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Lennier

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"Oh nice an update!"

*plays it*

"WTF? That's it!?"
yea as I explain in the patch note reinstall daz really gum up the work. I'm already starting the work on close the next update it'll be away long since I'm relearning all the asset location again. I thought about holding the patch but I thought what the hell let start shit by releasing this for fun and kick the hornet nest.
 

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For those of you who willing to stick around, because you still trust in my storytelling ability, I thank you for your trust from the bottom of my heart.
Headed for the Patreon page on the strength of your original piece.. and trust. (y) **and now first time Patreon supporter**
 
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Ok, since so many people miss the point this whole update. I will have to break my own rule and clear up some confusion. There will be spoilers and more than one so read it at your own risk.


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Have some faith in my storytelling ability, will you? You know... I've been nice so far but to hell with this shit. I had believed that you guys would have enough faith in my storytelling ability to later make sense of this chaos. but I guess I was wrong. And don't confuse my begging for help and thinking will beg you to stay. The way I see it. I have 25 supporters on my Patreon. I made 84 bucks this month from this VN Or kinetic novel it already not worth my time But still, I will finish the thing for as long as there one person supporting me. That the type of man I am. Since I'm going to lose viewer anyway lets me just speak my mind. If you going to abandon ship now stop acting like you doing me a favor by playing/read this VN and go-ahead kick rocks. the way I see it. You are just as bad as the people who said, "Oh its Batman or Iron man rip off." When they see that MC is a Rich orphan and was never going support the VN anyway. For those of you who willing to stick around, because you still trust in my storytelling ability, I thank you for your trust from the bottom of my heart.
I see where your coming from and I think most people who commented would agree they could deal with the way the scenes played out if only you had given the MC some dialogue to show some kind of emotion like anger, disgust, mistrust, confusion, anything instead of yes sir, no sir, right away sir. After waking up tied to a chair I'm sure everybody would agree there would be some choice words spoken.

It really has nothing to do with his hand to hand expertise or money. From the script so far the Sumeragi clan failed to protect his parents, failed to get to him first and protect, failed to protect him against the assault team since he was given a heads up by one of his fathers insiders and took care of that himself, they have been spying on him inside his home which shows mistrust towards Raika, they threw him in a room to be potentially killed, he was talked to like a piece of shit by Raika's father, told he will be marrying Raika and told by Raika what the marriage will entail.

That's why people are annoyed, because they feel he just rolled over without either dialogue to reflect emotions or internal monalog giving some indication he didn't agree but would have to play along, he would discuss with Raika, give him time to think on everything and come up with a plan, something, anything.
 

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Ok, since so many people miss the point this whole update. I will have to break my own rule and clear up some confusion. There will be spoilers and more than one so read it at your own risk.


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Final thought
Have some faith in my storytelling ability, will you? You know... I've been nice so far but to hell with this shit. I had believed that you guys would have enough faith in my storytelling ability to later make sense of this chaos. but I guess I was wrong. And don't confuse my begging for help and thinking will beg you to stay. The way I see it. I have 25 supporters on my Patreon. I made 84 bucks this month from this VN Or kinetic novel it already not worth my time But still, I will finish the thing for as long as there one person supporting me. That the type of man I am. Since I'm going to lose viewer anyway lets me just speak my mind. If you going to abandon ship now stop acting like you doing me a favor by playing/read this VN and go-ahead kick rocks. the way I see it. You are just as bad as the people who said, "Oh its Batman or Iron man rip off." When they see that MC is a Rich orphan and was never going support the VN anyway. For those of you who willing to stick around, because you still trust in my storytelling ability, I thank you for your trust from the bottom of my heart.
I understand your points but also understand the others as well. This is a harem game so hope MC takes control of them twins cause ya that's not how a harem works. You dont get forced to watch your future wife get messed with like that. But like i said i understand both sides. I enjoyed the story so far just kinda was like wtf at this but it was girl on girl so I wasnt to mad lol but still hope mc does something about this for real lmao hopefully next update is longer and gives the mc a chance to take the reins
 

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I see where your coming from and I think most people who commented would agree they could deal with the way the scenes played out if only you had given the MC some dialogue to show some kind of emotion like anger, disgust, mistrust, confusion, anything instead of yes sir, no sir, right away sir. After waking up tied to a chair I'm sure everybody would agree there would be some choice words spoken.

It really has nothing to do with his hand to hand expertise or money. From the script so far the Sumeragi clan failed to protect his parents, failed to get to him first and protect, failed to protect him against the assault team since he was given a heads up by one of his fathers insiders and took care of that himself, they have been spying on him inside his home which shows mistrust towards Raika, they threw him in a room to be potentially killed, he was talked to like a piece of shit by Raika's father, told he will be marrying Raika and told by Raika what the marriage will entail.

