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Really? I don't mind it, but I'm not wild on a few of the characters how they're designed. That's just a matter of taste though. I think the storyline in the previous game was more interesting before the writer switch. This storyline just feels like it's been out there before. But to each their own. I think it's still ok, I just prefer the previous game. Then again, Babysitter is what got me into doing my own game....so I suppose there's a little bias there.

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Yea, to some degree the storline of this game has been out there before, I'll elaboriate and I get that same feeling you to, but here is the thing.

Fucking the mother, and maybe the daughter gonna become the secret slut... Screams "My Sweet Neighbors" RIP

"Gamer Girl Daughter" Character? "Parental Love" much?

Having a little kid, and needing a babysitter that you can bone.. Well, shit that's all "Living with Temptation" is.

Oh the dude has a therapist that he must talk to... maybe fuck... but not yet... Tells about all the kinky shit though. Well that seems an awful lot like "Dr. Amana Sexual Therapist"

Being a photogrpaher by trade... Well shit, that's a lot of adult games. Come to think of it that's probably the most common job a dude has in adult games.

Having a wife that may or may not cheat on you... there are over 9000 NTR games I'm not going to name.

There are a lot of plot elements ripped directly from other games as mentioned, and it's lacking originality to some degree there. However this game doesn't simply rip them off as it brings them together in different forms and then mixes it in one big stew making something different. That's how it gets it's originality. Much like the first automobile many folks were aware what a wheel was.

One of the things I like about this game over the previous one is the taking out of free roam making it much more playable. Don't get me wrong, free roam could be great... If it didn't require a comprehensive step by step walkthrough. It's not like you get to pick to randomly watch porn in the living room on a random wednesday then work around to getting to whatever later on at your leasure. It's more like oh you missed step 84 out of 392? And those must be done in the correct order? Fuck off you are on a lesser path now, you fucked it up! It was too rigid with what you had to do to get to the good stuff. I hope this game doesn't go down that same road at some point. The visual novel / free roam sandbox hybrid is infeirior to either on their own.
 

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Every good story needs an antagonist. NTR is a tool that works very well in this regard. The story of Babysitter would have been very flat if there wasn't a way to screw things up. See it as a more sophisticated way to display a Game Over screen.
I can see that argument. Only most game over screens don't continue for the same length as the regular game. Teasing you with the possibility to fix your mistakes while never actually allowing you to.
 
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Hope the devs Wife pulls through. Very sad turn of events. He was one of the few devs on this site that would update regularly regardless of the amount of content in the update. Never made excuses so Im inclined to believe him.

That BJ scene right before the Mom shows up was absolutely perfect. Shame we had to stop there. Wish we couldve gone further. Great game
 

GraphicusRex

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Yea, to some degree the storline of this game has been out there before, I'll elaboriate and I get that same feeling you to, but here is the thing.

Fucking the mother, and maybe the daughter gonna become the secret slut... Screams "My Sweet Neighbors" RIP

"Gamer Girl Daughter" Character? "Parental Love" much?

Having a little kid, and needing a babysitter that you can bone.. Well, shit that's all "Living with Temptation" is.

Oh the dude has a therapist that he must talk to... maybe fuck... but not yet... Tells about all the kinky shit though. Well that seems an awful lot like "Dr. Amana Sexual Therapist"

Being a photogrpaher by trade... Well shit, that's a lot of adult games. Come to think of it that's probably the most common job a dude has in adult games.

Having a wife that may or may not cheat on you... there are over 9000 NTR games I'm not going to name.

There are a lot of plot elements ripped directly from other games as mentioned, and it's lacking originality to some degree there. However this game doesn't simply rip them off as it brings them together in different forms and then mixes it in one big stew making something different. That's how it gets it's originality. Much like the first automobile many folks were aware what a wheel was.

