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Remembrance

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Yea, anyways. I really like the banking part of Banking on Bella. I don't know why ... it's just interesting to me.
Cause that's where the most development takes place. The girls routes are spread out over multiple girls: ex has 1 date, abby has 2 etc. (A reason you don't go exclusive routes with too many girls: Individually they don't get enough development to suddenly support the entire game. Needs more time per girl to flesh them out). The personalities & motivations are well done tho, has potential.
The sex scenes are okay, but could use more choices: in 1st scene you cannot proceed without choosing cunnilingus & in genna scene choosing anal automatically proceeds to rimjob (the cunnilingus block is used fairly often even if I personally dislike it, rimjob was surprising as it often gets complained about & usually gets a choice)

But you spend days in the office the most. You interact with the characters there multiple times more than the others. The characters are colorful with the friendly coworker, slimy superior, kind senior, quirky fran, etc. The plot is also nice & relatable with the mafia plot adding some spice. You also actually see the work instead of "you did some work", adding further sense of realism without getting too deep into the numbers.
I really enjoyed the meetings with Fran, the realisation about the mobster(forgot name), seeing the projects progress etc. on the common route the most. The main reason this game stands imo. (Though I prioritized raising my level & got no benefits:()
Which causes another problem if you replay the game & skip through the best parts, making the game feel emptier.

Dating sims are a dime a dozen. It's the work part, how the main goal is to succeed at work & not get washed out, that sets this game up & apart imo.
 

allanl9020142

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Cause that's where the most development takes place. The girls routes are spread out over multiple girls: ex has 1 date, abby has 2 etc. (A reason you don't go exclusive routes with too many girls: Individually they don't get enough development to suddenly support the entire game. Needs more time per girl to flesh them out). The personalities & motivations are well done tho, has potential.
The sex scenes are okay, but could use more choices: in 1st scene you cannot proceed without choosing cunnilingus & in genna scene choosing anal automatically proceeds to rimjob (the cunnilingus block is used fairly often even if I personally dislike it, rimjob was surprising as it often gets complained about & usually gets a choice)

But you spend days in the office the most. You interact with the characters there multiple times more than the others. The characters are colorful with the friendly coworker, slimy superior, kind senior, quirky fran, etc. The plot is also nice & relatable with the mafia plot adding some spice. You also actually see the work instead of "you did some work", adding further sense of realism without getting too deep into the numbers.
I really enjoyed the meetings with Fran, the realisation about the mobster(forgot name), seeing the projects progress etc. on the common route the most. The main reason this game stands imo. (Though I prioritized raising my level & got no benefits:()
Which causes another problem if you replay the game & skip through the best parts, making the game feel emptier.

Dating sims are a dime a dozen. It's the work part, how the main goal is to succeed at work & not get washed out, that sets this game up & apart imo.
Oh no, I meant I actually like reading about assessing risk, loans, fiduciary:sneaky:, blah blah blah, etc.
It's ... fun for me.

I'm dead-ass. Not even joking.

But you're not wrong on that it adds a certain sense of realism. It's part of what gives the game's story some more "weight". That's what separates good games from cookie-cutter games with superficial writing. A lot of devs here don't seem to get that. This one does. Although for most of them, it probably comes from a lack of experience and/or never having opened a book. Mostly learning about the world through reddit or some other bullshit. Makes them think, "This is how people talk and act!" ThoUGh THough? ThOuGh".
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Rather than a difference in taste, it's more like a difference in the genre. Like an oscar winning movie with sex scenes will always be better in terms of plot & character development than a porn movie but you wouldn't put that on over the porn when you wanna masturbate ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
You can watch both however, just for different goals (quick fap vs long term enjoyment). Similarly I think VNs have the potential to be either & I enjoy both genres of games.

I also don't like sitting with my dick in my hand, but there are exceptions. I remember when I 1st played FateStayNight. I just had some basic understanding of eroges & dl the game from a eroge site. I literally started playing with my dick in my hand :ROFLMAO:
But when the h-scene eventually came(the next day, in a different sitting), I was annoyed at the long sex scene since I was so invested in the plot by then.

I think I described it well when I said "Basically these still feel like sex/porn games with the amount of sex scenes compared to story building, while BaDiK is more like a VN, a story telling journey about well developed characters worth getting invested in, with sex scenes being naturally being a part of the story."

