Same I was astonished when the prologue came out buthaving nothing since then makes you lose faith in this project. Any updates, a roadmap showing the progress until release, etc. would ease it but how can people support it if they need to be afraid it's gonna be abandoned... I like the game premise and hope they release an update soon but probably not gonna happen.
Just to explain why I think this will be abandoned. I didn't said it to offend the creators, since the game had a good start... and I really liked it.
But it had been 9 months since the game has been updated. (I think after 1 yr the game will automatically get the abandoned tag.) I've read your comments why it's delayed and stuff and I'm not saying you're lying, but there are so many developers thats exactly say the same thing and then the game gets abandoned. I think that most of the developers realizes that being financial independent by creating these games is a goal that is hard to hit and they lose the interest of creating more content. Or they delayed for so long that they lose interest in (the story of) the game and find another hobby or go for a whole new game. And ofcourse you have people like the infamous name Icstor who keeps milking his patron with promises he can't keep.
The history of creating games like these made me not to trust the developers and stop supporting patrons. Now I only buy games on Steam (to support the developers) when they are completed or when I think they are worth it (even incomplete).
Just for the record... I hope I'm wrong because I really liked the prologue.
Hey, MrDutch
Thank you for showing interest in my game !
Here are some clarifications that seemed appropriate to me.
So thank you again to all those who follow me and especially to those who support me financially or psychologically through the many positive and interesting messages that I regularly see on this forum.
Thank you for showing interest in my game !
Here are some clarifications that seemed appropriate to me.
I understand you perfectly and you seem to have a lot of experience in this kind of game, but yeah, you are wrong.
Being financially independent is still my goal and indeed I haven't achieved it yet. But the only impact it has on the game is that it slows down my production pace as I have to juggle my other work and other obligations.
So no, I haven't lost my interest like the other creators you refer to. Maybe because Apocalypse Lovers was my universe before being an adult game. I've been developing my own lore for ten years now. This game is just a way to communicate that and it doesn't even scratch the surface of the cohesive and complex universe I've developed over the years. So I'm not going to “lose my interest in history” now that I have people who are interested in my work.
So thank you again to all those who follow me and especially to those who support me financially or psychologically through the many positive and interesting messages that I regularly see on this forum.
Man I am on this website for a long time I haven't played a game like this it's like somebody has took every horny person dream and made it a game bro I don't comment much on this website but this game had made me too comment and express my love for it I can't financial support you for now because patreon don't support UPI but i hope you update this game I don't want it to be abandoned and I promise in future I will try to support you financial
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I think the beginning searching through the darkness sandbox mode is too confusing. Maybe adding a VN mode would be better? Or at least those tiny windows representing the places to explore that exist in some games would be better instead of the 'go left', 'go right', 'go back' thing.
For the most part I liked your prologue. Your story feels unique and well written but was way too short for me to decide. One glaring question that I hope gets answered quickly. Who locked Jessica in the basement, left the key in a box in the bedroom and never came back? That just seems crazy.
I looked at your Patreon site to try to get an idea when there will be an update and I am confused. It looks like you finished Episode 1 Chapter 1 in October or November and started work on Episode 1 Chapter 2 in November and are still working on it as we speak. If Chapter 1 is done why isn't it being released? Do you feel it is not complete enough to be released without additional chapters and if so what point are you waiting for? There's lots of people interested but without news their attention will slowly wander away.
I like your game concept but I had to use the mod and the written walkthrough to navigate the game to my satisfaction and I am still a bit confused as to what some of the variables actually mean in terms of how they effect gameplay. Maybe a bit of explanation of what our choices mean in the long run and some tweeking of the user interface. Like many I am unsure about the sandbox but am willing to wait to find out how you are implementing it. The bottom line will be whether it makes the game more enjoyable or not.
I am very concerned about your lack of future tags. You said that you don't know yet. We've seen a lot of games go off the rails because they didn't have a vision of what they wanted their game to be and many others who sold out for a quick buck and alienated their intended audience.
