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That's a shame. Before giving up, you should honestly reconsider the way you go about making your game. Expecting an artist to make all of your 2d assets, while being picky with it to boot, is just insane. I hope you offered to pay; that definitely changes things, though I'd imagine a freelance artist might not like the idea of working on someone else's vision for years and years (I'm assuming they opt for the variety of short-term projects, but I have no experience in this of course).

Pre-made assets is the way to go I think, which is why most VNs here are 3d ones. You gotta make your own game, basically. If you really were willing to fork cash over to artists, it'd probably make more sense to hire 3d artists to make unique models for you; it's much easier for multiple 3d artists to maintain the same style than multiple 2d artists; plus, my understanding is that 3d art is much cheaper and easier to make than 2d art.


I had that problem as well. Think we'll just have to deal with it.



BTW, how large will the oreo harem grow, Pablo3000 ? :devilish: I know your players are naughty making impossible requests left and right given your limited time and resources, but if there will be like 1 or even 2 more black girls each with their own interesting personalities like our Gena & Kori, I will be in heaven :love:
The term Oreo (according to Gena) means one white guy with two black girls. So, you will get a throuple, but not a harem.
 

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I liked the return of the volleyball minigame is there going to be more minigames in the future i liked them. Question. Will there be action with girls like Emma (the girl in a wheelchair) or Angela (Hanna's feminist friend) or will they just be background characters?
Thanks for the kind comment. We shy away from mini-games as it tends to split the community between those who like em and those who don't. Plan is for more Emma in the future. No plans for Angela at this time though many have expressed interest in her.

G3 makes sense, but why G3 and not 8?

I've worked a number of jobs, including both after 9/11 and during the recession in america. Your point?

As for the last one, I tried. I did. For about a year and a half I tried. But artists are insane. Got a whole fuckin thing done up in renpy 7.2.2, as well as story and character outlines, about 4k lines of script, and about 6 scenes done. but when it came time to get someone to visualize these, to compose the art and get it done, in 2d, nobody with a stable mentality and the style of art I wanted was willing to work with me. So I'm done. It failed, I failed, whatever sets your heart at ease.
G3 because when G8 came out the Patrons didn't like the look of the converted characters and they also decided that the expense wasn't worth the "upgrade" in both time and cash. Additionally, the number of characters we can get in the scene is approximately double that of G8.

I take no joy in your failure. When we have darkness in our hearts we assume everyone else has darkness in their hearts as well. We tend to only see darkness. Perhaps you could reflect and maybe be more self aware when throwing comments out about how you could just fire up your Daz3D and do what we do. Again, if you need help please feel free to reach out to me. Not everyone has a dark heart wishing failure on others.

i didnt see other mention of this, but is the animation being jerky just on my end or is that normal in this game? This is not a dig at the game btw, im just trying to figure out if its something on my end.
In the beginning of the game or towards the end? If beginning, b/c we used off the shelf stock animations. If in the later, IDK prob b/c I'm doing my own animations in DAZ and Daz is not great for making animations while other Devs are using Blender. I don't have time to learn Blender tbh. I think they are btr later in the game but IDK.

That's a shame. Before giving up, you should honestly reconsider the way you go about making your game. Expecting an artist to make all of your 2d assets, while being picky with it to boot, is just insane. I hope you offered to pay; that definitely changes things, though I'd imagine a freelance artist might not like the idea of working on someone else's vision for years and years (I'm assuming they opt for the variety of short-term projects, but I have no experience in this of course).

Pre-made assets is the way to go I think, which is why most VNs here are 3d ones. You gotta make your own game, basically. If you really were willing to fork cash over to artists, it'd probably make more sense to hire 3d artists to make unique models for you; it's much easier for multiple 3d artists to maintain the same style than multiple 2d artists; plus, my understanding is that 3d art is much cheaper and easier to make than 2d art.


I had that problem as well. Think we'll just have to deal with it.



BTW, how large will the oreo harem grow, Pablo3000 ? :devilish: I know your players are naughty making impossible requests left and right given your limited time and resources, but if there will be like 1 or even 2 more black girls each with their own interesting personalities like our Gena & Kori, I will be in heaven :love:
Oreo Harem will be limited to Gena and Kori. Gena has a Landlady tho so who knows what I might cook up there before its all over.
Thank you for the update, I thoroughly enjoyed the new scenes!

I know there's already an overabundance of LIs, but Hannah's toxic actor friend would sure make for a nice hatefuck ;)
Other than that a walkthrough could be a nice addition, a decent amount of fomo every update on what content I'm unknowingly missing out on. Will check out the Stacy route though after reading the comments

Btw, does someone know how to get this scene from the previews?
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I don't remember that we really got to take advantage of her earlier as the private location suggests
Getting a lot of requests for Angela, the toxic friend. No plans currently but who knows? For sure can not recommend Stacy route enough. I get peeps might not like her but she holds the key (she is pivotal) to a lot of content.

Walk through would consume a lot of time. We'd have to put the game on hold. It's also why we've not gone back to the original art to remaster it, it's garbage, but it would just take away from future updates to work on it.

For that scene I believe you need to fight the dude, win lose or draw she takes you back to the store room. It's a non H-Scene but sets you on the romantic/white knight path if I recall correctly.

The term Oreo (according to Gena) means one white guy with two black girls. So, you will get a throuple, but not a harem.
Technically, correct.
 
