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Is this actually a harem game, glanced through the comments, and they weren't really clear.
I'm not sure too.
So far you can be on all the girls routes with no exclusivity.
There are exclusivity in events, but the genabooty call event repeats for 2 days so I think that might be so players who say no to the other girls don't have an empty night.
Similarly, the kori sex scene is only got if you didn't progress on the Abby route. However you can still be on her(kori) route by choosing the correct choice earlier. However looking at the text, the next day scene with kori might be similarly dependent on sating yes/no to hannah.
Kori will probably similar to genna in that her scene will be a repeating alternative to the other girls events for those who say no.
Basically, get genna/kori scenes if you don't say yes to the girl who has an event that day :unsure:

This is the only reason I'm following the game to be honest. I don't follow games & just return after a few years to a lot of content, but I'm curious about the structuring of the game & if kori events will be a similar repeating event to the genabootycall

However, with the number of girls already introduced, I think the game has no choice but to go harem at this point. In non-harem exclusive route games you want to limit the girls/routes to around 3-5 on average.
With all the girls having rom/dark routes, there is already a lot of work. Now if it decides to go 'only one girlfriend/relationship' too, I sudder to think the work needed per update relative to it's size: make 8 events but players only see 1. (This is kinda what I wanted to advise on my 1st post here, but that led to the whole replayability bit.)
Not to mention the dev doesn't have the time for that from his post above.

But I understand the wish to keep complex choices with consequences. That makes a game feel very real. Which is why I've been suggesting inclusive choices that actually increase complexity & number of outcomes. Like I had suggested before, the inclusive version of abby/kori choice would actually increase the option from "kori or abby" to "kori or abby or kori&abby", while also bringing stats like charm into consideration.

Anyway, harem games are also of 2 types: real & fake. Real harem games focus on building a proper harem. Fake harem games don't actually focus on actually building a harem, but are harem games by virtue of not restricting the amount of girls you can romance - like a dating sim where you can date multiple ppl.
BoB looks like the 2nd type rn, but I can see a harem happening, especially on the dark routes.

Let's see if the dev provides any clarification how he wants to approach this.
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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We have decide to introduce NTR.

Just fucking with you.

-Over under how long from the time the game leaks that we get the first comment along the lines of, "that was short" or "that's it for X months!?!" I'm going to say third comment...15 mins.

-I worked my IRL job all week busting my ass and in my limited free time I worked on the NEXT update after this one. I get the Beta version a few days ago for this update and discover there are errors.

That meant I had to wake up on my one of two days off from IRL work, tell my wife and friends I was busy and spent my Saturday morning squashing bugs. Now, if it was you, is that how you'd like to spend your Saturday after a long work week? Me either. But I did it and do it.

I'm a real person doing the best I can to drain your balls of high grade baby making juice. I'm trying to make sure you don't go out with a full sack on any given night and impregnate the wrong chick who takes 1/2 your money five years from now (you're welcome by the way).

-So many of you have been beyond supportive on here the last...weeks, months however long and I can't tell you how much that motivates me personally to push thru tough times. This was BY FAR the most difficult update from a technical standpoint. I'm not sure we get there without you guys just leaving supportive comments on here and elsewhere.

I got a DM this morning from a fan that was very kind. When I woke up this morning I was fucking bummed to have to work on QC. But the msg he/she left really gave me the morale boost I needed. Financial support is awesome but a kind fucking word often times gets me in the mood to write, do art or push thru laborious shit.

-Please don't forget the Patrons who do support the game financially and give them a shout out here or on Discord. Honest to God you think my wife would let me spend this kind of time in my basement if we had no financial support?!? These folks make it fucking happen. On Discord, the supporters are some of the nicest fucking people. They deserve your thanks and ours. Much respect.

-Also, a quick thanks to NeonGhosts who continues to be a supporter and a fellow developer/friend I can lean on with ideas and just as a sounding board. thanks homie.

I appreciate you guys sticking with us.
Awww, such a wholesome comment man :cry::D I'm glad two of my favorite devs are buds!

This is probably going to come off as dick sucking to some drive-bys, but who cares, right? Being a consumer and a critic (maybe not a good critic) are the easiest things in the world; overstated, but true. And the people who just leave nothing but naggy comments I honestly think are just lacking in self-awareness, EQ, maturity, etc., or perhaps just have never had the opportunity to create something in their life so don't empathize with any given dev. I mean, they just have no idea that a dev actually creates drama and struggle in their lives all so some complete strangers from across the globe can lessen the load on their sacks a little. Working your ass off to put value out into the world without much, if any, recognition or acknowledgement for it is one of the most painful things a creator can experience. And how often does a dev even make minimum wage from it? And because the naggers have no experience developing a game, they probably don't know how to tell the difference between an excellent dev team that takes longer to update, due to the game's complexity and less personal time to devote to it, and a dev team looking to milk. So, I'm not sure if that helps at all, but changing your perspective on how you view the critics and the drive-bys can sometimes help offset the negative mental load that they throw on your lap, whether intentionally or unintentionally. I suppose mindful meditation would really help with that (i.e., the act of simply focusing on w/e emotions or thoughts pop up when you read a negative comment can itself cushion the fall, so to speak), but I thus far haven't had the patience to try it yet. :LOL: Maybe you'd fare better?