I support creators who are talented, give me complete choice over the kinks I experience and who's work I love. You have been clear that this is more than just a financial venture for you which is a very good sign. I will not support you however until you give us an idea of what kind of kinks you will have in mind for us down the road.
Let me give you an example. You threw in a voyeur scene which I was able to avoid. For me those type of scenes as a turnoff. I would just go search for online porn if I wanted that. The plus is that you made it easily identifiable as such and I had a clear choice to avoid it. Seemed like wasted content or an attempt to put early sexual content into the game, even though the plot didn't call for it yet. I like to be romantically involved with my Li's which makes their sexual content mean something to me and as such I don't ever want my Li's to be sexually involved with each other or anyone else. Some people like bi-sexual action in their harem. Some creators give us no choice in the matter because it is more work than they want to put into the game or it is their personal kink. All of the creator's I sub to make this content optional so that those that want it can have it and for those like me it never happened.
You intend to have two distinct paths (I am assuming) for every girl and I can see it is possible to have more. I intend to play the love path because that matches my personality. You give us choice which is exactly what I want. I actually am fine with almost any kink in the game as long as it is optional but knowing what you intend (future tags) and whether they are optional gives us an idea of what the majority of the sexual content will be like and if it matches our interest. There was one creator that I stopped subbing to because even though everything was optional, so much of their content became things I wasn't interested in that, there wasn't enough content left for me to be satisfied.
I get that you might not want to commit at this point to what kinks you will include in your game but look at how many people already misinterpreted your voyeur scene as possible NTR. That is probably the most polarizing subject on this site. Most people aren't going to read the forums, they will just scan the tags and jump to conclusions. Think about what you will enjoy writing about and creating scenes for. Then at the very least put out a list of future tags that you know you will want and especially one's you will not put in your game. You can always add to the list later. We already get the vibe that this is going to be a harem game, why not confirm it? The more information you give the easier it will be for your intended audience to find your game and the less controversy you will see in the forums. I've even seen some developers write a few paragraphs about their intentions in the developer's notes. Nothing create more chaos than a lack of information when people are looking for it. We have all been burned in the past and we want to believe in you. Nothing says future "abandoned tag" more than indecisiveness. Write what you love and you can't go wrong.
I want you to succeed and I am just waiting for the next update to get a taste of what you have planned.
I looked at your Patreon site to try to get an idea when there will be an update and I am confused. It looks like you finished Episode 1 Chapter 1 in October or November and started work on Episode 1 Chapter 2 in November and are still working on it as we speak. If Chapter 1 is done why isn't it being released? Do you feel it is not complete enough to be released without additional chapters and if so what point are you waiting for? There's lots of people interested but without news their attention will slowly wander away.
I like your game concept but I had to use the mod and the written walkthrough to navigate the game to my satisfaction and I am still a bit confused as to what some of the variables actually mean in terms of how they effect gameplay. Maybe a bit of explanation of what our choices mean in the long run and some tweeking of the user interface. Like many I am unsure about the sandbox but am willing to wait to find out how you are implementing it. The bottom line will be whether it makes the game more enjoyable or not.
I am very concerned about your lack of future tags. You said that you don't know yet. We've seen a lot of games go off the rails because they didn't have a vision of what they wanted their game to be and many others who sold out for a quick buck and alienated their intended audience.
I support creators who are talented, give me complete choice over the kinks I experience and who's work I love. You have been clear that this is more than just a financial venture for you which is a very good sign. I will not support you however until you give us an idea of what kind of kinks you will have in mind for us down the road.
Let me give you an example. You threw in a voyeur scene which I was able to avoid. For me those type of scenes as a turnoff. I would just go search for online porn if I wanted that. The plus is that you made it easily identifiable as such and I had a clear choice to avoid it. Seemed like wasted content or an attempt to put early sexual content into the game, even though the plot didn't call for it yet. I like to be romantically involved with my Li's which makes their sexual content mean something to me and as such I don't ever want my Li's to be sexually involved with each other or anyone else. Some people like bi-sexual action in their harem. Some creators give us no choice in the matter because it is more work than they want to put into the game or it is their personal kink. All of the creator's I sub to make this content optional so that those that want it can have it and for those like me it never happened.
