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VN Ren'Py Artemis [v0.6.2b] [digi.B]

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pitao

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xapican said:
Where did this Aiden doesn't trust Kindra came from ? by the way ?
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I have no idea and I'm already regretting by giving my 2 cents on it hahaha because it is a pointless discussion that goes nowhere with 2 or more different points of view that will never agree with each other besides to agree to disagree and longer it goes nastier will become. Well anyway I won't feed this discussion anymore :LOL:.
 
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Krytax123 said:
I already said that i dont think its a big deal in the avn even if i would prefer it a bit different but im allowed to give an answer to a stupid statement like "everyone who wants some established rules regarding a groundbreaking crazy project is kinda adolescent and youre a better human being if you just do what your emotions (or lazyness) tell you" lol

And its not related to "our society today" as the user claimed, they did stuff like that already in rome and earlier.

Telling people they should just start to become "good people" and get over "their trust issues and work on themself" and if they are unable to achieve that, they are adolescent no matter what happened to them is such a fucked up mindest and so far away from being "a good person" ... (this was another poster whose way worse).

Maccabbee morally upstanding solution to treat people with depression is to tell them to "get over it" and otherwise they are adolescent :LOL: and he sees himself as a good guy for this opinion lmao

Just a little example how emotions/feelings are very different from person to person and therefore established rules and guidelines are necessary.

And i hate the "this is sci-fi (or fantasy) therefore is no need for realism" argument with every fiber of my being or would you be fine with aiden riding flying unicorns instead of driving cars? Doesnt matter there are androis too right?

Edit: pitao i did not mean to imply that everyone not considering stuff like that is stupid or illogical. Its always good to have some safety nets but of course not always necessary. But this isnt about doing your buddy a favor or even giving him a loan, its a groundbreaking scientific achievment and lots of people will try to get their hands on this stuff from out and inside the company.

Imo its more about fighting for Artemis rights and her future than about being egoistic or greedy.

But maybe Aiden just doesnt have a lot of agency and is fine with whatever Kindra may decides, thats a possibility too.

Edit 2: i will shut up about this stuff now, this topic has overstayed its time and is really not important enough and i think people start to get annoyed :LOL:
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I didn't say that. I said that it's not necessary to seek realism in every sentence or behavior. Realism. Realism in relation to what? For whom? This is very relative. It depends on where you live, how you are used to living, what experiences you have had. The realism of an American is very different from the realism of a Greek or the realism of a Chilean.
 
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Krytax123 said:
Its from their partner talk but its not about Aiden not trusting kindra but about his trust issues in general. I would assume theres nobody he trusts more than kindra but June and maaaybe Claire.
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I think, Aiden has more of a trauma, than trust issues, for example I interpreted his rejection of a partship, as a "logical" result of his strained selfesteem, feeling himself not worthy, to get the 50%, sure there are more personal factor influencing his decision. As you pointed out already.
 
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xapican said:
I think, Aiden has more of a trauma, than trust issues, for example I interpreted his rejection of a partship, as a "logical" result of his strained selfesteem, feeling himself not worthy, to get the 50%, sure there are more personal factor influencing his decision. As you pointed out already.
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That could play a big factor too (maybe even the main one) yeah, tried to take a closer at the scene again just now but all my savegames this early are borked :cautious: his confidence has definitely crumbled.

I suspected that in a earlier post too, that he may doesnt deem himself worthy enough to demand rights for himself which may could be something Claire could still help him with. This could explain why he may doesnt want to be responsible for decisions regarding Artemis future as he figures his decisions are shitty and kindra knows best anyway lol
 
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Krytax123 said:
Edit: @pitao i did not mean to imply that everyone not considering stuff like that is stupid or illogical. Its always good to have some safety nets but of course not always necessary. But this isnt about doing your buddy a favor or even giving him a loan, its a groundbreaking scientific achievment and lots of people will try to get their hands on this stuff from out and inside the company.
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Don't worry it wasn't you who said it was stupid and illogical, I respect the way you argument even though I don't agree with all of it. It was the member I originally quoted on my first post about it (I backtracked to the first post they did on the topic and quoted it) and the post that says stupid and illogical was what triggered Maccabbee to mention the "emotional adolescence" post haha. Anyway just wanted to assure you it wasn't you I was mentioning, moving on----dead topic for me.
 
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light4dmin2 said:
But the rights won't matter to modders ? Being a Dik has music restoration mods.

Is there a older version that I can play, with full music, before they were removed ?
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Not that I know, but maybe someone has it and shares
 
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pitao said:
I really didn't saw it like that, Aiden has trust issues on the part when he is officially sharing "ownership" of a work project because of what happened with Cassandra, that is what is his afraid of and what triggers the anxiety, to be stabbed in the back again in a partnership where both parties are more than just business partners with no emotional entanglements.

It is not a materialistic concern or of possession because what I see is that there is really genuine trust between them and he knows even without an official ownership on Artemis or the code etc etc that Kindra will always trust and involve him on whatever THEY decide for Artemis and their work together. He is just afraid that if the status quo between them change (being official and legally partners) that it triggers his past trauma and afraid that will happen again.

Anyway maybe my point of view is wrong (or I couldn't put in words what I really think and took about this topic) or old fashioned and probably I'm naive (or even stupid) for this world because I'm much alike Aiden in that regard, care more with emotional connections and doing the right thing than materialistic/ownership connections.
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Come now, being selfless is not stupid; it is OK if you enjoy doing things without any monetary gain. Apologize if my posts gave you such impression.

Problem of our -at least for me- argument is rejecting partnership but accepting working as employee. So, it is totally OK by me if he says something like "K; I don't want anything, just let me stay here and feed me sometimes. That is all I ask.".
 
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warmonster said:
There's a lot of missing images in ch2
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I replayed it from the beginning and didn't notice any anomalies. the only thing that bothered me was that living in a lame place it took me 12 hours to download it. Which makes me think, when we get to the end in 18 years, if I'm still alive, how long will it take me? I don't plan to transfer.

And then in 18 years will I still get hard?
 
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Always seem to end up with whatever version the fucking patch won't fix.

All this bullshit with making retroactive changes for Steam releases is getting fucking annoying. At least the third major, mature VN this has happened with for me.

Fortunately, I saved by chapter and was able to open saves as of the beginning of chapter 5, and those are playing, and allowing me to skip through without a problem

More time fucking wasted because of retroactive shit caused by Steam...
 
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So I just started Chapter 4. digi.B I swear to all that is holy in this world, if you kill off the dog...... Imma do something. Not exactly sure what, but something.
 
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