Anyways, I seriously can't describe how excited I am for the next update :D I seriously love your game man and I have nothing but respect for the work you and the rest of your team do (jealous, really.. I've always wanted to attempt a VN myself and I could only hope to make it as high-quality as this game). I consider myself pretty picky when it comes to the games on offer here, especially when it comes to the dialogue; no offense to any other hard-working devs on this site, but there are just so many games that have very awkward, cringe, try-hard dialogue to the point where it legitimately makes me all too aware that I'm not so much experiencing a character in a sex fantasy I wasn't even necessarily aware I wanted, but cybering with a dev who's sitting behind a hot 3d avatar. Yours and a few others absolutely make the cut, though, and it's one of the few threads I take the time to look through just about every day :D I'm not sure what more I could say that wouldn't just be a repeat of things I've already said since I've become a fan, but I do hope you're aware that you're testing the limits of at least one bloke's breeches, roughly in the zipper region :love::giggle:
 

PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Is this actually a harem game, glanced through the comments, and they weren't really clear.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it's a game that's designed to be played more than once. I can't quite remember what the dev's goals are long-term regarding the relationship exclusivity of LIs, but so far you can form relationships with as many or as little characters as your heart desires. The only real limits are that some decisions you make will either delay or entirely cut off your ability to interact with a particular LI (hence, replayability in mind, "choices matter" etc.). If this bothers you, the only thing I can recommend is to try the walkthrough, URM (universal ren'py mod), and make saves on the relevant branching points. I'm not usually a fan of games that limit your LIs in this way, but this game's definitely worth it imo so you should give it a try to see :D
 

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People saying they don't remember the characters or story, well if you can't remember Bella you've got problems! :love:
Eh, well...i honestly don't care for most of the girls, so yeah.
So far the ones i like are the 'maid' and her lil sister, Bella seems interesting and still waiting until the little sis is coming, curios when she will finaly appear...
 

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There are some planned one LI routes. You will have to decide do I follow LI XYZ to California or Davoria or whatever with an ending that is appropriate but will possibly end my game.

There are some multiple LI route(s) "Harem Routes" planned, but not all LI will be in these routes.

The girls of Lake City have their own lives, career goals and motivations. Some will want to move away from Lake City all together for career goals, family, etc., will you go along? Others just won't be interested in your depravity. While, others will be down to clown.

Best example I can give right now with out spoiling story, is Janice. Janice will not be a harem route. But I do have a Janice only ending. More will become clearer with this update around Gena/Kori I think and how some LI will be tackled.

If you are interested in Harem, I would recommend not turning down girls pictured in the Banner, generally speaking.

In short I have endings envisioned that are individual and some multiple LIs (Harem). Probably mudding the water but that's the best I can describe it. I mean it's literally our first game ever, who knows, maybe it all goes down in flames.

*Some girls are based on IRL and in some cases those stories are already written...sadly, career choices, missed signals, stupid arguments etc.
 
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goulet1995

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If you are interested in Harem, I would recommend not turning down girls pictured in the Banner, generally speaking.

*Some girls are based on IRL and in some cases those stories are already written...sadly, career choices, missed signals, stupid arguments etc.
does this mean its all or nothing for the harem route meaning if i reject one of the girls fine with harem does that lock out harem alltogether with everyone else
 

NeonGhosts

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We have decide to introduce NTR.

Just fucking with you.

-Over under how long from the time the game leaks that we get the first comment along the lines of, "that was short" or "that's it for X months!?!" I'm going to say third comment...15 mins.

-I worked my IRL job all week busting my ass and in my limited free time I worked on the NEXT update after this one. I get the Beta version a few days ago for this update and discover there are errors.

That meant I had to wake up on my one of two days off from IRL work, tell my wife and friends I was busy and spent my Saturday morning squashing bugs. Now, if it was you, is that how you'd like to spend your Saturday after a long work week? Me either. But I did it and do it.

I'm a real person doing the best I can to drain your balls of high grade baby making juice. I'm trying to make sure you don't go out with a full sack on any given night and impregnate the wrong chick who takes 1/2 your money five years from now (you're welcome by the way).

-So many of you have been beyond supportive on here the last...weeks, months however long and I can't tell you how much that motivates me personally to push thru tough times. This was BY FAR the most difficult update from a technical standpoint. I'm not sure we get there without you guys just leaving supportive comments on here and elsewhere.

