Ren'Py BangCity [v0.14a] [BangCityDev]

[WINTEX]

...a beauty and wellness saloon. She was a sex therapist!

Great. Now she's also a ex-hooker. Marvelous. Thats what we're expecting from incest games. Why else it is called not *common* therapist i really dont know.(sarcasm)
And, here, i was only to post a comment about missing image. What a pleasant information.
Probably you could just upload it here, and i'll just copy it to BangCity-003-pc\game\images\scenes\gh_kit

 

[botc76]

Gods, will you guys stop bitching and moaning?
It's his game, let him tell the story he wants to.
He's even willing to make compromises, but it's still not enough for you, then just walk away from this game.
If the story the dev wants to tell hurts your sensibilities, then this game simply might not be for you.

The woman has a past and has a life, that's a background which is part of her character, now I understand (even though I personally find it ridiculous) if this is too much for you and you wouldn't want to pursue a woman like that, BUT if this is important for her character and you want the dev to change that, so she is a completely different character than you are going too far with your demands.

It's not like a character who was faithful to the MC, for no reason at all suddenly turns into a promiscuous whore, no.
It's a character NOT in a relationship with the MC, having a past and having a sex life. Neither is anything out of the ordinary.

It might not be how I ideally want my games, but if every game was the same, then it would be boring as fuck.
In the end, for me, even a story with a "fallen woman" (which I honestly don't see Valerie as) finding a new love and then turning her life around has its beauty.

Also, if you think a sexual therapist is the same as a hooker (and that doesn't mean I in any way look down on hookers, everybody has to earn a living somehow), then you are worthy of words I can't post here without getting censored/punished.
Those people help others with problems related to sexuality, the therapist in the name of their profession isn't for show, it's integral to said profession.

 

[BangCityGuy]

Great. Now she's also a ex-hooker. Marvelous. Thats what we're expecting from incest games. Why else it is called not *common* therapist i really dont know.(sarcasm)
And, here, i was only to post a comment about missing image. What a pleasant information. View attachment 405013
Probably you could just upload it here, and i'll just copy it to BangCity-003-pc\game\images\scenes\gh_kit

1) The image is missing indeed, i will put it again into the render list. Attached ist a preview image.
2) A sex-therapist ist not a hooker, just a therapist specialist for sexual problems.

 

[BangCityGuy]

I don't want to insult somebody ....
What year it is ... 1960???
I am living in a western world country and not in Saudi Arabia and i am living in year 2019.

But... when a woman who has an affair is an whore, if a sex-therapist is a hooker ....
What i am? I am a guy that loves porn and want to make a porn game .... do i need to be affraid some guys with pitchforks and torches will come to me and bind me
to the pyre ??

 

[MLBnoob]

Gods, will you guys stop bitching and moaning?
It's his game, let him tell the story he wants to.
He's even willing to make compromises, but it's still not enough for you, then just walk away from this game.
If the story the dev wants to tell hurts your sensibilities, then this game simply might not be for you.

The woman has a past and has a life, that's a background which is part of her character, now I understand (even though I personally find it ridiculous) if this is too much for you and you wouldn't want to pursue a woman like that, BUT if this is important for her character and you want the dev to change that, so she is a completely different character than you are going too far with your demands.

It's not like a character who was faithful to the MC, for no reason at all suddenly turns into a promiscuous whore, no.
It's a character NOT in a relationship with the MC, having a past and having a sex life. Neither is anything out of the ordinary.

It might not be how I ideally want my games, but if every game was the same, then it would be boring as fuck.
In the end, for me, even a story with a "fallen woman" (which I honestly don't see Valerie as) finding a new love and then turning her life around has its beauty.

Also, if you think a sexual therapist is the same as a hooker (and that doesn't mean I in any way look down on hookers, everybody has to earn a living somehow), then you are worthy of words I can't post here without getting censored/punished.
Those people help others with problems related to sexuality, the therapist in the name of their profession isn't for show, it's integral to said profession.

This is a free forum that is moderated by mods, no personal bashing has occurred, no insulting the dev(I think...). Let people complain as long as it doesn't reach into extreme insults. Each game should have criticisms thrown at it, heck I see some criticisms in the games I listed in my signature, I don't go attacking them. Plus this is a porn game with porn game logic and etc., sex therapist still sounds like a hooker to me and to some people, doesn't mean we'll call dev names and insult the game. F95 is full of real-life people with different opinion, different likes and dislikes.

