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Ren'Py Apocalust [psychodelusional] Discussion Thread

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Emojis

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I wasn't aware of this thread until today. This is the first time I Have been in it. Dev name looked familiar Google is my friend... Ah yes, Dark Neighborhood I remember that game it was pretty good and completed, but that was kinda a while back I'll check out the new game.

Then I notice this thread is from July 24 of 2019... So I look at the OP again, check out some of the pics and and I'm like... I want to play that game. Wheres the game link? Notice it's 109 pages long, and a discussion thread so surely there is a game somewhere out there... There is not.

585 days no game releases!? Wait what? See some comments like dev gone missing for months...

I put on my detective hat.... What's the story here? I'll get to the bottom of this...

As I'm typing this notice new comment and it's this one explaining the situation :D

I agree he is taking a bit of time there to get a release out, but It's fucked up people are sending nasty threats to dude over his game development. People like that don't help games get released they give devs a mental breakdown and delay releases even longer.

Whoever was sending him death threats / telling him to kill himself should be ashamed of themself, and grow the fuck up.

Nobody is going to make a game any faster because someone over the internet told them to kill them self.

If he is taking to long for your taste? That's fine I'm in the same boat as you. I think that is a bit long for no release. Go play another game or do whatever, don't support the dev if you don't like his pace of work, but don't send send stupid threats like that.
I agree sending death threats isn't cool at all. That being said, you just found this page not too long ago.

I found it around November of 2019 when it was suppose to be released within a month or2. There is no way in hell you take almost 2 years for a trailer and a damn 0.1 update. I've held my tongue, because I have 100s of other games I can play easily, but you have people supporting him every month. The least he could do is give a damn monthly update saying 1-2 more months at least we aren't completely abandoned.
 

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Always the end of the following month lol. Never soon. Plenty of time for the next excuse. Classic.
 
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Kellermann

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I agree sending death threats isn't cool at all. That being said, you just found this page not too long ago.

I found it around November of 2019 when it was suppose to be released within a month or2. There is no way in hell you take almost 2 years for a trailer and a damn 0.1 update. I've held my tongue, because I have 100s of other games I can play easily, but you have people supporting him every month. The least he could do is give a damn monthly update saying 1-2 more months at least we aren't completely abandoned.
Yeah, going radio silent is never a good strategy. Maintain communication and keep your promises, pretty simple. And I agree, two years for a trailer and 0.1 version is hard to believe. After the most recent post I think very little if any progress has been made since the last update.
 
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Kellermann

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We're not even looking for Citizen Kane. All he has to do is release the renders and animations with just a wisp of a story and he's golden.

Even if it has the worst possible Engrish and logic..


MC: "Oh landlady, you have many pretty, my glans tip have horny, we sex now yes??"

Landlady: "Oh Junior, you so perfect, have big dick handsome, can't resist, we do sex now..on yoga with beach. So nneed pregnant. OK carefully. Sushi?"

There you go, porn game dialogue for the win! No problems. :):giggle:
 

Bonhart

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the thing that makes me angry is that this game really has everything to be one of the most beautiful ever released on this site, renderings, animations, female characters (beautiful and sexy), just see the new material it has left

I want to give him one last chance


(Sorry for my bad english)
 
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Man, so many people here are pessimists haha.

Look, I get it. I've been waiting for this game almost since the teaser images were first released. It's irritating to have such incredible potential wasted with nothing to show for it for such a long time. That said, most of you seem to have no idea what it's like to deal with a mental illness (well, at least one you're aware of).

As someone who's struggled with depression for many years, communication is frequently difficult. You suffer from frequent thoughts of worthlessness, a lack of desire to achieve goals, and so much stress. Depressive episodes can be frequent and last for weeks or even months depending on how you choose to deal with it; many people with depression prefer to suffer in silence. It's during these times that you need to remove yourself from the rest of the world and retreat inside yourself. The last thing I want to do when I'm depressed is call someone back, write an e-mail, or even send a brief text message. All of that communication takes energy, energy I'm busy using trying to crawl out of the darkness.

And my depression isn't even that severe. Now imagine being someone with severe depression, or multiple competing mental illnesses. Imagine being a perfectionist (due to OCD or otherwise) and thinking, "Man, I'm never gonna finish this project, or even a first release, because it's taking so much of my energy to even function sometimes. I feel worthless", and then receiving tons of death threats or shit posts bashing your lack of work literally ON A DAILY BASIS. All of this negativity is just feeding his own thoughts of worthlessness, which is only going to make the developer retreat even further into himself than before.

In short, it's the drama on threads like this, Discord, or even Patreon that's been slowing down work on this project. Think about it. Would you want to work on something where people are on your case daily to actually release some content? Where your own self-doubts are being confirmed by random strangers on the internet? Some people just don't know how to compartmentalize and separate thoughts from facts.