So definitely try it out, just don't start with your dick in your hand:ROFLMAO:
Sit down when you have time, like when you watch a movie or a TV show with nudity/sex scenes & enjoy the story slowly build up the characters & their relations & their problems. BaDiK is definitely not a fap game if that's your only interest in the VN medium.
I think you'll still enjoy it tho. It's really great execution of script to screen using the VN medium.
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Okay, no more BaDiK talk on the BoB thread:censored:
Well, I don't think I've ever played a porn VN that was "oscar worthy" and don't think I ever will, no matter how good it is :ROFLMAO: Most porn games that focus on story ahead of sex scenes, well at the end of the day, yeah, I have to admit will only ever be porn game quality in their writing in my opinion, so that's the lense I view it from. It's never at that point where it's going to make you think real deep on anything or unravel multiple complex layers with glee like a Coen Brothers or Tarantino movie will. And I of course say that with no insult intended towards any dev on this site or any sense of superiority on my part or anything like that. I'm pretty sure we're all aware of the same thing; we're just here to indulge our (often times immature) fantasies and free some milk from the ol' dipper :LOL: Well, most of us anyways. No insult intended ofc to people who just like to read a story that interests them :)

That said...
IN OTHER NEWS. UPDATE - Executive Level Patrons can expect access to the Beta in the next 24-48 hours.
Don't think those filmmakers ever made me salivate :love:
 

Remembrance

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Well, I don't think I've ever played a porn VN that was "oscar worthy" and don't think I ever will, no matter how good it is :ROFLMAO: Most porn games that focus on story ahead of sex scenes, well at the end of the day, yeah, I have to admit will only ever be porn game quality in their writing in my opinion, so that's the lense I view it from. It's never at that point where it's going to make you think real deep on anything or unravel multiple complex layers with glee like a Coen Brothers or Tarantino movie will. And I of course say that with no insult intended towards any dev on this site or any sense of superiority on my part or anything like that. I'm pretty sure we're all aware of the same thing; we're just here to indulge our (often times immature) fantasies and free some milk from the ol' dipper :LOL: Well, most of us anyways. No insult intended ofc to people who just like to read a story that interests them :)

That said...

Don't think those filmmakers ever made me salivate :love:
Yeah. Almost edited out the oscar part. But kept it as hyperbole. I basically meant every game doesn't have to be a fap game. Slow burn games will obviously have better character development & less sex scenes in exchange (the oscar & porn movie represented this)
A better replacement for Oscar might be games like Fate/stay night & Steins;Gate.

It's okay for you as a user to have low expectations, but I don't want devs to settle for making porn games. If you have a story to tell & the talent to do it in a quality that makes me irritated at the eventual sex scene(like Fate/stay night did) go for it.

Also, another point was VN is just a medium. Just like a movie can be filmed as a porn film or as an oscar film, VN's have the same range. So even if most games aren't gonna reach the level of classics, I still judge them on their individual merits, just like you wouldn't put a porn over a good movie in terms of character development or storytelling.
I met atleast one dev who was inspired by F/sn & wanted to make a similar captivating story-telling experience. And I admire the ambition.

The VN medium is perfectly capable of " make you think real deep on anything or unravel multiple complex layers with glee" though I do concede it's unlikely to happen, more for lack of talented ppl working on the medium rather than any demerit of the medium itself. Imagine an interactive Tarantino/Cameron/Nolan movie VN with differing outcomes based on your choices:love:. The potential is there.
(Nolan's whiteboard would become even more incomprehensible. Guy already has such complicated story structures, imagine if he could implement routes & variableso_O)

I don't mind reading a story focused VN as a interactive alternative to watching a TV show (TV show quality also so fluctuating these days, some of these VN actually top those garbage:mad:).

So I support both & wouldn't give fap games any grace on lack of plot & character development; just as I wouldn't give slow burn games any grace on lack of excitement [excitement doesn't have to be sexual, imagine a movie that doesn't pull you in & bores you instead](like you said, the quality/talent is lacking more often than not. VN needs to be a mixture of book & movie styles: just shoving a book/story into renpy line by line with some pictures will not work. You actually have to consider the medium & create a proper script, including visuals like pictures/renders, just like how books have to be turned into movie scripts & cannot be used as is for movie adaptations)
So writting is only one aspect. A great written story might not translate well to another medium if not translated properly. A great paragraph might sound tedious as a long exposition monologue whether in a movie or a VN, with the VN getting the worse of it cause of all the clicking required to get through it.

In my free time I don't mind replacing a book or movie or serial (all mediums of story-telling, all capable of delivering great stories or smut) with another medium of story telling (though quality VNs are lacking, especially by independent devs)

I hope this supports devs who look to produce quality works. Sex doesn't automatically mean low quality, I'm sure I remember a oscar movie that was full of passionate sex scenes.