PS. I keep seeing NTR people and people who keeps asking saves in my favorite game threads which are annoying sometimes, we either ignore them or help them (the save guys and gals).

 

[WINTEX]

2) A sex-therapist ist not a hooker, just a therapist specialist for sexual problems.

Yep. I know. It is COMMON therapist, my question was (and assumption) that if sex therapist is not "common", then it might be said in figurative way. Again, why do you need to go from sex therapist to a mere beauty salon lady if the first pays more as well as more respectful work?

But... when a woman who has an affair is an whore...

You still dont get it why people are against you, aren't ya? You see, the problem here is that you can not sit on two chairs at the same time, if you're doing an incest game, than you should make one. You can not make incest game, with idea that incest fans would come and donate and NOT MAKING IT RIGHT. Yeah, yeah, this is not incest game, patch made by a third party and blah-blah-blah. We all know what is happening here. But lets assume its an incest game. Wink-wink and everything.
Incest and NTR is NOT something that can be done in one game, you eather aim for one or the other. But hey, you were telling that here would not be no NTR, so all incest funboys (me included): "Oh wow, thats game is for us, lets do this!". And...
We recieving this. The problem here is not that a non married woman is having an affair, the problem here who, assumptionally, that woman. That woman is a mom. No more nor less, and as i mentioned above, you dont do that in incest game.
There would be no problems if the mom just had normal relationship, husband or boyfriend(living in same house and\or preparing for a wedding. why not?), maybe a kid. There would be absolutely no problems, its is perfectly fine in normal relationship to have sex. But what have you done? You have a booty call. With a pornstar. With the same fucking age as MC.
Again, this is not what you do in incest game. This is for NTR, as it cause envy(in bad way), the feeling that should be caused by NTR. The incest funboy, after hearing that from, assumed, mom, would feel bad. THATS WHAT NTR DOES. And you were telling here would be no NTR.
Thats what bothers everyone. Yes, it is your story, and you can make your story all the way you want it, but this problem not concerns the story, but the way you make an incest game for incest fanboys. For example, you can check all my posts in the whole thread, do i complain about the story even once? No. Only about mom part. Do i like it wholely? No as well.
For example, we have Gina. She has the best model of all bitches. And what do we recieve? "Hey, you just gave me cocaine on hundreds of thousands of dollars, would you mind if my guys gangrape and defile the girl you loved?". "Sure, no problems".
WTF? OF COURSE I'M AGAINST IT. I DONT WANT TO FUCK A GIRL AFTER GANG RAPE. What, no options... No options at all????? Okey...
And what do we have after that? She was filled with cum by a bunch of guys, pissed and everithing. Probavly rimjob. Who knows? I'm expecting the worst.
THAT IS DISGUSTING, i dont want to touch her, that is totally disgusting, idiotic, i wanted to say NO when MC was asked about it, i'm not netorare guy, bu netori. (lets say hello to theidiotic tag moderation on this site).
That is disgusting and i dont whant to see that in the story. Have i complained about it even once? No. Cause IT IS PART OF THE STORY. It is not against the MCs ravange path, it does not ruins the image of the MC that author presented to us by the novel part. Yes, i have absolutely no problems if the MC was the one who'd done that to Gina, man, that would be even arousing for me, BUT NOT WHEN IT IS DONE BY FUCKING OTHERES TO THE GIRLS I'M EXPECTING TO BE FUCKING IN THE FUTURE. That is dusgusting and i dont want it and i dont like it.
But still, no complaints about that from me, and surely, if youd look through the thread, everyone else was quite cool about that as well, nonetheless it is still the NTR thing. No one cared as its the STORY, your story, and its still LOGICAL, so yes i was ok with it even if dont like it. But i'm not OK with the MOM part. You've done it wrong. You can not expect for people not to complain about that, cause its not the problem of the story, its the problem of the game it self. You dont call something an incest game AND include this in the story. Nope. It had been totally ok, if the "your age porn star affair " was something, for example, of a neighbor. Beautiful 40 years old single lady, BFF of your mom, that spends a lot of time inside your house, chatting with your mom and sometimes yourself. If we heared that she has a booty call from a 20 years old pornstar and now she's hard to walk. Man, no one would have said even a word. It would be fun and interesting conversating. BUT NOT IF IT COMES FROM YOUR MOM.
I know, you might keep being stubborn and change nothing, telling everyone that it is your story and we all should just fuck off(well, not heared from you even once, man, you have nerves of steel ). But the problem, if this keeps being inside the game, than it no more an incest game,so the incest fanboys would not donate to you. Cause... it is not an incest game funboys expect. Maybe not completely NTR like Big Brother or Superpowered (oh, i so hate them), but something that give you a fishy feeling about it. And you just dont like it.