I got a DM this morning from a fan that was very kind. When I woke up this morning I was fucking bummed to have to work on QC. But the msg he/she left really gave me the morale boost I needed. Financial support is awesome but a kind fucking word often times gets me in the mood to write, do art or push thru laborious shit.

-Please don't forget the Patrons who do support the game financially and give them a shout out here or on Discord. Honest to God you think my wife would let me spend this kind of time in my basement if we had no financial support?!? These folks make it fucking happen. On Discord, the supporters are some of the nicest fucking people. They deserve your thanks and ours. Much respect.

-Also, a quick thanks to NeonGhosts who continues to be a supporter and a fellow developer/friend I can lean on with ideas and just as a sounding board. thanks homie.

I appreciate you guys sticking with us.
Aw, thanks for the shout-out, bro-ski! But everyone should really know that the only reason my game doesn't look like crap, is that you took the time to teach me how to light scenes. So, the support goes both ways.

Can't wait for the update! :D
 

Remembrance

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There are some planned one LI routes. You will have to decide do I follow LI XYZ to California or Davoria or whatever with an ending that is appropriate but will possibly end my game.

There are some multiple LI route(s) "Harem Routes" planned, but not all LI will be in these routes.

The girls of Lake City have their own lives, career goals and motivations. Some will want to move away from Lake City all together for career goals, family, etc., will you go along? Others just won't be interested in your depravity. While, others will be down to clown.

Best example I can give right now with out spoiling story, is Janice. Janice will not be a harem route. But I do have a Janice only ending. More will become clearer with this update around Gena/Kori I think and how some LI will be tackled.

If you are interested in Harem, I would recommend not turning down girls pictured in the Banner, generally speaking.

In short I have endings envisioned that are individual and some multiple LIs (Harem). Probably mudding the water but that's the best I can describe it. I mean it's literally our first game ever, who knows, maybe it all goes down in flames.

*Some girls are based on IRL and in some cases those stories are already written...sadly, career choices, missed signals, stupid arguments etc.
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I'm probably thinking too much & misunderstood. Keeping the current fake-harem structure of the game & branching off late, near the endings, should provide a efficient way to make the routes not too exclusive.

(Basically, you only branch near the end. Taking Janice as example, saying yes to janice doesn't affect other routes currently. This can continue until it's near the janice ending, so players can just save, play through the janice ending, & then load back to that point & continue. )
Fake harem as in the games don't actually have a harem but allows you to stay on every girls route almost the whole game, letting you see everything without too much save-scumming or skip-scumming.
Idk if this is the plan. Talking about endings doesn't actually say when the routes would branch, i.e. how much exclusive routes content would be present.
Guess we will see.
Good Luck either way (y)
 
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We have decide to introduce NTR.

Just fucking with you.

-Over under how long from the time the game leaks that we get the first comment along the lines of, "that was short" or "that's it for X months!?!" I'm going to say third comment...15 mins.

-I worked my IRL job all week busting my ass and in my limited free time I worked on the NEXT update after this one. I get the Beta version a few days ago for this update and discover there are errors.

That meant I had to wake up on my one of two days off from IRL work, tell my wife and friends I was busy and spent my Saturday morning squashing bugs. Now, if it was you, is that how you'd like to spend your Saturday after a long work week? Me either. But I did it and do it.

I'm a real person doing the best I can to drain your balls of high grade baby making juice. I'm trying to make sure you don't go out with a full sack on any given night and impregnate the wrong chick who takes 1/2 your money five years from now (you're welcome by the way).

-So many of you have been beyond supportive on here the last...weeks, months however long and I can't tell you how much that motivates me personally to push thru tough times. This was BY FAR the most difficult update from a technical standpoint. I'm not sure we get there without you guys just leaving supportive comments on here and elsewhere.

I got a DM this morning from a fan that was very kind. When I woke up this morning I was fucking bummed to have to work on QC. But the msg he/she left really gave me the morale boost I needed. Financial support is awesome but a kind fucking word often times gets me in the mood to write, do art or push thru laborious shit.

-Please don't forget the Patrons who do support the game financially and give them a shout out here or on Discord. Honest to God you think my wife would let me spend this kind of time in my basement if we had no financial support?!? These folks make it fucking happen. On Discord, the supporters are some of the nicest fucking people. They deserve your thanks and ours. Much respect.

-Also, a quick thanks to NeonGhosts who continues to be a supporter and a fellow developer/friend I can lean on with ideas and just as a sounding board. thanks homie.

I appreciate you guys sticking with us.
Cheers to you and your patrons, mate!

BoB is one of the best AVNs I know, and it deserves much support.

I'm charmed by it's sexy richness, sophisticated elegance of branches, humor and fantasy of the scenario...