That's why people are annoyed, because they feel he just rolled over without either dialogue to reflect emotions or internal monalog giving some indication he didn't agree but would have to play along, he would discuss with Raika, give him time to think on everything and come up with a plan, something, anything.
Yup he acted like someone with no respect for himself at all in this update and then happily has sex with her at the end, if he had needed sex so badly at that time he could have just hired a dozen escort girls to console him. Well at least part of the romantic, no sharing and mc action crowd will be unlikely to keep following the game nor the haters of weak ass cuckold happy MC's after this update the way it was handled. So good luck for dev if they were his target market. :p I will look again in a number of updates if MC is still everyone's bitch or not. If not will just skip past those scenes with control, since they do nothing for me and only may annoy me. :p
 

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For those of you who willing to stick around, because you still trust in my storytelling ability, I thank you for your trust from the bottom of my heart.
You shouldn't see the criticism about that last update as people not trusting your storytelling ability. When you have the MC tied in a chair and nonchalantly watch a LI getting banged by someone else for instance, it's pure cuckolding. That doesn't have anything to do with your skills, you can't present it as something else, no matter how good of a writer you are. I can't speak for everyone, but when I started playing this game I thought I would play as a strong MC and not as a "beta bitch boy" like someone else so eloquently put it... This whole update felt like it was made just to emasculate the MC.
 
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DA22

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You shouldn't see the criticim about that last update as people not trusting your storytelling ability. When you have the MC tied in a chair and nonchalantly watch a LI getting banged by someone else for instance, it's pure cuckolding. That doesn't have anything to do with your skills, you can't present it as something else, no matter how good of a writer you are. I can't speak for everyone, but when I started playing this game I thought I would play as a strong MC and not as a "beta bitch boy" like someone else so eloquently put it... This whole update felt like it was made just to emasculate the MC.
Yup, add brainless to that as well not forgetting that if he was ever foolish enough to marry Raika, he would loose his only advantage over that clan and would be death within a year, so his fortune would be theirs legally without him being able to change his mind. No chance Raika would protect him since the clan is more important to her and she is also simply unable to protect him.
 
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Lennier

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I understand where you are coming from, it's your story and you should tell it like you want. Yes many people here dont support dev's and complain. Others like myself have a budget that I support dev's with and I rotate the games that I support every couple of months. Just so you know I did in fact support you in the past but that was a while ago. I figured out what you said about Raika and that was all cool. What I didn't like is the fact that the scene happened and at the end he let it go like it was no big deal. I believe that is what most people didnt like. You see your li getting it on with someone else then after that she gets it on with you and you do or say nothing about it. That makes the li seem less desirable by many, you also made the mc seem like a little bitch boy there and made the li seem like she would cheat on you that easily. Now I know you say well she knows you are also cheating and yes it's a bit hypocritical to complain about the girl sleeping with someone else, but damn you didnt have her tied up and force her to see you bang another girl then went and banged her right after. Also one thing you should think about, and I've stated this in other threads also. The big thing about a li sleeping with someone else is how everyone visualizes her. If she comes across as a shy, timid, nice girl then all of a sudden she goes and sleeps with someone else, in front of you no less, then you will have backlash. Now if she had been portrayed as a free spirit and sleeping with others from the beginning or that she had a boyfriend and was sleeping with him, you as the mc would say ok I have to work on taking her away from that other person. You would expect her to sleep with another so it wouldn't bother people as much. I still think that having her do it in front of you like it was no big deal, then fucking you right after was a bit to much though. This is just my opinion and I know some wont agree with me. Just like I know others will. Either way dont take it personally as a dev you should be aware that you will be verbally attacked. It doesn't matter how you tell your story someone will not like some part about it, and if you get all defensive and start telling people to basically fuck off it just makes you look bad. Even though you have the right to defend yourself.
I appreciate your support no matter how long ago it was. And that wasn't directed at everybody who doesn't like this patch. it for people who decide to drop the VN.
 

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According to the dev, its not bad because they are girls :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You shouldn't see the criticism about that last update as people not trusting your storytelling ability. When you have the MC tied in a chair and nonchalantly watch a LI getting banged by someone else for instance, it's pure cuckolding. That doesn't have anything to do with your skills, you can't present it as something else, no matter how good of a writer you are. I can't speak for everyone, but when I started playing this game I thought I would play as a strong MC and not as a "beta bitch boy" like someone else so eloquently put it... This whole update felt like it was made just to emasculate the MC.
 