UPD1: You keep telling that later you would need it for the story, but are you sure that if the story needs your mom to be fucked by a creepy head is the RIGHT story? I'm sure that, even excluding incest relationship, the situation that would require a mother to be fucked by a strange dude, even if it helps you, is not something normal son would go for?

 

[ptahn]

After reading the latest posts i am willing to do some compromise!

There are some people that are don't like some aspects of the game and they are complaining. I am pretty sure if i will change them, others will not be happy with it. So i know i can't make everyone happy.
But i truely believe the guys like this game, else they would not return to this thread and write posts. There are better things to do than doing posts and complain.

So what i thinking about adding some features that will give you the choice about some issues.

Situation:
Babyface is is a very angry young man that wants revenge and hates the gang and their wives. So he is insulting her all the time! Growing up among those people will not lead to him being courteous, gracious, and well-mannered toward to them. So he is calling them bitches and it's natural to him.

If some people are not happy with that, following could happen:


Solution is a "Pleasant City"-option:
I insert a dialog between Valerie and Babyface. Babyface is telling about the gangladies and calling them bitches all the time.
Valerie will react upset and will ask babyface not to use such words! Not because to show respect, but to learn to become more well-mannered because this may help him in future to have better chances in life!

Now player can decide to agree or to disagree!
This will not change the game but some dialogs so those players will not have to see to much the word "Bitch". Of course sometimes this will happen if IO think it fits for the situation!

That dialogue can happen while the first days in kitchen. If someone wants to change to the pleasant-mode later without restarting the game, this can happen in kitchen too!

Maybe this will open another opportunity for Valerie to help MC with influencing him.

In addition to this dialog i also could offer an option about Valeries affair!
MC knows she is a widow, but he can ask her if she is having someone. Now the player can choose if Valerie is telling the truth about her affair, or if she is lying.
If she is lying she will not tell about her affair, but making excuses. Of course she will have to explain something later, but maybe there will be some way to handle this situation.
This affair will include some scenes in a later version and if lying-option is choosen, there will have to be some alternative scenes, but i guess i can do this.
So it will be possible to have 2 pathes that will end in the same goal.

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What do you think about that?

I think you just need to roll the dice and see what happens. I and people who share my opinions will not be happy with her having an affair with a porn star and lying about it nor will we be happy if she work as a sex therapist who actually had sex with clients. You clearly want to tell a story in which I have no interest. There is nothing wrong with that. I was just trying to tell you what I thought you could do to be more financially successful. I thought you wanted Valerie to represent the opposite of everything that the gang women represented, an innocent compared to their corruption. Obviously that is not what you are trying to do. I know that after this post, people will rush to voice their support. The same thing happened with Poly Cafe. In that game there was a scene to which many people (including me) objected. Many people passionately (more so than here) defended the developer's story. The story did not have the other problems regarding game play that this one has. That story never got more that $30 in donations and is dead now. I hope the same thing does not happen to you. So to all the people who are going to complain about this post, don't just tell me I am wrong; go to this developer's page and support him financially. I stopped playing this game when Valerie got home from her date. This game (especially with the direction it's going with Valerie) has no interest for me, but I will follow with great interest on how the making of this story goes same as I did with Poly Cafe. I wish you luck, but I am not optimistic. You just posted an update and your contributions are still at $22 (sorry I incorrectly posted earlier that they were $26.) Hopefully money is not a concern for you and you can be true to your vision.