Prosper and flourish!
 

thedude

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If you are interested in Harem, I would recommend not turning down girls pictured in the Banner, generally speaking.
Who is the last girl on the right? I don't remember seeing her.

And will the first girl on the left return? She was the very first girl the MC could hook up with.

Anyway, can't wait for the update! I'm loving this game so far.
 

-CookieMonster666-

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Who is the last girl on the right? I don't remember seeing her.
I'm going to guess that's the woman sitting with her friend in the break room when Rob is chatting with the MC. (The friend kept saying "Hrmmm...." and interrupting the conversation.) They at least look reasonably similar, but I'm obviously not totally sure.
And will the first girl on the left return? She was the very first girl the MC could hook up with.
I don't remember seeing a definitive answer on this. My wild guess would be yes, maybe just for another brief sexual encounter (or maybe a chewing out, I suppose). But I don't think she'll ever be any major LI in the game.
Anyway, can't wait for the update! I'm loving this game so far.
Definitely feel the same. Heart.png
 
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I don't remember seeing a definitive answer on this. My wild guess would be yes, maybe just for another brief sexual encounter (or maybe a chewing out, I suppose). But I don't think she'll ever be any major LI in the game.
Considering she is in the banner, I'd guess she's supposed to be a major character. Why put a side/filler/unimportant character there? Banners are supposed to show the main characters, imo.

Thanks for the answers!
 
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-CookieMonster666-

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Considering she is in the banner, I'd guess she's supposed to be a major character. Why put a side/filler/unimportant character there? Banners are supposed to show the main characters, imo.

Thanks for the answers!
Yeah, IDK. She was there during the initial release, but there have been characters since with far more screen time (Gina and Kori, for example) who do not appear in the banner, so I'm not sure we can assume based on that.
 

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Funny you should mention the banner. Looking to rework it actually.

College girl will be back someday. Can a game have too many red heads? If so we might be reaching max capacity. Emma in the wheelchair is different from the girl in the banner. The girl in the banner pops up on D-11 update (which by the way is written and about 1/2 done and will follow the D-10 update we are currently smushing bugs on).

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Funny you should mention the banner. Looking to rework it actually.

College girl will be back someday. Can a game have too many red heads? If so we might be reaching max capacity. Emma in the wheelchair is different from the girl in the banner. The girl in the banner pops up on D-11 update (which by the way is written and about 1/2 done and will follow the D-10 update we are currently smushing bugs on).

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Ah, cool. It was a bit hard to tell zoomed out on the render of Wheelchair Woman. I appreciate all the work you all put into the project! Heart.png
 

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so if you decide not to pull out and come inside there are consequences so when the girl from college returns to the mc's life it will be with a bigger belly or doesn't matter I wonder if Stacy's family will be in the game since she says that his mom and sister love the mc i wonder what they look like
 
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UPDATE: New banner and images on front page. Please be on the look out when scanning for us. Squashing last bugs tonight. Basic framework of a gallery has taken form but very much in beta phase.
Nice banner! The previous one looked great ofc, but this one certainly feels more vibrant; I guess you saturated the colors a little? It's really nice Pablo :) Your game does such a perfect job pulling off slice-of-life without getting boring, just good vibes, and the banner gives off a warmer, cozier feeling which I think matches perfectly! (well, maybe not for the evil fuckboi route :ROFLMAO:)

Glad to see Gena, Kori, and our local phat gas station lady that I'm looking forward to (sorry I'm bad with names :p) made the gallery cut! :love:

The update is getting closer with every passing day; I can feel the heat rising brother... bout to fill up the house with them alley cat yowls boy :BootyTime:

so if you decide not to pull out and come inside there are consequences so when the girl from college returns to the mc's life it will be with a bigger belly or doesn't matter
Just FYI, in games with multiple routes per girl, pregnancy is usually reserved for the tail end of the game because it compounds the workload on the author by a lot, so be careful about getting too excited ;) It's very possible she got an abortion or that MC's swimmers simply just failed to cross the v-ocean... happens all the time, actually; it's something that may surprise many people who've never tried to conceive before (like me, since I just googled it :ROFLMAO:). I think maybe since pregnancy is so often used as a tool for drama by writers, whether movies, tv, books, games, and so on, and we're warned about unsafe sex or sex before marriage etc. by parents and teachers etc., people just sort of assume pregnancy is guaranteed without a condom (not that a ~1 in 5 chance is nothing). So, anyways, it'd be pretty easy for the dev to explain away.

I wonder if Stacy's family will be in the game since she says that his mom and sister love the mc i wonder what they look like
I like your enthusiasm brother, I totally forgot about that. Now you got me a little titilated.. fuckin' her mom and sis would be the ultimate revenge on her cuckfoolery game she's played w/ the MC :sneaky:
 
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