manscout

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leveling and boosting xp, changes the girls ability. Is that a bug?
Boosting xp costs sanity, if a girl gets to 0 sanity she can't be the leader anymore and is forced into an ability that is usually something opposite of what she is normally good at. Also just participating in fights also costs a bit of sanity for a girl.

You can recover sanity by buying a new ability for the girl (+10 sanity), or by letting them rest during a fight (don't assign them to fight any of the demons, +15 sanity). But you also need low sanity to unlock their solo route scenes, so up to you if you want to keep their sanity high, or lower it without letting it hit zero, or finding a way to just play with that girl at 0 sanity.
 
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Apollo Seven

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Is this game disney style for porn? All characters are f woke.
People have said this before and I have no idea what they mean. How are the characters woke? Is it because some of them are black and brown? Social issues are never talked about in the game ever as far as I can recall. They don't talk about civil rights, or oppression, or religion or anything.

Could someone explain to me what is woke about the game? I seriously have no idea haha.
 

Jenni55

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My feedback:
- Every attack has some sort of delay or pause, makes it unbearably long
- The game is not snappy enough like battle pets
- Eye prediction button stutters before showing numbers ( better remove it and just show the predicted result after assigning character to the monster)
- Feels like characters and mosnters are from different games. Art direction is lacking in this regard
- A lot of unused space around the characters in the battle
- Character dialogue during fight doesn't have to stop the next attack. It have to be played during animation , not between them


Overall a great game and concept! Wouldlike to see more! Best developer on this website I would say
 
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People have said this before and I have no idea what they mean. How are the characters woke? Is it because some of them are black and brown? Social issues are never talked about in the game ever as far as I can recall. They don't talk about civil rights, or oppression, or religion or anything.

Could someone explain to me what is woke about the game? I seriously have no idea haha.
No you got it. To some people just having someone be non white makes them "woke".
 

Umbra.Nox

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People have said this before and I have no idea what they mean. How are the characters woke? Is it because some of them are black and brown? Social issues are never talked about in the game ever as far as I can recall. They don't talk about civil rights, or oppression, or religion or anything.

Could someone explain to me what is woke about the game? I seriously have no idea haha.
Usually wokeness means all that you've said, plus intentional inclusivity for inclusivity sakes, or when characters are "unique" in a way that's usually depicted as a good way to be unique. For example her, people may think of her as smart, confident, colored, successful and overcoming, which is a suspicious set of qualities for them.

Just so we're clear, i don't say the characters or her are woke, i'm just explaining how i understand they see wokeness in them. Many wouldn't see some unique character in this, they will see her as a usual woke combination of qualities. And no, don't even think about precise terms, people don't use this word with the exact term in mind, at least not the term i know of.
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Moreover, even the artstyle itself can be tied to author's opinion. People can detect it, automatically comparing this with the artstyle they know is used by the group of people they dislike. But all that actually matters is that you're not doing anything they're accusing you of doing, so that their accusations will go nowhere. It shouldn't be a problem, especially since you're not some big corporation that can't be bothered to answer back.
 

hedat

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Could someone explain to me what is woke about the game? I seriously have no idea haha.
Let me be blunt:
Your characters look like characters from other games that people call woke.
Fetishes in this game look like a set of fetishes from other games that people call woke.
People itt will cope and try to rationalise why its wrong and not true. It may be not true, but it looks like it.
You "mixed strong distilled achohol with bitter soda, and wonder why people call it a Gin&tonic".
 
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manscout

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People have said this before and I have no idea what they mean. How are the characters woke? Is it because some of them are black and brown? Social issues are never talked about in the game ever as far as I can recall. They don't talk about civil rights, or oppression, or religion or anything.

Could someone explain to me what is woke about the game? I seriously have no idea haha.
Literally the only 2 things I can think of:

1. The artstyle for the girls is very cutesy (which is the whole point since the contrast of the "cute girls" with the "eldritch abominations" is the entire visual style of the game), but it is cute in a "western cartoon" style instead of "eastern anime". Some people get some weird hangups about "cute and colorful young women" being depicted in a cartoon artstyle while eating that stuff up if it is done in a more anime or chibi artstyle.

