Yes but a bit later. We're about two releases away from that aspect of the Polygamy route.
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Awesome, thanks for getting back to me. I was on the monogamy path pretty happily until I saw Penny doing her workout routine and I was like "damn! that little minx has a killer body". I like a girl with abs.
My only complaint with the game so far is that it ended.
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I am a pretty sensitive guy. Despite hanging around here, I am proud to call myself a feminist, where at least where I live, many women are hesitant to say that. To me, being a feminist means that all men and women should have the same opportunities, that gender discrimination should be made illegal and enforced, that both men and women should be paid the same for the same job, and that girls should be encouraged just as much as boys to enter higher paid professions like business and engineering.
The point I am making about all this, is that I am sensitive to womens' perspectives, and I would not be happy if a game made light of sexual assault or abuse. Some people are fine with it, and to them its just a game, but its not for me. I do not see the vibrator scene as making light of sexual abuse or not taking it seriously. Avalon is in favor of Byron's gift and she should be empowered to feel sexy and enticed by Byron's gift if she wants to.
Now, ultimately, I am still a man, so if there are any actual women out there in the Avalon thread, their perspective means a lot more than mine in this case. If there are any women that find the scene uncomfortable, I'd listen to their reasons and see what you think. Maybe they can convince you one way or the other.
Truly, the vibrator scene itself is pretty mild. Look at all the games here where the MC finds the sleeping LI and undresses her and touches her in her sleep. That is actual sexual assault, and I don't see these same people going to the hundreds of games here with sleep sexual assault and complaining there.
If you change this one scene, I am sure they will find something else to complain about. Maybe they'll say that Penny is unrealistic in her weirdness, or that Dallas is too forward with the MC, or that there is too much humor and that the characters should be more serious (I don't agree with any of this).
Ultimately, it's your game, so you should do what you think is best to make the game better. Is putting a choice before the scene something that will ruin the game? Of course not. I will play and support it no matter what you do, since I love what you have done so far, and I love each of your characters. I just don't know how you will do it where it falls seamlessly within the story, and if were me I would just not worry about a few people who aren't going to like your game anyway, even if you add a choice to this one scene.
Haha, that's great to hear! I'm so glad you've enjoyed it. But honestly, the Mono path is probably going to have the most action with Penny because she is the love interest for the side girls if they don't get to be with Byron and Avalon. And I'm not going to lie, Octavia is quite large compared to little Penny. And... it's hot.
The game might not directly incorporate anything sexual between Penny and Byron. That's just... a tricky monster there. But I'm going to start incorporating some 'Fantasy Scenes' that are not cannon to main story. So maybe in the future, we'll see something with Byron and Penny. We'll see!
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Mmm that's somewhat disappointing to hear to be honest. I can't really speak for others, but for me specifically if it doesn't involve the character I'm playing as I'm not really interested in the scene, it's actually why I decided to play the mono path and what prompted the question, it's also the reason I play these games instead of just watching random porn. And unfortunately for me it's the same with fantasy scenes, if it's not part of the story it's just a waste for me.Haha, that's great to hear! I'm so glad you've enjoyed it. But honestly, the Mono path is probably going to have the most action with Penny because she is the love interest for the side girls if they don't get to be with Byron and Avalon. And I'm not going to lie, Octavia is quite large compared to little Penny. And... it's hot.
The game might not directly incorporate anything sexual between Penny and Byron. That's just... a tricky monster there. But I'm going to start incorporating some 'Fantasy Scenes' that are not cannon to main story. So maybe in the future, we'll see something with Byron and Penny. We'll see!
As for the size difference, I hadn't really considered it, probably because we haven't actually seen Byron's junk yet, but if you need real world justification then just look at Shaquille o'neal and his wife.
Ah, sorry to hear that. But comments like yours I certainly take into consideration. And if more people advocate for a Byron / Penny scene, I'll certainly try to make it happen. I don't believe it would be too much of a stretch on the Poly path so.. it could happen!
Thank you for voicing your interest in a direction! That really helps me know what people want.
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Mmm, you're a good dev. Thanks for taking it into consideration, and taking into a account the jokes from the game I think it's time for a pun. While it may not be too much of a stretch on the Poly path, it might be a bit of a stretch for Penny!Ah, sorry to hear that. But comments like yours I certainly take into consideration. And if more people advocate for a Byron / Penny scene, I'll certainly try to make it happen. I don't believe it would be too much of a stretch on the Poly path so.. it could happen!
Thank you for voicing your interest in a direction! That really helps me know what people want.
Well, ultimately, it's people like you and my Patrons that should really decide so I'll put it up for a vote instead of making such a brash decision.
I'm sure that every developer has this same gripe but, it's hard. It's hard to get out of bed in the morning excited to see what's going on with Avalon and my F95 page and see a One Star Review from someone. And then to read through it and... it just doesn't make sense. Some of the reviews I'm not even sure are about my game, they are so bonkers.