 

[Mormont]

In addition to this dialog i also could offer an option about Valeries affair!
MC knows she is a widow, but he can ask her if she is having someone. Now the player can choose if Valerie is telling the truth about her affair, or if she is lying.
If she is lying she will not tell about her affair, but making excuses. Of course she will have to explain something later, but maybe there will be some way to handle this situation.
This affair will include some scenes in a later version and if lying-option is choosen, there will have to be some alternative scenes, but i guess i can do this.
So it will be possible to have 2 pathes that will end in the same goal.

I don't think to lie about it would make the situation any better she is having an affair and could choose to deceive the MC surely that would work against her character as she doesn't strike me as the type of women who would want to deceive which make this whole affair the more mind-boggling and it makes her look as bad as the guy who is cheating.

I've played plenty of these games with the lonely women who are in need of attention some of which were we actually eliminate the competition before they become a factor or she sees how the MC is a better choice for her than some random guy these situations are always better as a slow build-up as well.

 

[ptahn]

I don't want to insult somebody ....
What year it is ... 1960???
I am living in a western world country and not in Saudi Arabia and i am living in year 2019.

But... when a woman who has an affair is an whore, if a sex-therapist is a hooker ....
What i am? I am a guy that loves porn and want to make a porn game .... do i need to be affraid some guys with pitchforks and torches will come to me and bind me
to the pyre ??

If you just want to make a porn game, make whatever game you want. If you are trying to sell a porn game, then you may be going in the wrong direction. No one is coming after you, I'm really just trying to help you out. While I have no interest in your game as it is, I still would like to know if you are successful. I will continue to suggest to people who like your game to support your efforts.

 

[botc76]

I wonder if BC would be okay with it if it were his own actual mom? Maybe he would. Maybe that's why he can't understand our aversion to his story about a fantasy mom.

Says the incest fan. The incest fan insults a dev over the story he wants to tell. By your own logic that must mean you do want to have sex with your own mother in reality. Because you can't find anything hot or write anything AND DON'T want to do that in real life, right?
Do you have any idea how absurd your last few posts seem? You're not just entitled you are completely delusional.


Also, why the hell do you think you and the few other people here who complained are the majority of people interested in playing a game like Bang City?
I hate NTR, but there's a crowd of NTR fans out there, who finance quite a lot of games and also why dozens of game offer at least optional NTR.

Not that this is even NTR, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH VALERIE!
She's not the dev's woman at the beginning of the game, so her having sex with someone else is not NTR, by no definition of the word.

 

[ptahn]

Says the incest fan. The incest fan insults a dev over the story he wants to tell. By your own logic that must mean you do want to have sex with your own mother in reality. Because you can't find anything hot or write anything AND DON'T want to do that in real life, right?
Do you have any idea how absurd your last few posts seem? You're not just entitled you are completely delusional.

I was not trying to insult the developer. He seems very open minded about the way the mother is portrayed and seems to have no understanding of the other point of view. I will delete the post, because I can see why it could be taken as an insult and I apologize for that. People have different opinions about sex. I just think his opinion is very different than my own. I don't think that people who play incest games actually fantasize about their own mothers. I'm glad that you like the game the way it is, I hope that you are contributing to his story.

 

[ptahn]

I have no particular dog in this fight, but that comment was absurd and way over the line. By your own analogy, since you used a patch to turn a social worker into your mom, you are ok with banging your mom IRL. Ridiculous.

Note: I would recommend the Mods delete the last three posts (including mine) when they get here.

I agree the post came off as an insult which is not what I intended. I deleted the post. I apologize to Bang City and to everyone else.

 

[botc76]

This is a free forum that is moderated by mods, no personal bashing has occurred, no insulting the dev(I think...). Let people complain as long as it doesn't reach into extreme insults. Each game should have criticisms thrown at it, heck I see some criticisms in the games I listed in my signature, I don't go attacking them. Plus this is a porn game with porn game logic and etc., sex therapist still sounds like a hooker to me and to some people, doesn't mean we'll call dev names and insult the game. F95 is full of real-life people with different opinion, different likes and dislikes.

PS. I keep seeing NTR people and people who keeps asking saves in my favorite game threads which are annoying sometimes, we either ignore them or help them (the save guys and gals).