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I appreciate your support no matter how long ago it was. And that wasn't directed at everybody who doesn't like this patch. it for people who decide to drop the VN.
Yeah I get it, and honestly I didnt like this patch myself. For the reasons that were stated earlier. I'm not sure if I'll play it again or not. I'm on the fence because I'm not into forced (sharing, getting cucked, ntr) whatever people want to call it. Also Im not a fan of the time skip that you have planned. I just dont think that if you have seen your li with another person, be it male or female and they act like it's no big deal then something is fundamentally wrong with them. Plus I wouldn't be in a relationship with her after that scene unless it was resolved before the time skip. Plus it did make the mc seem like a beta by his actions or lack thereof. I'll wait and hopefully come back to your game. Maybe I'll change my mind but I'll be honest its doubtful. Once again good luck with your game.
 
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I won't drop it, I like your game too much. I also apologize, but you are just the latest in a group of updates lately that seem like they are far shorter than they should be. At least you had a good reason for it.
 
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Lennier

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Yeah I get it it, and honestly I didnt like this patch myself. For the reasons that were stated earlier. I'm not sure if I'll play it again or not. I'm on the fence because I'm not into forced (sharing, getting cucked, ntr) whatever people want to call it. Also Im not a fan of the time skip that you have planned. I just dont think that if you have seen your li with another person, be it male or female and they act like it's no big deal then something is fundamentally wrong with them. Plus I wouldn't be in a relationship with her after that scene unless it was resolved before the time skip. Plus it did make the mc seem like a beta by his actions or lack thereof. I'll wait and hopefully come back to your game. Maybe I'll change my mind but I'll be honest its doubtful. Once again good luck with your game.
I've said all I have to say. stay or goes your choice. I can't stop even if I want to. You make your feeling clear and to the point. I just hope that there no hard feeling. At least there aren't on my end.
 

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I've said all I have to say. stay or goes your choice. I can't stop even if I want to. You make your feeling clear and to the point. I just hope that there no hard feeling. At least there aren't on my end.
There are no hard feelings on my end either. I realize not every game is going to be to my liking, and not everything in every game will be to my liking. Like I said you do your story and people will decide if they like it or not. There are many ways to go and all lead to someone getting mad at you. You can stay and tell your story - people will get mad at the scene. You will lose possible patrons. You can go back and change it - people will get mad that you changed it and didnt stay true to your story. You will lose possible patrons. So your damned if you do and damned if you dont. Like I said just do what you want. You can't please everyone.
 

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The strike team are full of ex marines and others they are well trained military personal. So saying they where weak and that's why mc won that is a little far fetched. So ya the mc is pretty badass of course the twins where probably trained since children in hand to hand combat we where not. But the whole issue is the mc is acting like a douche not caring about anything going on with the twins and arranged marriage. Of course he has a thing for rakia so he doesn't have a issue with marriage. But from what I read this is supposed to be a straight up harem. So hopefully next update he gets to either take control of the twin situation. Because sorry I am no ones toy lol keep up the good work though do like the game but being cuckold was not cool without getting at least pissed off or angry.
 

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There are no hard feelings on my end either. I realize not every game is going to be to my liking, and not everything in every game will be to my liking. Like I said you do your story and people will decide if they like it or not. There are many ways to go and all lead to someone getting mad at you. You can stay and tell your story - people will get mad at the scene. You will lose possible patrons. You can go back and change it - people will get mad that you changed it and didnt stay true to your story. You will lose possible patrons. So your damned if you do and damned if you dont. Like I said just do what you want. You can't please everyone.
True the contention is not whether dev can do what he wants, but that he put the content in without a warning and even set mc up up as a willing powerless brainless bitch and made it even stronger with the parts before in this episode and no that has nothing to do with losing a fight.

Now I am pretty sure the dev was aware that content would cost him players and will attract other kind of players and I will not ask him to change it in anyway, unless he got reactions he did not want or did not succeed in getting the points across he wanted. Then he should rethink as any dev should when that is the case, whether the content is cuckolding like this or a romantic tryst.

Like I said before I wish the dev good luck with his game anyway and will check in a couple of updates whether the game will be more centered on NPC action(that does nothing for me personally on the fapping front) and/or a weak mc or that it will be more like start and this was a one off and then decide.
 
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True the contention is not whether dev can do what he wants, but that he put the content in without a warning and even set mc up up as a willing powerless bitch and made it even stronger with the parts before in this episode and no that has nothing to do with losing a fight.

Now I am pretty sure the dev was aware that content would cost him players and I will not ask him to change it in anyway, unless he got reactions he did not want or did not succeed in getting the points across he wanted. Then he should rethink as any dev should when that is the case, whether the content is cuckolding like this or a romantic tryst.

Like I said before I wish the dev good luck with his game anyway and will check in a couple of updates whether the game will be more centered on NPC action and/or a weak mc or that it will be more like start and this was a one off and then decide.
I agree with you but just like you said, I dont want to be that guy to tell the dev to change his game. But he should have warned the players that he was going to have that kind of scene in the game. It wouldn't have stopped all the remarks but it would have taken care that some people wouldn't have played the game and been surprised by that scene to begin with.
 
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