2. Some pavlovian levels of aversion to any kind of diversity. It is not even predominant in the game, but you have enough characters with different looks that stand out: Tamara is a wholesome cute nerdy black lesbian (and the hairstyle might have made some people associate her with the "Velma" design from that controversial scooby-doo spinoff), Dominique is chubby, Emma has her pink punk hairdo.

In theory those 3 characters could compose the entirety of a player's starting pool of choices, and that may just make too much of an impression on a certain type of people. You might think "but wait, even if those people consider the design of those characters to be 'hostile' to them for whatever reason, wouldn't they at least be tempted by the idea of seeing those characters corrupted and degraded, as is the entire plot of this porn game?", but like I said I think it is an automatic reaction, they would have seen these types of characters depicted in a cute manner and would imediatelly imagine it as a whole political statement in their minds and summarily decide the game is "bad" and "woke".

In short: idiots.
 

Apollo Seven

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Alright, I think I get it. I probably shouldn't have started this discussion, but I genuinely had no idea what people were talking about.
Usually wokeness means all that you've said, plus intentional inclusivity for inclusivity sakes, or when characters are "unique" in a way that's usually depicted as a good way to be unique. For example her, people may think of her as smart, confident, colored, successful and overcoming, which is a suspicious set of qualities for them.

Just so we're clear, i don't say the characters or her are woke, i'm just explaining how i understand they see wokeness in them. Many wouldn't see some unique character in this, they will see her as a usual woke combination of qualities. And no, don't even think about precise terms, people don't use this word with the exact term in mind, at least not the term i know of.
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Moreover, even the artstyle itself can be tied to author's opinion. People can detect it, automatically comparing this with the artstyle they know is used by the group of people they dislike. But all that actually matters is that you're not doing anything they're accusing you of doing, so that their accusations will go nowhere. It shouldn't be a problem, especially since you're not some big corporation that can't be bothered to answer back.
The funny thing about using Tamara as an example here is that her story is incredibly "unwoke". She's a black woman who learns to love bondage from her lighter-skinned lover, and is a lesbian that goes behind her girlfriend's back to get dick at one in one of her stories. It's borderline problematic.

Let me be blunt:
Your characters look like characters from other games that people call woke.
Fetishes in this game look like a set of fetishes from other games that people call woke.
People itt will cope and try to rationalise why its wrong and not true. It may be not true, but it looks like it.
You "mixed strong distilled achohol with bitter soda, and wonder why people call it a Gin&tonic".
See, this is not blunt at all. You're assuming I know this culture of what games people call woke and what fetishes people think are woke. Is cartoony character art just woke now? The game has like a dozen fetishes in it, variety is a core part of the game. I think there just isn't an actual answer and people are just using woke as some kind of vague term to mean stuff they don't like. I don't spend all that much time online apart from doing stuff with these games, so I'm probably just out of the loop.

Literally the only 2 things I can think of:

1. The artstyle for the girls is very cutesy (which is the whole point since the contrast of the "cute girls" with the "eldritch abominations" is the entire visual style of the game), but it is cute in a "western cartoon" style instead of "eastern anime". Some people get some weird hangups about "cute and colorful young women" being depicted in a cartoon artstyle while eating that stuff up if it is done in a more anime or chibi artstyle.

2. Some pavlovian levels of aversion to any kind of diversity. It is not even predominant in the game, but you have enough characters with different looks that stand out: Tamara is a wholesome cute nerdy black lesbian (and the hairstyle might have made some people associate her with the "Velma" design from that controversial scooby-doo spinoff), Dominique is chubby, Emma has her pink punk hairdo.

In theory those 3 characters could compose the entirety of a player's starting pool of choices, and that may just make too much of an impression on a certain type of people. You might think "but wait, even if those people consider the design of those characters to be 'hostile' to them for whatever reason, wouldn't they at least be tempted by the idea of seeing those characters corrupted and degraded, as is the entire plot of this porn game?", but like I said I think it is an automatic reaction, they would have seen these types of characters depicted in a cute manner and would imediatelly imagine it as a whole political statement in their minds and summarily decide the game is "bad" and "woke".

In short: idiots.
Yeah it sounds like it's something to do with the artstyle. The whole point of the aesthetic direction of the game is that the cute and colorful art of the girls clashes with the horror art of the main character. I guess people just don't get far enough to see the game is about the lives of these cute girls being corrupted and ruined and think it's an upbeat game with a queer theme or something? I'm just going to ignore it.
 

