I thought my comments were rather mild, actually. Expectations management is a big part of marketing subsidized games. On the one hand the visuals look gorgeous, the plot sounds interesting and the UI looks great. On the other hand a year has gone by and the first release isn't here yet. If you want to manage expectations, just say "I'm working really hard to make this the best it can be, and that takes a lot of time/I'm doing this in my spare time, so the best I can tell you is it will get done when it gets done. Thanks for your patronage, please be patient." I think most sophisticated gamers know that game development takes a fuckton of hard work and time. We get that. But if you're getting money coming in, you either need to lower expectations for imminent release, or you need to commit to a release date and just put it out, bugs and all. If it's a labor of love done for free, fuck it, who cares what people think. But the minute you solicit support, you have an obligation--not to the free-riding shmoes here(no offense guys) but to everyone donating 1, 10, 20 or 30 dollars a month towards your project--the same as the Renaissance artists of old had to placate their patrons who popped in to ask "Is it done yet? Is it done yet?"--either admit you have no clue when you'll be done, or commit to a release date.
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Ya i get where you're coming from, and you make a good point, however I was comparing CD Projekts Red to this Dev. team and one has a name and a rep your willing to wait for, they earned that. With that being said this Dev. team has yet to prove that they can deliver anything let alone finish it. That's one of the reasons why I'm cautious on who gets my $. If this Dev. team can make this game and take it to the end and give us a game worth our time and expectations then they won't have an issue getting people to give them $ for all future projects, however they need to not pull a NLT Dev. team and just claim that they are working on it, but nothing gets done or released / updated and just keep taking ppls money.
I mean, Dark Neighborhood was pretty well-received here.
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WebP is your friend. You can easily "compress" 4 GB of PNG or JPEG files down to 2 GB without significant quality drop.
Dev is a single guy, not a team.
NLT is another single guy with a bunch of testers and "story advisor".
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of course no body would mind to wait if the product is good but i think the people who are investing in it at least have a right to know by when the project will done 1mon, 2mons, 6 or 1yr or even 10yrs, because we are watching some clips of a game which nobody have any idea when gonna finished, people cant wait and invest like that, it's not practical.
The last time when he said it will take another 2-3 months it was april and it almost 3 months from then and no news from the dev since june 24th.
so you see that is the thing i am talking about
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Ok NOW it makes sense why NLT takes forever to get shit done... man he/she must be burned out by now... Dev.s need a team. I was planing of making a game but I realized how much work would be needed to get it done and I dont have the skills for it. (story and story ark is one thing, but graphics and programing / coding is way out of my skill set.) This Dev. must be grinding himself / herself to death to get this even close to launch. I kind of feel sorry for them.
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Rights??? Patrons literally have no rights at all. All they do is support something with their money. And maybe in return they get something, but there is no law or a regulation how this should look.
For a non supporter you talk big without knowing anything.
People? About which people are you talking about? You are not talking for everyone, because for me it looks you are the one you can't wait and demand a development schedule.
Whoever support him does it on their own free will with their own money. No one was forced or signed a contract which they can't leave.
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He invested time and money into his project. He learned and improved his RPG coding and art skills. Go and check out one of his early games "Visiting Aunt...something".
I guess he almost finished developing Lust Epidemic before he went public with it. Then he immediately started to work on ToN. The way NLT renders is also easier than what Psychodelusional, DrPinkCake and other devs do. You will notice it as soon as you decrypt/extract ToN's assets.
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hey at least he say it. Hes straight and its more important than fail the schedule.
If he keep talking to people what happen and what will come its cool
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if you think people pay 20 dollars each month for this long because they think may the dev is kind enough to give them something, you are fooling yourself dude no one else, money dont grows on trees and in this world nothing comes for free.
And neither i am a non supporter nor i am talking big without knowing, the thing is i was fan who can see the true facts now and the thing you said about patron supporting, may be read it on your pc online sitting on back chair but i am talking practical here.
of course, who support him do it from their own free will but if you think i am the only one who want a confirm date, you are wrong again pal.
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yeah but he dont talk now and even if he talks he straightly ignore the questions. the last time i talked about the release he said it will come soon enough.
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You didn't say anything about trailers you just said when they release news they're developing a game they also give release date which is incorrect because CDPR announced Cyberpunk 2077 closed to a decade ago without giving a release date until recently.
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This is what a patronage is. He/she/it (a patron) gives money away "for free". In ancient times only "wealthy" people were able to do it.. of course a burger flipper won't support an artist to create something if he won't get something in return for it.
From my own real life experience dealing with high tier patrons - on our dev teams discord server where I'm a Mod - I can tell you that high tier patrons don't care about release dates or any other sort of benefits in return for there patronage. Those guys are "loaded" and they don't know what to do with their money. On the other hand, the lower the tier the louder the group "demanding" something from the Dev.
I, for myself, wouldn't support someone before an actual release - as you said it yourself, money doesn't grow on trees.
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They are not very promising, I'm afraid: protesters are demanding that Lincoln statues be removed. Apparently such statues perpetuate racism.news?
This world is going down the shitter, I'm afraid. Our only hope is China will help us identify and neutralize all baizuos before it's too late, but it's quite unlikely they'll be willing to cooperate.
EDIT: Gross typo
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that is the thing dude.
i think you are smart enough to understand what i am talking about.
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