocked as the player progresses thru the game.)
(Example: Whispers of the Dark Elf and almost every single RPG Maker game.)
4. Game starts with and mainly sticks to the "MC Only POV," but at certain times, the game gives the player the choice to jump back in time to certain scenes but this time from the FMC's POV.
(Example: Sunken Promise, Cursed Forest Quest)
5. Game starts with and main sticks to the "MC Only POV," but at certain times, the game gives the player the choice to "Stay with MC POV" or "Go to FMC POV" when the in-game characters are not together but are doing different things at the same time period. If the player decides to go with the FMC, the at the end of the scene, the player goes "Back to MC POV." Here, there is no backtracking, so the player has to use saves to see the other POVs that were happening at the same time.
(Example: Locked in Chastity)
Still though, the really big issue aside from the POV thing is if the game will have choices. Having those will really lengthen the development time because writing and making CGs for all scenarios will take super long.
The good thing about the dev is at least there is an outline of the story to prevent writer's block. Hopefully, the dev has already outlined the entire game, so the dev already knows how the story will end and the penultimat scenes leading to the end.