You have the good comments that bring you up and the bad comments that tear you down and it's this stressful roller-coaster ride that takes a toll. Maybe that's what separates success from failure in this industry. Maybe I either steel my resolve and focus on the good or I get overwhelmed by the negative and can't push through. I guess time will tell. I genuinely do appreciate you, Smarmint. I think people like you help keep me on the right track and I certainly need that. Thank you.
Bahaha!
That's why they can't be together, he'd kill her. Ahaha. Aww.And thank you for the compliment.
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Lockheart Thanks a lot. I appreciate you as well. All your hard work makes Avalon possible!
I think if I was a dev I would feel the same as you. It's hard to see a bad review of something you've worked hard on and released to the world. I'd just want everyone to love my game, but there are just all kinds of people in the world, and you can't satisfy everyone. What one person thinks is a deep and moving story, another person will think is silly. I vote for "steel your resolve".
On another topic, I am with Shenhan , Penny is a spicy little minx and she had me at the first scene in the clothes shop.
I think if I was a dev I would feel the same as you. It's hard to see a bad review of something you've worked hard on and released to the world. I'd just want everyone to love my game, but there are just all kinds of people in the world, and you can't satisfy everyone. What one person thinks is a deep and moving story, another person will think is silly. I vote for "steel your resolve".
On another topic, I am with Shenhan , Penny is a spicy little minx and she had me at the first scene in the clothes shop.
I kind of see where you are coming from here. Penny hasn't really shown any interest in Byron so far, and she seems more like she is really into Octavia. Not sure how it would work with your story. She is hot as hell, but I could live without it if it doesn't make sense. I am a little biased in that I prefer all reasonably attractive characters in VNs to be possible LIs for the MC, but that's just me. Also, I am not personally into dream sequences and other non-canon scenes. If it isn't really happening in the story, It doesn't have any emotional resonance with me. I am probably the minority, but I play all these games solely for the story and the characters. But maybe others would like it!
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I agree with this. Just because I had issues with something doesn't mean I'm the by all and end all and the gatekeeper of smut. Personal preference and all. Also the game's a living thing. Just because I found a scene in version 0.whatever to be kinda rushed doesn't mean future releases won't be good. It's not that black and white.
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On our "optional, spicy" route:
And on the "normal" route:
And on the "normal" route:
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Lockheart your only issue is your to nice, thinking of everyones opinions. Look at where your at now from your launch April 2nd. This has been accomplished by you in doing your story and not by doing everyone elses thing. Every game is not for everyone, there will always be bad reviews, just keep to your story and all will be good.
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Probably shouldnt look for that here, haha. Alot of these people probably aren't even legal ageI just need love.
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That's exactly why I said to look up a picture of Shaq and his wife/gf, it definitely possible and realistic. She probably comes up to his elbow in a height comparison.Bahaha!
And thank you for the compliment.
Act 5 - Afternoon has been released to Patrons! That means that on May 5th, we'll have the public release officially available here on F95.
Release notes:
I found a new method of compression that greatly reduces file size without compromising quality. You'll find this release to be much smaller in size. (Credit to Recreation from Bad Memories for the assist!)
RENAME BYRON - That's right, you can now name Byron anything you want! If you load the game, you'll find his name is now [player_name]. You can combat this by either starting a new game or by starting the newly released content. There is an option just as you start Act 5 - Afternoon that will allow you to rename him. (Credit to Sir Dammed from Polarity and Radiant for helping with the code!)
Scenes -
Byron and Ava Couch Cuddle
Penny meets Gladstone
Avalon Video Calls
Avalon visits Sharol
Dallas, Avalon and Penny Salon (Dallas Path)
Penny Quits (Octavia - Mono Path)
Xianne's Dreaming of Sun Mei
I hope you all enjoy this release. The next one is going to take a bit longer than usual because there's going to be some exciting scenes and I want to make sure there is plenty of content. But I'll keep you guys updated, I promise!
Thank you, everyone!
Release notes:
I found a new method of compression that greatly reduces file size without compromising quality. You'll find this release to be much smaller in size. (Credit to Recreation from Bad Memories for the assist!)
RENAME BYRON - That's right, you can now name Byron anything you want! If you load the game, you'll find his name is now [player_name]. You can combat this by either starting a new game or by starting the newly released content. There is an option just as you start Act 5 - Afternoon that will allow you to rename him. (Credit to Sir Dammed from Polarity and Radiant for helping with the code!)
Scenes -
Byron and Ava Couch Cuddle
Penny meets Gladstone
Avalon Video Calls
Avalon visits Sharol
Dallas, Avalon and Penny Salon (Dallas Path)
Penny Quits (Octavia - Mono Path)
Xianne's Dreaming of Sun Mei
I hope you all enjoy this release. The next one is going to take a bit longer than usual because there's going to be some exciting scenes and I want to make sure there is plenty of content. But I'll keep you guys updated, I promise!
Thank you, everyone!