Ofc making porn VNs is fine, I don't mean to look down on creators who create porn movies, books or games.
But similar to movies, to books, VNs have the potential for high level story-telling & I support that ambition if any dev has it & judge games without genre bias.

Hope you get my pov.
Have a great day:)

Edit: With more & more movie & tv shows releasing directly to streaming platforms, I think the day might come when professional storytellers choose VNs as a interactive medium over making movies or serials. Kaleidoscope was an example of trying to create a customised experience for each viewer.
Television broadcasts or Cinema screenings were not conductive to a personalised storytelling experience, but streaming services delivering to each individual seperately opens up possibilities as kaleidoscope showed. You couldn't choose a personalised watch order of episodes on tv broadcasts after all.
I look forward to how that possibility might pan out...
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Will be interesting to see that changelog after 8 months.. ^^
Can't tell if this is supposed to be passive aggressive :( If so, no need to be rude... Pablo's continued work on the next chapter this whole time and he's made great progress as usual. The coding and bugtesting etc. is what caused the delay afaik, and since they're a team w/ rl job and family... can't expect things to go 100% smoothly 100% of the time. One guy might have weeks of more free time while another might get super busy with work or family. Just how it goes sometimes.

If not and you were being innocent, then I apologize :giggle: But, considering what I just previously said, longer release schedule doesn't always mean more content. Pretty sure this update will be about the same size as usual.

And also, it depends on what type of work was done as well as not all updates are the same. For example, LoML is taking longer and longer because he's doing more and more lude scenes as the relationships have reached their zenith. Basic chatting, day-to-day, introducing characters etc. can reuse poses and expressions and sometimes images. My understanding is lude scenes require lots of reposing and ofc each scene requires multiple renders. I'd imagine the same will occur with this game.. that's just kinda unavoidable as a game gets more developed and complicated.
 

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Can't tell if this is supposed to be passive aggressive :( If so, no need to be rude... Pablo's continued work on the next chapter this whole time and he's made great progress as usual. The coding and bugtesting etc. is what caused the delay afaik, and since they're a team w/ rl job and family... can't expect things to go 100% smoothly 100% of the time. One guy might have weeks of more free time while another might get super busy with work or family. Just how it goes sometimes.

If not and you were being innocent, then I apologize :giggle: But, considering what I just previously said, longer release schedule doesn't always mean more content. Pretty sure this update will be about the same size as usual.

And also, it depends on what type of work was done as well as not all updates are the same. For example, LoML is taking longer and longer because he's doing more and more lude scenes as the relationships have reached their zenith. Basic chatting, day-to-day, introducing characters etc. can reuse poses and expressions and sometimes images. My understanding is lude scenes require lots of reposing and ofc each scene requires multiple renders. I'd imagine the same will occur with this game.. that's just kinda unavoidable as a game gets more developed and complicated.
No need to go on a tangent and regurgitate answers to questions that no one's asked, don't want to come off as passive aggressive now do you?
Nope, just interested in the changelog :)
 

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Until pablo escobar gets another phone call and sends another post, what about this game:

The motive of this game:
The game begins here as a visual novel/dating simulator with options to pursue relationships with various women, and increase your social standing.

We be chasing tale for the forseeable future:

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You can dream of this hottie while spinning fantasies in your head.
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You can wine dine and make you mine this hottie and give yourself the love you deserve

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She is the sole ncentive anyone needs to go get inside.

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Be a snuggle make you warm kind a fluffy teddy bear to land this babe

The next chapter of Banking on Bella is ready
 

PeopleCallMeSmile

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The babe you ditch a date with when you go to that volleyball match
then bomb your club hook up.


This game really makes MC pass shit tests after shit tests,
like some hook up master with this sweetie.
You mean Gena?

>also
You know when is this going to get public?
 

fishbrain

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Until pablo escobar gets another phone call and sends another post, what about this game:

The motive of this game:
The game begins here as a visual novel/dating simulator with options to pursue relationships with various women, and increase your social standing.

We be chasing tale for the forseeable future:

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You can dream of this hottie while spinning fantasies in your head.
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You can wine dine and make you mine this hottie and give yourself the love you deserve

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She is the sole ncentive anyone needs to go get inside.

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Be a snuggle make you warm kind a fluffy teddy bear to land this babe

The next chapter of Banking on Bella is ready
Think that header needs updated? It definitely does not depict the beauty found within LOL
 
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