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In the beginning of the game or towards the end? If beginning, b/c we used off the shelf stock animations. If in the later, IDK prob b/c I'm doing my own animations in DAZ and Daz is not great for making animations while other Devs are using Blender. I don't have time to learn Blender tbh. I think they are btr later in the game but IDK.
Beginning. Got a bit better after a while. Have not gotten to the end of the content yet. Was mainly the first few animations.
 
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One thing I'm a bit hesitant about on Mallorie's route is the fact she has a boyfriend
I don't want to be some jerk who destroys someone's relationship
Maybe if I'm lucky he'll do that himself.
 
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The MC sees Pandemonium and mentions it will knock Kori out but there is no option to use it, however I see the picture of Kori sleeping. Anyone know how to do that?
Need to have the patch installed correctly first and foremost. If that's taken care of, then you have to be on Gena's dark route first before you can get on Kori's dark route.

The term Oreo (according to Gena) means one white guy with two black girls. So, you will get a throuple, but not a harem.
Sure, but I say an Oreo can have as many cookies as the imagination can make, and I have plenty of cream to go around for them all :cool:

Oreo Harem will be limited to Gena and Kori. Gena has a Landlady tho so who knows what I might cook up there before its all over.
Thinking of Kevin in Shameless fucking Veronica & her mom :love: Hell yeah man!

Getting a lot of requests for Angela, the toxic friend. No plans currently but who knows? For sure can not recommend Stacy route enough. I get peeps might not like her but she holds the key (she is pivotal) to a lot of content.
Yeah, you already have a lot on your plate ofc, so I completely understand if you never do anything with Angela; there's certainly many other ladies that should take priority. But she is fertile grounds for a major grudgefuck :devilish: Even just one scene akin to Gena's 1st (dark) one would be chef's kiss :cool: Er, if your dark route mod dev were interested I mean :whistle:
 

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One thing I'm a bit hesitant about on Mallorie's route is the fact she has a boyfriend
I don't want to be some jerk who destroys someone's relationship
Maybe if I'm lucky he'll do that himself.
I've discovered while making this game that I very much enjoy cucking other dudes. Taking their girls and corrupting or saving them. Not in real life. Just fake life.

I mean don't feel too bad. Her bf/ Aron let his buddy Tod call her a cunt and he choose to hold his hair while he puked over going out with her on her birthday n less (well depending on what route you're on). I mean, he kind of deserves being cucked I think, you seem like a much btr guy for her :)

Plus, her hair is going to grow out and Sofia is going to style it on goth pin up style n the future. You'll want to stick around to see that.
 
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I might have just thought of a way to include Landlady and Childhood friend Anita and Lana in the Harem w/o Stacy. We'll see. But you would still miss a ton of content skipping her or any other "Banner Girl."
Well I'd have Stacy along for the ride anyways, so this doesn't even affect me. Also I know I said I'm taking a break until the game is developed enough to where it's clear the direction the different paths will end up. However when I do come back, even though I'm not a fan of replaying games, I think I will end up having two different saves. One for harem, with as many girls as it possibly allows, unless there's any I just don't like then I'll exclude them. Then another save with the Oreo path, I'm very interested in that one as well, and since they aren't going to be part of the harem, I would still love to see their content and see how that relationship develops. :sneaky:
 

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I've discovered while making this game that I very much enjoy cucking other dudes. Taking their girls and corrupting or saving them. Not in real life. Just fake life.

I mean don't feel too bad. Her bf/ Aron let his buddy Tod call her a cunt and he choose to hold his hair while he puked over going out with her on her birthday n less (well depending on what route you're on). I mean, he kind of deserves being cucked I think, you seem like a much btr guy for her :)

Plus, her hair is going to grow out and Sofia is going to style it on goth pin up style n the future. You'll want to stick around to see that.
Bro you should see my post history I love playing games where I can share my LI
So I'm like the opposite of you lol

Anyway you are right I like to think I'll be a better boyfriend than Aron
I already have lots of romantic ideas for my sweetheart.
 
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I might have just thought of a way to include Landlady and Childhood friend Anita and Lana in the Harem w/o Stacy. We'll see. But you would still miss a ton of content skipping her or any other "Banner Girl."
I know the game has already too many paths but would not it be possible we reach some of the content through other paths. I mean not all of it since it won't make sense to have option otherwise but losing ton of content sounds huge sacrifice for not choosing a girl. I am not specifically talking about Stacy, rather banner girls because when you have to sacrifice big portion of a game only because you don't like a character sounds like a huge trade off and in a way that option forced on you and forced options are always big trouble.

Though, I don't have any suggestion to change this way and even worse, I can't think any other way than to rewrite entire story from scratch, which is not an option. Still I'd like to hear your opinion on it because if you ask me it's a huge risk to take.
 

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I have had another romantic thought guys.

After Mallorie & I get married
I surprise her one night by lighting some candles & putting rose petals all over our marital bed.
I need to show her how much she means to me and that she deserves to be treated like a queen.

And I know I don't have much money, but I can offer her my heart & my soul.

I love you Mallorie sweetheart.
 

Stil996

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was just wondering hows the futa scenes in the game
IIRC Futa refers to a single scene where you could potentially have a one night stand with a Trap. I'm not sure it makes the game worthy of the TAG, anyone coming here because of it will likely be disappointed. (there was another character that I don't think is approachable yet, someone correct me if I'm wrong)
 
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