On the one hand, there's the unattainable desire for perfection and the fear of failing to please everyone. On the other, there's the shit talk and death threats for not releasing the content you already have done and fear of failing to please anyone.

We're all intelligent enough to realize that Psychodelusional has a real communication problem. All I'm trying to do is illustrate another perspective for why. It's likely not as simple as a greedy developer for two major reasons: 1) his income on Patreon isn't enough to survive off of; and 2) a lot of that suspected income is taken away for fees, taxes, fraudulent/reversed credit card charges, etc.
 

Ethanhunt99

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dont like to be that guy or even to talk down on him but seriously.. how hard is it to make a trailer for a sex game... thats what it is at the end of the day, a SEX GAME! it does not need to look like a christopher nolan movie trailer just toss in a couple clips from the prolog or something, some renders and boom, insert title here! side note.. yall heard about lewdlab makin a definitive edition or whatever it is called of dreams of desire!? now thats something i can get by. and he said its gonna have around 400 animations. thats just nuts, hes been running his servers and computer for weeks on end and it has finished half of them i believe he said. nuts!
 

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Man, so many people here are pessimists haha.

Look, I get it. I've been waiting for this game almost since the teaser images were first released. It's irritating to have such incredible potential wasted with nothing to show for it for such a long time. That said, most of you seem to have no idea what it's like to deal with a mental illness (well, at least one you're aware of).

As someone who's struggled with depression for many years, communication is frequently difficult. You suffer from frequent thoughts of worthlessness, a lack of desire to achieve goals, and so much stress. Depressive episodes can be frequent and last for weeks or even months depending on how you choose to deal with it; many people with depression prefer to suffer in silence. It's during these times that you need to remove yourself from the rest of the world and retreat inside yourself. The last thing I want to do when I'm depressed is call someone back, write an e-mail, or even send a brief text message. All of that communication takes energy, energy I'm busy using trying to crawl out of the darkness.

And my depression isn't even that severe. Now imagine being someone with severe depression, or multiple competing mental illnesses. Imagine being a perfectionist (due to OCD or otherwise) and thinking, "Man, I'm never gonna finish this project, or even a first release, because it's taking so much of my energy to even function sometimes. I feel worthless", and then receiving tons of death threats or shit posts bashing your lack of work literally ON A DAILY BASIS. All of this negativity is just feeding his own thoughts of worthlessness, which is only going to make the developer retreat even further into himself than before.

In short, it's the drama on threads like this, Discord, or even Patreon that's been slowing down work on this project. Think about it. Would you want to work on something where people are on your case daily to actually release some content? Where your own self-doubts are being confirmed by random strangers on the internet? Some people just don't know how to compartmentalize and separate thoughts from facts.

On the one hand, there's the unattainable desire for perfection and the fear of failing to please everyone. On the other, there's the shit talk and death threats for not releasing the content you already have done and fear of failing to please anyone.

We're all intelligent enough to realize that Psychodelusional has a real communication problem. All I'm trying to do is illustrate another perspective for why. It's likely not as simple as a greedy developer for two major reasons: 1) his income on Patreon isn't enough to survive off of; and 2) a lot of that suspected income is taken away for fees, taxes, fraudulent/reversed credit card charges, etc.
I hope he will get better, if he is indeed honest about his ailments. But the problem is that he keeps taking people's money. If he announced that he would stop all payments until he releases v0.1, I wouldn't say anything. Look at Braindrop of WVM. He made over $10 000 each month, yet he paused payments for I think 6 months in a row when he was in a bad place and couldn't release the update. He gave up well over $60 000 in that time. That's how you do it if you want to be honest and fair to people supporting you. Hats off to Braindrop.

If psychodelusional wants to feel relief, then he should pause the monthly billing until he has released something that people can play. If he doesn't, too much points to scam and people will keep yelling at him.
 

speedballz

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Man, so many people here are pessimists haha.

Look, I get it. I've been waiting for this game almost since the teaser images were first released. It's irritating to have such incredible potential wasted with nothing to show for it for such a long time. That said, most of you seem to have no idea what it's like to deal with a mental illness (well, at least one you're aware of).

As someone who's struggled with depression for many years, communication is frequently difficult. You suffer from frequent thoughts of worthlessness, a lack of desire to achieve goals, and so much stress. Depressive episodes can be frequent and last for weeks or even months depending on how you choose to deal with it; many people with depression prefer to suffer in silence. It's during these times that you need to remove yourself from the rest of the world and retreat inside yourself. The last thing I want to do when I'm depressed is call someone back, write an e-mail, or even send a brief text message. All of that communication takes energy, energy I'm busy using trying to crawl out of the darkness.

