Ren'Py BangCity [v0.14a] [BangCityDev]

[BangCityGuy]

Hey dev I am little confused after reading comments that whether this game has ntr or not?
Because I am searching for NTR games

Well ... when is something NTR and when its not? I guess everyone has his own opinion about it.
In this game:
1) Valerie is having an affair with an pornstar and she is out almost every friday to meet him (But you never will see him in game ... ) A lot of people called this NTR... I made this optional so you can change this and Valerie is meeting friends instead.
The difference it makes? Well some other lines in the dialogues.

2) MC is trying to get controll over the gang bitches and as soon he is starting to fuck them a male gang member takes over controll and fucks them all ... for a while.There is no love interest but only the wish to use them. Is this NTR? I say: No.
But in the rework version i will change this into that guy dont fucking them but eating fastfood (maybe) all the time.

3) in the near future MC will have a threesome with Diane (another MILF) and another Guy. Is this NTR? I say no, because there is no love interest, but i understand the idea of sharing Women is something not everyone is into it. So player can avoid that threesome scenes.

My general idea about the sexual adventures of MC is show a lot of different stuff but make them optional.
Maybe i will even make the complete Valerie Path optional. Just imagine you can choose not to live with Valerie but to stay in the trailerpark. Okay .... that would be a bad idea i guess

 

[DA22]

Well ... when is something NTR and when its not? I guess everyone has his own opinion about it.
In this game:
1) Valerie is having an affair with an pornstar and she is out almost every friday to meet him (But you never will see him in game ... ) A lot of people called this NTR... I made this optional so you can change this and Valerie is meeting friends instead.
The difference it makes? Well some other lines in the dialogues.

2) MC is trying to get controll over the gang bitches and as soon he is starting to fuck them a male gang member takes over controll and fucks them all ... for a while.There is no love interest but only the wish to use them. Is this NTR? I say: No.
But in the rework version i will change this into that guy dont fucking them but eating fastfood (maybe) all the time.

3) in the near future MC will have a threesome with Diane (another MILF) and another Guy. Is this NTR? I say no, because there is no love interest, but i understand the idea of sharing Women is something not everyone is into it. So player can avoid that threesome scenes.

My general idea about the sexual adventures of MC is show a lot of different stuff but make them optional.
Maybe i will even make the complete Valerie Path optional. Just imagine you can choose not to live with Valerie but to stay in the trailerpark. Okay .... that would be a bad idea i guess

I have said it many times before, but most of this discussion is not about NTR as such, though that genre is a problem for many due to the memes and tropes that surround it (Like a LI or direct family member being forced (rape) to have sex and enjoys it by a NPC. )

The thing that you are talking about is that there are players that immerse with MC and fall somewhere between dislike to hate to see other as MC have action in game especially if they have the idea it is a harem or romance game (this also can stretch for some to lesbian, any form of MMF, sharing up to real NTR and so on) and players who do like NPC's having action without MC. Trouble is those two groups mix pretty badly, except for those who do not mind either or do not mind unless one type strongly outnumbers the other as with lesbian sex in some male MC games.

For a dev this is a no win situation, since cannot keep the more rabid factions of both camps happy. So just make the game as you want to make it and for the kind you like to play your game, communicate it clearly as you do and accept you will lose some players due to that for whom the game has too much content they are not a fan of.

 

[peppers12]

Got no more tasks when Chapter 3 starts and stucks at day 36

 

[BangCityGuy]

Got no more tasks when Chapter 3 starts and stucks at day 36

Unfortunately this version is still a little bit buggy and the comming rework will prevent that this can happen.
I suspect that you missed a scene from day 32 or 33 and that you are blocked from progressing.
Probably it is one of the scenes where MC enters Valerie's office on the first floor and this leads to MC entering the secret room in the basement.
I strongly recommend to always read the texts, because here you get hints what will happen next!
There is also linked a walktrough in first post.

 

[Deleted member 1203278]

Well ... when is something NTR and when its not? I guess everyone has his own opinion about it.
In this game:
1) Valerie is having an affair with an pornstar and she is out almost every friday to meet him (But you never will see him in game ... ) A lot of people called this NTR... I made this optional so you can change this and Valerie is meeting friends instead.
The difference it makes? Well some other lines in the dialogues.

but what is the point of even say that has a affair with a pornstar? i think there was a plan to make some scenes with these two but seeing how people are about NTR the idea was discarted. well now that i know that valeria is out almost every friday to meet him (oh by the way he is a pornstar) i hope you make some scenes with these two (did i mention that he is a pornstar?) anyway good game

 

[KingWeWuz]

1) Valerie is having an affair with an pornstar and she is out almost every friday to meet him (But you never will see him in game ... ) A lot of people called this NTR.