Umbra.Nox

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The funny thing about using Tamara as an example here is that her story is incredibly "unwoke". She's a black woman who learns to love bondage from her lighter-skinned lover, and is a lesbian that goes behind her girlfriend's back to get dick at one in one of her stories. It's borderline problematic.
Yeah, and since i know you from your two other games i am optimistic from the get-go. Others might not, and that's how some of them might see her from the screenshots.
 

hedat

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See, this is not blunt at all. You're assuming I know this culture of what games people call woke and what fetishes people think are woke. Is cartoony character art just woke now? The game has like a dozen fetishes in it, variety is a core part of the game. I think there just isn't an actual answer and people are just using woke as some kind of vague term to mean stuff they don't like. I don't spend all that much time online apart from doing stuff with these games, so I'm probably just out of the loop.
You're pulling my leg, right? No one can be that oblivious of their own actions.
I guess you are don't know about reverse inclusivity of porn games, despite you're making porn games and should be at least aware about it.
But you're making porn games that roughly follow "woke" zeitgeist in porn.
You see, it seems that you dig what lefty degenerates dig. Not what righty degenerates dig.
And even people here... well, look at their posts. Look at their knee jerk reactions.
Just accept it, its not like you'll be making anything for "another isle".
 

Apollo Seven

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You're pulling my leg, right? No one can be that oblivious of their own actions.
I guess you are don't know about reverse inclusivity of porn games, despite you're making porn games and should be at least aware about it.
But you're making porn games that roughly follow "woke" zeitgeist in porn.
You see, it seems that you dig what lefty degenerates dig. Not what righty degenerates dig.
And even people here... well, look at their posts. Look at their knee jerk reactions.
Just accept it, its not like you'll be making anything for "another isle".
What are you even talking about? It's just a porn game, there's none of these weird politics in it, at least not intentionally. You can read whatever you want into it though, that's how media works, my intention as the author isn't the final word on themes.
 

StapleComm

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What are you even talking about? It's just a porn game, there's none of these weird politics in it, at least not intentionally. You can read whatever you want into it though, that's how media works, my intention as the author isn't the final word on themes.
For these kinds of people just the existence of black people is political. Or gay people. If this wasn't a porn site then female protags would also be considered "woke". Fucking clowns
 
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It's telling that the people bitching about "wokeness" in the game won't say what exactly it is.

"The art style looks like the art style of woke games" - okay, so is the art style woke? Obviously not. It's an art style.
"It has the fetishes of woke games" - so which fetishes are those? No specificity because it's obviously hogwash.

It's just because some of them aren't white, it's that simple. Possibly exacerbated by some characters being a little chunky too. It's not worth worrying about or engaging with, it's just people whose politics have poisoned their brains.
 

Agent_Sloth

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So I snagged this game outta boredom over the weekend, and I just keep finding myself still playing it after I cleared through all the content, the stories and dialogue are honestly not bad, everyone has a solid voice, the gameplay could be a lot better but it's still oddly enjoyable and a fun way to kill some time while I'm working. Not bad, and I hope you keep building on the mechanics and adding more stories.
 

Microbaked

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Cuz I can't really tell from any of the Screenshots, is this Futa, or Trans?

It really bugs me that they mash those two together as the same thing on this site. The way the characters are written are, -more often then not-, completely different from one another. Not to mention- proportions, are also usually completely different. It's like saying Gay and Lesbian tags should be a singular tag that is just Gay/Lesbian. It's just same sex relations right?? No, very different viewership in most cases.
 

nulnil

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It really bugs me that they mash those two together as the same thing on this site. The way the characters are written are, -more often then not-, completely different from one another. Not to mention- proportions, are also usually completely different. It's like saying Gay and Lesbian tags should be a singular tag that is just Gay/Lesbian. It's just same sex relations right?? No, very different viewership in most cases.
Yeah, "trans", short for transition, implies a transition from one state to another. Futanari is just a girl with a penis. Even in the cases where it is [Gender] to Futa, a seperate tag would let you instantly know if there's futa involved or not.

Cuz I can't really tell from any of the Screenshots, is this Futa, or Trans?
IIRC there's a trap and they were planning on adding a futa some months ago. Might be in the game now.
 
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