And my depression isn't even that severe. Now imagine being someone with severe depression, or multiple competing mental illnesses. Imagine being a perfectionist (due to OCD or otherwise) and thinking, "Man, I'm never gonna finish this project, or even a first release, because it's taking so much of my energy to even function sometimes. I feel worthless", and then receiving tons of death threats or shit posts bashing your lack of work literally ON A DAILY BASIS. All of this negativity is just feeding his own thoughts of worthlessness, which is only going to make the developer retreat even further into himself than before.

In short, it's the drama on threads like this, Discord, or even Patreon that's been slowing down work on this project. Think about it. Would you want to work on something where people are on your case daily to actually release some content? Where your own self-doubts are being confirmed by random strangers on the internet? Some people just don't know how to compartmentalize and separate thoughts from facts.

On the one hand, there's the unattainable desire for perfection and the fear of failing to please everyone. On the other, there's the shit talk and death threats for not releasing the content you already have done and fear of failing to please anyone.

We're all intelligent enough to realize that Psychodelusional has a real communication problem. All I'm trying to do is illustrate another perspective for why. It's likely not as simple as a greedy developer for two major reasons: 1) his income on Patreon isn't enough to survive off of; and 2) a lot of that suspected income is taken away for fees, taxes, fraudulent/reversed credit card charges, etc.
Ok so i agree with you on just 1 thing mental illness is a real threat , however more and more developers get "depression" and "anxiety" and yet none of them come out with seeking treatment and yet after all the delays they don't offer any sort of explanation.
If what you say is true he would have paused his patreon on the first deadline he missed make a post that he has depression/anxiety and that he is seeking help and ppl would have understood, however up until this point the only thing he managed to do is take people for a ride adn then come up with the most common excuse there is nowadays.
Actually i'm calling bullshit on any mental illness he says he has he is just a greedy fuck.
Also people can live off 500 euro/dolars per month depending on where they live i am considered middle class and get a little bit more than 1000 euro per month in my country because i own my own apartment/car.
So yeah just stop simping for him please he has no fucking excuse
 
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Ok so i agree with you on just 1 thing mental illness is a real threat , however more and more developers get "depression" and "anxiety" and yet none of them come out with seeking treatment and yet after all the delays they don't offer any sort of explanation.
If what you say is true he would have paused his patreon on the first deadline he missed make a post that he has depression/anxiety and that he is seeking help and ppl would have understood, however up until this point the only thing he managed to do is take people for a ride adn then come up with the most common excuse there is nowadays.
Actually i'm calling bullshit on any mental illness he says he has he is just a greedy fuck.
Also people can live off 500 euro/dolars per month depending on where they live i am considered middle class and get a little bit more than 1000 euro per month in my country because i own my own apartment/car.
So yeah just stop simping for him please he has no fucking excuse
Well, we can't assume where he lives. What we do know based on his last project is that he seems to have a solid grasp on English, meaning it's likely that English is his first language or that he is at least very fluent in it. But even that can mean a lot of different things (an American who moved to southern Europe, for example). I'm just saying that there are a ton of developed countries in which $1000 (minus fees, taxes, fraudulent charges, etc.) doesn't even cover your rent, let alone the rest of your bills and disposable income.

Also, I'm not really disagreeing with anyone here. I think it's disgusting that people like Gumdrop are able to earn a living for doing nothing. Should Psychodelusional have paused his Patreon funds? Absolutely. The problem is more based on the people donating to these game developers. Maybe some people have thousands of dollars to throw away, maybe they're incredibly naive, maybe they genuinely want to support his future... who knows? Psychodelusional hadn't released an update in three months. You'd think his patrons would get the hint by now, but they didn't.

I'm not "simping for him", I'm just saying that greed is likely not much of a factor at all. But let's see if he delivers on his promise by the end of the month. If he makes more excuses, then we know he's completely full of shit.
 
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Well, we can't assume where he lives. What we do know based on his last project is that he seems to have a solid grasp on English, meaning it's likely that English is his first language or that he is at least very fluent in it. But even that can mean a lot of different things (an American who moved to southern Europe, for example). I'm just saying that there are a ton of developed countries in which $1000 (minus fees, taxes, fraudulent charges, etc.) doesn't even cover your rent, let alone the rest of your bills and disposable income.

Also, I'm not really disagreeing with anyone here. I think it's disgusting that people like Gumdrop are able to earn a living for doing nothing. Should Psychodelusional have paused his Patreon funds? Absolutely. The problem is more based on the people donating to these game developers. Maybe some people have thousands of dollars to throw away, maybe they're incredibly naive, maybe they genuinely want to support his future... who knows? Psychodelusional hadn't released an update in three months. You'd think his patrons would get the hint by now, but they didn't.

I'm not "simping for him", I'm just saying that greed is likely not much of a factor at all. But let's see if he delivers on his promise by the end of the month. If he makes more excuses, then we know he's completely full of shit.
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But why is this month's deadline any more important to you in believing him than all of the previous (missed) deadlines over the past two years? Just generally curious about the thought process, that's all.
 
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