Do you mind if I ask why you made this decision? If I understand correctly (the mc) is getting cheated on a weekly basis? The people who like ntr would barely get anything out of this because they can't see anything, the people who hate ntr would absolutely hate this.

 

[RottenPlum]

Do you mind if I ask why you made this decision? If I understand correctly (the mc) is getting cheated on a weekly basis? The people who like ntr would barely get anything out of this because they can't see anything, the people who hate ntr would absolutely hate this.

Is mc getting cheated or is other guy getting cheated? Who knows, maybe she is nymphomaniac who is jumping on every dick, while i would prefer that because i like debauchery in porn games, i understand someone who would see her as love interest would dislike that. From what i played i never perceived her as love interest, maybe just someone who mc prefer to be main fuck. It comes as how dev presented her and feelings of the mc about her and individual preference of the every player. In the end it's developers decision and maybe he can appease multiple groups of players.
Just gonna add that some potential scene with other male character and Val is not NTR, seeing that MC is not getting cucked as he already starting to get his share of her holes. So maybe some future optional DP and gang bang scenes would be nice.

 

[KingWeWuz]

Just gonna add that some potential scene with other male character and Val is not NTR, seeing that MC is not getting cucked as he already starting to get his share of her holes. So maybe some future optional DP and gang bang scenes would be nice.

What are you talking about here?

 

[RottenPlum]

What are you talking about here?

Talking about possibility of Val MMF scene, i don't know if dev plan to include that but i know he was gonna add those kind of scenes with her friend and maybe with Val as optional scene.

 

[BangCityGuy]

but what is the point of even say that has a affair with a pornstar? i think there was a plan to make some scenes with these two but seeing how people are about NTR the idea was discarted. well now that i know that valeria is out almost every friday to meet him (oh by the way he is a pornstar) i hope you make some scenes with these two (did i mention that he is a pornstar?) anyway good game

Do you mind if I ask why you made this decision? If I understand correctly (the mc) is getting cheated on a weekly basis? The people who like ntr would barely get anything out of this because they can't see anything, the people who hate ntr would absolutely hate this.

Is mc getting cheated or is other guy getting cheated? Who knows, maybe she is nymphomaniac who is jumping on every dick, while i would prefer that because i like debauchery in porn games, i understand someone who would see her as love interest would dislike that. From what i played i never perceived her as love interest, maybe just someone who mc prefer to be main fuck. It comes as how dev presented her and feelings of the mc about her and individual preference of the every player. In the end it's developers decision and maybe he can appease multiple groups of players.
Just gonna add that some potential scene with other male character and Val is not NTR, seeing that MC is not getting cucked as he already starting to get his share of her holes. So maybe some future optional DP and gang bang scenes would be nice.

What are you talking about here?

I would like to take this opportunity to explain a few things here.
Basically I would like to offer the player many different possibilities for the gameplay.
The idea, that Valerie has an affair with a young porn actor, should show that Valerie is sexually open-minded and likes young men.
In the progression of the game she meets him less and less and in the current version she doesn't meet him at all. This should help the progress between MC and Valerie.
NTR-aspect: Since there are no scenes with Valerie and the porn actor yet and this doesn't play a big role I made this affair optional. There are also other dialogues that show the whole thing in a different light
The longer I work on this game the more I understand that not everybody likes my ideas, but I don't let that stop me from realising my ideas, but since the game should offer many possibilities, I will make as much as possible optional.
My main priority for the moment is the development between Valerie and MC, but of course I'll do some side stories on the side to make the game a bit more fun. Also there should be the possibility for different sexual games.
Soon there will be possibilities for threesomes and maybe partner-swapping and maybe the porn actor will appear in the game with his own MILF. But as this will not be essential for the course of the game, this is not a priority!

But all this will be optional. As soon as the opportunity for group sex or other fetishes appears, the player will be able to choose whether he wants to see it or not! For example, if the player does not want to see group sex, then it will not take place in his game.
How to make this choice I have to think about, but I think this will happen while watching porn or during in-game conversations.
So Val may ask if MC is interestend in something special in general and Player can answer.
So the options are then activated/deactivated.
In this way nobody has to be bothered by my twisted and perverted ideas.