One of the things I like about this game over the previous one is the taking out of free roam making it much more playable. Don't get me wrong, free roam could be great... If it didn't require a comprehensive step by step walkthrough. It's not like you get to pick to randomly watch porn in the living room on a random wednesday then work around to getting to whatever later on at your leasure. It's more like oh you missed step 84 out of 392? And those must be done in the correct order? Fuck off you are on a lesser path now, you fucked it up! It was too rigid with what you had to do to get to the good stuff. I hope this game doesn't go down that same road at some point. The visual novel / free roam sandbox hybrid is infeirior to either on their own.
It does and it doesn't bring them together kinda thing. I have not been a big fan of the writing since the switch in Babysitter....which, lets be honest, is why Babysitters was born. Life happens though and plenty of others liked it. The freeroam was a little obnoxious in the previous game, but I got it to a degree. I didn't like that it played a part into what ending you can get. I have freeroam in my game(Though, not a full freeroam on Day 2), but it has no bearing on the ending. It's just filled with stuff my partner in the game and I either find funny or think is cool, maybe something from when we were younger or to giving props to an adult game that's out there.

With the writing, I think it's easy to copy other games because some of the games you mentioned, are popular. I had totally forgotten about "My Sweet Neighbors", I actually liked that game before that fell. A lot of the writers see most of those games and see that they're popular and try to follow the recipe, if you will. There's nothing wrong with that if you're solely in it just to make money. Nothing wrong with that at all. I think it's too much of a shortcut. Some of what's out there is going to get used no matter what. With my game, I do the renders and the writing and my partner does the coding and helps with the editing(as well as giving some very good timed ideas, lol). Mostly everything is stuff that I know or have witnessed. I try to stay away from the things I don't know. And all the characters are based on actual people that I know with their personalities turned up some. And maybe that's my issue with Babysitters. There's a disconnect for me with the step daughter as well as the girl babysitting the baby. With the babysitter for instance, first day on the job and she leaves the baby alone to go sunbathe with a girl she has never met before. The writing tries to make the girl very responsible for her age and she needs the job and then they have her do something that careless? But I guess if you're looking at these games for pure storytelling, you're in the wrong place, haha.

I don't mind the game. I don't want to give the impression that I hate it or I think it sucks. The only thing I find better in Babysitters is the renders as a whole. As Babysitter got along, they got better, but during Babysitters, they've been good from start to finish so far. Though, anyone else have an issue where Christine looks like she's 18 in the beginning and with her redesign as the game went on she looked like she was 22....which is funny cause the game itself as a whole spanned what, 14 days? lol. Though, the redesign was for the better.

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I can see that argument. Only most game over screens don't continue for the same length as the regular game. Teasing you with the possibility to fix your mistakes while never actually allowing you to.
That's the one thing that drove me nuts with Babysitter. Maybe T4bbo intended to go back and make it possible you can fix it, but just never got to it. With mine, we have the douchebag line. You can screw up and do some dumb stuff, but over time, we are trying to make it where the player can make amends if you will. I would have liked to see something like that in Babysitter.

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Does your game have a similar plot?

I adore Babysitter. It was fantastic except for the damn NTR. I'm enjoying this one so far though. Particularly the streamer daughter Angel.
No, the plot in mine is very different. I'm sure that there might be some stuff that is familiar from other games, but that is only by coincidence. I've heard of a number of the adult games out there, but have only played a handful. While I liked most of them, I wasn't a fan of the writing for most. Though, it seems whatever game Burt Reynolds Mustache writes, I like lol. This is a thread for Babysitters, so I don't want to be a dick and advertise here. I'll leave a link to that thread and you can checkout the game if you'd like. It's the first game for Code Guy and myself, so be gentle, lol. I will always give credit to T4bbo and the Babysitter game, certainly what got me on this journey.

https://f95zone.to/threads/devil-in-your-eyes-v0-02-2-graphicus-rex.47629/

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I can see that argument. Only most game over screens don't continue for the same length as the regular game. Teasing you with the possibility to fix your mistakes while never actually allowing you to.
While it would have been nice if you were given a (small) chance to switch paths later on, I am not saying that the NTR path should have been cut shorter. People who don't like this kind of content should at least acknowledge that NTR can enhance their own play. A story, where the protagonists are only loyal to each other, has to has to have above average writing to entice me.
 