You intend to have two distinct paths (I am assuming) for every girl and I can see it is possible to have more. I intend to play the love path because that matches my personality. You give us choice which is exactly what I want. I actually am fine with almost any kink in the game as long as it is optional but knowing what you intend (future tags) and whether they are optional gives us an idea of what the majority of the sexual content will be like and if it matches our interest. There was one creator that I stopped subbing to because even though everything was optional, so much of their content became things I wasn't interested in that, there wasn't enough content left for me to be satisfied.
I get that you might not want to commit at this point to what kinks you will include in your game but look at how many people already misinterpreted your voyeur scene as possible NTR. That is probably the most polarizing subject on this site. Most people aren't going to read the forums, they will just scan the tags and jump to conclusions. Think about what you will enjoy writing about and creating scenes for. Then at the very least put out a list of future tags that you know you will want and especially one's you will not put in your game. You can always add to the list later. We already get the vibe that this is going to be a harem game, why not confirm it? The more information you give the easier it will be for your intended audience to find your game and the less controversy you will see in the forums. I've even seen some developers write a few paragraphs about their intentions in the developer's notes. Nothing create more chaos than a lack of information when people are looking for it. We have all been burned in the past and we want to believe in you. Nothing says future "abandoned tag" more than indecisiveness. Write what you love and you can't go wrong.
I want you to succeed and I am just waiting for the next update to get a taste of what you have planned.
You shouldn’t. Let me explain why.
First, if this wasn’t obvious, I have a clear vision of what I’m doing now and what the game will look like in the future.
What you might have taken as indecision about 'kinks' is actually just an open mind about the possible implementation of small avoidable bonuses throughout the story and intended for a particular audience.
What you need to understand is that Apocalypse Lovers is a story before being an adult game. This doesn't mean that there will be less adult content than other games of the genre, but this universe existed in my mind even before I chose to express it on this medium. That being said, scenes with contents of a sexual nature are an addition to the story ! They are meant to reinforce it with realistic and believable immersion which support the storyline and character development.
Sex scene initially planned and those coming with the next update are quite simple (mostly mainstream, I suppose) and they are mainly structured around the first female character who is sexually inexperienced: discovery of carnal pleasure, masturbation, fellatio, defloration and so on. Also, some sexual specificities which will be approached differently or just alone, depending on the chosen path (submission/initiative) for this character.
Submission: punishment, spanking, deepthroat, sodomy, rough sex, cum in mouth.
Initiative: sexual massage ; tender sex ; sex food ; quick sex, sexual game.
As you rightly pointed out, I may intend to add kinks that were not intended because of the influence the community had on me. I try to listen to you guys without distorting my own vision. That's what gave rise to the voyeurism scene to which you referred. Indeed, this scene was not originally planned, it was born for multiple reasons:
- Technical opportunity: got a bathroom model with both damaged and pristine texture at the same time, allowing an interesting flashback which recall the evolution of the apocalyptic world.
- Community demand for diverse and varied sex scene : I got serveral personal message for this kind of content from my best supporters.
- The need to add sexual scenes earlier in the story, as I tended to forget that I had to cut the narration by some adult content a little more frequently so as not to stay too long without a bit of hot render.
So one might think that this scene does not have its place and seems a little disconnected, I understand it perfectly, there is some truth in it. However, I still used this to convey messages I wanted about the main story. We can learn more about the extreme bond of brotherhood that existed between the character played by the player (MC) and Lewis (the father of the main female character). I also took the opportunity to allow you to learn more about Anna (the mother of the main female character), while also adding some humor. But this voyeurism scene, which even dangerously flirts with scatophilia at times, is indeed not the deep soul of Apocalypse Lovers, there is no doubt about that. It is a small branch that was born to serve a particular interest and then disappeared, returning to the sordid hell from which it came.