 

[BangCityGuy]

Talking about possibility of Val MMF scene, i don't know if dev plan to include that but i know he was gonna add those kind of scenes with her friend and maybe with Val as optional scene.

Something from fhe first comming MFM scene in game (optional)

Spoiler: 3some MFM

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[Joejackson]

Hi develop thanks for game
And when is release new version???

 

[BangCityGuy]

Hi develop thanks for game
And when is release new version???

Want to do next smaller release in december. It will contain some more scenes with Valerie and maybe the MFM actions with Diane.

 

[KingWeWuz]

I would like to take this opportunity to explain a few things here.
Basically I would like to offer the player many different possibilities for the gameplay.
The idea, that Valerie has an affair with a young porn actor, should show that Valerie is sexually open-minded and likes young men.
In the progression of the game she meets him less and less and in the current version she doesn't meet him at all. This should help the progress between MC and Valerie.
NTR-aspect: Since there are no scenes with Valerie and the porn actor yet and this doesn't play a big role I made this affair optional. There are also other dialogues that show the whole thing in a different light
The longer I work on this game the more I understand that not everybody likes my ideas, but I don't let that stop me from realising my ideas, but since the game should offer many possibilities, I will make as much as possible optional.

I'm not trying to attack you for your ideas or your story if that's what you're thinking.

I'm asking why do things the way you've done them? For example:

The idea, that Valerie has an affair with a young porn actor, should show that Valerie is sexually open-minded and likes young men.

Wouldn't it have been wayyy more easy to convey this message by the mc discovering she has a porn collection featuring a younger guy? Or maybe have a conversation with the mc that she wants to spice things up in the relationship? Her checking out younger guys while you're with her on a date?

I'm just asking why you chose this specific way of getting a message out. Because even after making it optional, a lot of anti-ntr warriors are still going to view her as an unlovable and unforgivable whore, and the ntr lovers are going to be demanding to watch a scene. It's like you chose a method that conveys your message trying to meet two polarizing groups halfway and as a result made it difficult for both parties to enjoy.

 

[EZ8lt]

I'm not trying to attack you for your ideas or your story if that's what you're thinking.

I'm asking why do things the way you've done them? For example:


Wouldn't it have been wayyy more easy to convey this message by the mc discovering she has a porn collection featuring a younger guy? Or maybe have a conversation with the mc that she wants to spice things up in the relationship? Her checking out younger guys while you're with her on a date?

I'm just asking why you chose this specific way of getting a message out. Because even after making it optional, a lot of anti-ntr warriors are still going to view her as an unlovable and unforgivable whore, and the ntr lovers are going to be demanding to watch a scene. It's like you chose a method that conveys your message trying to meet two polarizing groups halfway and as a result made it difficult for both parties to enjoy.

Last paragraph is certanily that could become a factor, but with the game being developed for so long, it still managed to avoid the crusade and the cuckade, so that seems to be fine.

My issue with that comes from a story telling point of view. We see how Valerie slowly succumbs to the idea to do more and more shit with her son, she even often masturbates as well, but if she's still seeing a porn-star dude, who supposedly could fuck her rather well, then I don't see a reason why she shouldn't visit the dude, to get it out of her system. So while on one hand it can show her being an adventureous women at the beginning, as we progress with the relationship between her and the MC, that thing with just left hanging in the air breaks the logic as we go deeper to the story.

 

[FloridaNed]

Every one is talking about a threesome with Diane, but my game just ended after Mrs. Parker drunkenly 'raped' the MC. So, what's the big idea?

 

[BangCityGuy]

Every one is talking about a threesome with Diane, but my game just ended after Mrs. Parker drunkenly 'raped' the MC. So, what's the big idea?

The 3some will happen in next version.

 

[Paapi]

Any information about Expected release date of next update ??

 

[BangCityGuy]

Any information about Expected release date of next update ??

As always ... I never can promise a certain realease date. But it will be pretty sure released before X-Mas.
A lot of stuff is done for the next version and also a lot of images for the rework version are prepared or done.
So if nothing happens the show will go on and on and on

 

[Paapi]

As always ... I never can promise a certain realease date. But it will be pretty sure released before X-Mas.
A lot of stuff is done for the next version and also a lot of images for the rework version are prepared or done.
So if nothing happens the show will go on and on and on

Second sentence is the answer for me. Thanks for reply.