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I only pointed out Dahmer as an example to say that a blanket "nobody" statement, which seemed to me to be what was implied in the first place, is false. The effect of content on people varies greatly from person to person. I also very specifically said I was not talking about anyone in particular on this site. I have been referring to a very tiny group of people in the world who actually have mental disorders in the vein of things like psychopathy and sociopathy. I have no idea where anyone is getting the idea that I said dark content causes a mental illness. In fact, I said specifically that it does not cause that. (Jeffry Dahmer even says exactly that: claims like "pornography caused it" are only excuses.) What I stated was that it could act as a trigger, potentially influencing someone who already has a mental illness of that type to act on an existing weakness.

I chose the word trigger very intentionally, and the content absolutely can be a trigger. Just like some people have a genetic weakness to become an alcoholic or similar, so some people with dark thoughts can be more predisposed toward psychological influence through content they consume. I also don't believe the content creates a mental disorder, but it absolutely exacerbates it if it already exists.

Anyway, I wasn't saying the dark content shouldn't exist or that anyone who enjoys that is bad in some way. I didn't mean to cause a big off-topic tangent on the thread. I'm obviously not going to change your minds, and you're not going to change mine. So, agree to disagree, I suppose.
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Yeah I agree, this is the wrong place for this kind of debate... particularly since it is such a gray subject with both sides being firmly fixed in speculation.
 
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-CookieMonster666- said:
I only pointed out Dahmer as an example to say that a blanket "nobody" statement, which seemed to me to be what was implied in the first place, is false. The effect of content on people varies greatly from person to person. I also very specifically said I was not talking about anyone in particular on this site. I have been referring to a very tiny group of people in the world who actually have mental disorders in the vein of things like psychopathy and sociopathy. I have no idea where anyone is getting the idea that I said dark content causes a mental illness. In fact, I said specifically that it does not cause that. (Jeffry Dahmer even says exactly that: claims like "pornography caused it" are only excuses.) What I stated was that it could act as a trigger, potentially influencing someone who already has a mental illness of that type to act on an existing weakness.

I chose the word trigger very intentionally, and the content absolutely can be a trigger. Just like some people have a genetic weakness to become an alcoholic or similar, so some people with dark thoughts can be more predisposed toward psychological influence through content they consume. I also don't believe the content creates a mental disorder, but it absolutely exacerbates it if it already exists.

Anyway, I wasn't saying the dark content shouldn't exist or that anyone who enjoys that is bad in some way. I didn't mean to cause a big off-topic tangent on the thread. I'm obviously not going to change your minds, and you're not going to change mine. So, agree to disagree, I suppose.
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I can't speak for other replies, but the only interpretation I was arguing against in yours was the Dahmer comparison that I kinda found distasteful. But I do get what you meant now. Either you misworded or I misunderstood, not worth arguing over that. But I get you now, so my bad for my part :)

And yeah, sorry for the off-topic. I still found it interesting though. Update wait itchies usually lead to this kind of stuff :LOL:
 
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-CookieMonster666- said:
I only pointed out Dahmer as an example to say that a blanket "nobody" statement, which seemed to me to be what was implied in the first place, is false. The effect of content on people varies greatly from person to person. I also very specifically said I was not talking about anyone in particular on this site. I have been referring to a very tiny group of people in the world who actually have mental disorders in the vein of things like psychopathy and sociopathy. I have no idea where anyone is getting the idea that I said dark content causes a mental illness. In fact, I said specifically that it does not cause that. (Jeffry Dahmer even says exactly that: claims like "pornography caused it" are only excuses.) What I stated was that it could act as a trigger, potentially influencing someone who already has a mental illness of that type to act on an existing weakness.

I chose the word trigger very intentionally, and the content absolutely can be a trigger. Just like some people have a genetic weakness to become an alcoholic or similar, so some people with dark thoughts can be more predisposed toward psychological influence through content they consume. I also don't believe the content creates a mental disorder, but it absolutely exacerbates it if it already exists.

Anyway, I wasn't saying the dark content shouldn't exist or that anyone who enjoys that is bad in some way. I didn't mean to cause a big off-topic tangent on the thread. I'm obviously not going to change your minds, and you're not going to change mine. So, agree to disagree, I suppose.
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Not that I WANT to change your mind, but I wonder: have you ever read a paper about this topic or are you just speculating?

Because there is quite the literature about how experiencing "dark fantasies", so to say, vicariously can be quite therapeutical in many ways.
On the other hand if a person wants to experience deviant behaviours in first person because it gets triggered by said content through media we're probably talking about different kinds of problems, not related to the media itself (seeing you mentioned clearly abnormal subjects like serial killers)
 
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Can anyone tell me anything about which girls/paths are mutually exclusive? The walkthroughs on the front page were a little muddled and hard to parse. I'm pretty sure Janice and Sophia are mutually exclusive, but I don't know about the rest. Is there anyone who could clue me in?
 
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Stil996 said:
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Have I missed something posted here?
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Well, I meant in general being a dev, especially of a VN that doesn't make as much, with a job & a family on top of it. That's complicated in and of itself :LOL: It ain't easy or else we'd all be making our own games, wouldn't we? :unsure: And we end up getting it for free anyways. I'd be pretty miffed reading some of the angry whiny shit people post if I was working hard on something and not even getting paid. I don't wanna shit on people just for having on opinion, I'm talking about the really entitled ones.

But I think the devs said at one point, they had their computer & data fucked and had to buy new hardware and redo a chapter or something. So there was that. I think it delayed the game for a year or something, I wasn't around when it happened.
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard said:
Well, I meant in general being a dev, especially of a VN that doesn't make as much, with a job & a family on top of it. That's complicated in and of itself :LOL: It ain't easy or else we'd all be making our own games, wouldn't we? :unsure: And we end up getting it for free anyways. I'd be pretty miffed reading some of the angry whiny shit people post if I was working hard on something and not even getting paid. I don't wanna shit on people just for having on opinion, I'm talking about the really entitled ones.

But I think the devs said at one point, they had their computer & data fucked and had to buy new hardware and redo a chapter or something. So there was that. I think it delayed the game for a year or something, I wasn't around when it happened.
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I couldn't agree more... your post though came out of nowhere, seemed like it was a response to something specific without any clue to what that could be.
 
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oh wow, thx actually lmfao i had no idea that the 'most recent' search option was under account... seems counterintuitive. this whole time i dont rlly use search cause its frustrating having something from 2021 right next to something from 2024..
 
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