So have no fear, everything will be optional. The less widespread the kink, the further it will be from the main plot and will remain an anectodic arc, like the scene mentioned above.
Thus, never will the main character be forced to follow a guideline including a specific kink that potentially disgusts the player. The game does not include a script element making the appearance of a very specific sexual scene mandatory: like being sodomized by bandits, for example. Some scene that will be mandatory for the progress of the story may contain sexual content, but nothing too eclectic, and if this should occur, there will always be possibilities to avoid it. I am well aware of this.
That being said, since this is my universe, my own view of the world and my own preferences, I can give you now some indication of what content is already planned and what is not. (not specifically for the next update, but in general).
Kinks/Genre that will never take place in Apocalypse Lovers :
- sexual intercourse between two men
- rape of a male protagonist
- Scatophilia & Coprophilia
- male sodomy (with tools)
- transgender & transvestite
- child pornography (under legal age, male and female)
- zoophilia
- hard sadomasochism with a male as victim (like Cock and Ball Torture)
Kinks/Genre that are highly likely to appear next in Apocalypse Lovers :
(some will be avoidable)
- Threesome (FF + MC, we need to repopulate the earth afterall)
- One night stand
- Sleep sex
- Scopophilia
- Prostitution related sex & Sexual bargaining
- Old-young porn (all characters involved will be of legal age, obviously)
- Mutiple female partner (not necessary all involved in the same action)
- Harem (kind of)
- Marriage (yes this is a kink for some person!)
- Drunk sex & Incouscious sex
- Female rape or torture (not especially seen in render and not from the MC, because this game is not a Rape/torture glorification but the MC might witness some of this deviant behavior along his journey)
Kinks/Genre that might appear or are unlikely to appear in Apocalypse Lovers :
(all will be avoidable)
- Sex with pregnant women
- Spying and masturbating
- Urophilia & Golden Shower
- Sharing a girl (MMF sex scene)
- Orgy
- Necrophilia
- Other kinks I didn't think about or I didn't know yet
I also know that I have a limited time to write, code and produce images, so maybe not all of these kinks will see the light of day, only some of them. That's why I plan to do patreon polls soon that will help me make decisions between two difficult choices and direct me to certain specific scenes based on my contributors majority preferences.
But what is certain is that I would do above all what pleases me, because listening too much to others means taking a double risk : either the risk of making me lose my motivation by forcing me to code scenes that include content that I don't like myself, or even worse, taking the risk of distorting the very spirit of Apocalypse Lovers.
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Thank you for taking the time to reply. I really like what you have communicated and I can tell that your art is going to be different than most of what we see here. I am very much looking forward to the release of ch.2.
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It is very understandable that personal situations slow down development. After all, it's just a game.
Though i wished there were something.
I will still keep an eye on it as i like how the game is presented.
As a side note.
I was thinking once to do a game as well and i know that i could puke my brains out over DAZ. Even though it's relatively easy to do but it's very time consuming. I came to the conclusion it isn't worth it. So i applaud anyone who actually "does" develop a game in his or her spare time.
I will be curious to see how the game will develop over time. As a none paying person my voice probably doesn't matter but this is what i think.
Though i wished there were something.
I will still keep an eye on it as i like how the game is presented.
As a side note.
I was thinking once to do a game as well and i know that i could puke my brains out over DAZ. Even though it's relatively easy to do but it's very time consuming. I came to the conclusion it isn't worth it. So i applaud anyone who actually "does" develop a game in his or her spare time.
I will be curious to see how the game will develop over time. As a none paying person my voice probably doesn't matter but this is what i think.
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my only 2 requests:
No NTR & No beastality, please.
there's more than enough NTR material, like NTRMAN stories etc.
and beastality is pretty disgusting, got more then enough of it.
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you see come inside were a game where it was closer to what might had happend in real life probably the dev felt so
and he stop The Models SO AWESOME the Story SO GREAT sadly he left it
Something about Mother Get to close to her son and kinda used him when he was younger with the name of Love something closer to that so he couldn't forgive her and ofc you pick if the mc still think about her or nha