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I don't understand why people are so unfair to the MC's wife. It is possible that if you do not choose your options well she will be surly, but the truth is that she loves the MC. If you want to get her to fuck someone else you have to make a lot of bad decisions and almost force her. In the hot tub scene she is trying to leave from the beginning and in fact, in order for her to fuck with the neighbor you practically have to force her because until the last moment she tries to avoid it. Repeat, she loves her husband and here many people treat her as if she were a bitch. I don't know what the dev will do in the future, but up to here my route is and will be to keep it with the mc
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I don't understand why people are so unfair to the MC's wife. It is possible that if you do not choose your options well she will be surly, but the truth is that she loves the MC. If you want to get her to fuck someone else you have to make a lot of bad decisions and almost force her. In the hot tub scene she is trying to leave from the beginning and in fact, in order for her to fuck with the neighbor you practically have to force her because until the last moment she tries to avoid it. Repeat, she loves her husband and here many people treat her as if she were a bitch. I don't know what the dev will do in the future, but up to here my route is and will be to keep it with the mc
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For me I preferred Babysitter where you were single. I mean if you're happily married to the love of your life with a newborn why cheat? Realistically it wouldn't lead to some harem with your daughter and the new babysitter. You would just ruin everyone's lives.
 
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I don't understand why people are so unfair to the MC's wife. It is possible that if you do not choose your options well she will be surly, but the truth is that she loves the MC. If you want to get her to fuck someone else you have to make a lot of bad decisions and almost force her. In the hot tub scene she is trying to leave from the beginning and in fact, in order for her to fuck with the neighbor you practically have to force her because until the last moment she tries to avoid it. Repeat, she loves her husband and here many people treat her as if she were a bitch. I don't know what the dev will do in the future, but up to here my route is and will be to keep it with the mc
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I agree. I like the wife, and it is easy to get on her good side.
The sex choices are easy to make.
If you do not want her to cheat with her boss, do not enable NTR (when answering the counselor, say you do not think she is cheating : the labels even tell you what the outcome will be)
In the hot tub, if you stay, you chose if she will be a swinger (sex) or a cuck queen (just watch).
 

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I agree. I like the wife, and it is easy to get on her good side.
The sex choices are easy to make.
If you do not want her to cheat with her boss, do not enable NTR (when answering the counselor, say you do not think she is cheating : the labels even tell you what the outcome will be)
In the hot tub, if you stay, you chose if she will be a swinger (sex) or a cuck queen (just watch).
I think if you choose no NTR you cannot get sex in the hot tub at all. I kind of enjoyed cucking the neighbor and leaving him with blue balls. Did the same in the original except I didn't choose his wife I chose Jess. :p
 

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I think if you choose no NTR you cannot get sex in the hot tub at all. I kind of enjoyed cucking the neighbor and leaving him with blue balls. Did the same in the original except I didn't choose his wife I chose Jess. :p
Totally different decisions. Have a look at the walk through.
I chose no NTR, so did not even get the possibility to chose options for three related NTR choices, and I made the wife a cuck queen in the hot tub.
 

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Totally different decisions. Have a look at the walk through.
I chose no NTR, so did not even get the possibility to chose options for three related NTR choices, and I made the wife a cuck queen in the hot tub.
No I mean I don't think you can make the wife bang the neighbor with NTR off.
 

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Second that. I wanted to let the wife have some fun too in the hot tub, but she just refused and no option came up. I got NTR off as always. (I don't mind swinging with both on equal ground, just not into the cheating aspect.)
 
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No I mean I don't think you can make the wife bang the neighbor with NTR off.
You are correct.
Looking at the script for that menu choice :
"Fuck John" if NTROFF == 0 and RideWithMe == 1:
so NTR needs to be on, and if it is, when you go next door, Lara and John go to the garage, and then you need to chose 'Go along'
 

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I wish in relation to the boss that if she was very low in the minus points she would do it because she was blackmailed but would be really depressed and feel awful and then things would just escalate from there. But to even get her to cheat she has to be sad and then from what I know she always rationalizes it by saying that the MC doesn't love her.
 
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Well this game became one my favourites.This is how you approach NTR and swinging. The fact that the wife is such a lover makes it better. Imo, the wife has the best modelling I've seen in this forum after Cathy from BADIK. I will pledge him if he opens a subscribestar. And as I've seen from his patreon, his wife was in coma. I hope she is ok.
 
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