People are of course allowed to complain, but by the same logic I am allowed to tell them their complaining is annoying me.
Especially if, like in this case, a few critics act as if their opinion is the majority, when in reality it's actually a quite extreme look at relationships in adult games.
And again, if you think a sexual therapist is a hooker then you are plain and simply wrong, has nothing to do with opinions or likes and dislikes. It's simply an ignorant and wrong position.

 

[ptahn]

People are of course allowed to complain, but by the same logic I am allowed to tell them their complaining is annoying me.
Especially if, like in this case, a few critics act as if their opinion is the majority, when in reality it's actually a quite extreme look at relationships in adult games.
And again, if you think a sexual therapist is a hooker then you are plain and simply wrong, has nothing to do with opinions or likes and dislikes. It's simply an ignorant and wrong position.

This is the point that I was trying to make. I personally would not be happy if my own mother was a sexual therapist if that meant she was engaging in sexual activity with clients. Some people would be perfectly okay with it. Maybe it is a flaw in my own character.

 

[WINTEX]

You see, the problem is that you don't need to defend the author. Author can do that himself. Also, no one is insulting author here, its just conversation, the feedback for the product. The Game.
And yes, botc76 , i think you're an idiot who do not want to listen and do not want to understand what you were told. And yep, the insult is here.

 

[WINTEX]

OK, finished it. I should say its kinda buggy right now. For example, you can not check webcams whe you should, but only day BEFORE you go buy webcams and everything. Also, Gina is always missing, looked through images in /game folder, there is no event for giving her new suit as well as photoshoot with her. You just cant access her during first day she shown on the nav bar, it tell you "this is living room" and thats all. Also photoshoot with lesbos is also missing. Maybe its because of the quick time skip hack, just feedback to make game better.
Also found some unused pictures, also there is some scenes that are "not obvious", for example trailer park, it is in the the game but walkthrought says nothing about it.

 

[pepoye]

Hello, how can i unlock this scene ? And all the others movies ?

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Good game so far keep up !

 

[BangCityGuy]

OK, finished it. I should say its kinda buggy right now. For example, you can not check webcams whe you should, but only day BEFORE you go buy webcams and everything. Also, Gina is always missing, looked through images in /game folder, there is no event for giving her new suit as well as photoshoot with her. You just cant access her during first day she shown on the nav bar, it tell you "this is living room" and thats all. Also photoshoot with lesbos is also missing. Maybe its because of the quick time skip hack, just feedback to make game better.
Also found some unused pictures, also there is some scenes that are "not obvious", for example trailer park, it is in the the game but walkthrought says nothing about it.

Thanks for the feedback.

The "quick time skip hack":
Of course i did test it and every scene is accessable, but i found out if you don't visit her once when she is there (Monday) it will affect her apereance at wednesday. So you always should visit the 3 girls first , than Gina and finaly Linda! I already did include some code to lead the players, but i will do it more often, or take care it does not has an effect if that scene is mostly unimportant!

The webcams are not really accessable now, only once right after the webcaroom is done!
In v004 they will be accessable from a certain point all the time and MC can watch them!

The

About the trailerpark: It is a little sideplot and not important right now. Just to have something other then the main plots.
You can enter it once a day. Before evening, Martha is working there, from evening to night you can meet candy, a new character!

Webcamroom events: First show is with Ellen, next day with Gina, then it's Tracy and Peggys turn. Just tested it with latest provided version again!

Walthrough: I did not make one by now, but i'll do it within the next days.

 

[BangCityGuy]

Hello, how can i unlock this scene ? And all the others movies ?


Good game so far keep up !

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The files you have seen are part from next version, they are not used in game now and i did not sort them out by my own mistake.

 

[Ozygator]

You can leave Valerie's affair in the story if you want, but obviously many people don't like it. You've only got $22/month in pledges, if you're okay with that, leave it in.

You're implying that the only reason the game isn't getting a lot of Patreons is because of one single item. Prove it. You can't because you can't prove something without causal effect, and that's impossible unless you literally interviewed every single person on the planet that plays adult games, AND has a Patreon account to ask why they haven't pledged.

Get over yourself, whiners have been bitching about this single aspect, because their fragile ego's can't stand the thought of competition in a game, much less real life. And yes, I DO support the game, so I at least have a leg to stand on when IO post refuting your blatant, beta BS.