VN Ren'Py Completed Bare Witness [Ch. 5] [AlterWorlds]

[kristo0086]

I don't understand. There was a conversation with Heidi during the kiss about slowing down, she should talk to Athena, she doesn 't want to hurt her . I thought there would be a relationship option only with Heidi and she would become an mc girl , but no Heidi just continued to fuck with Athena despite any choice . We were led to the fact that only Heidi can build a relationship ( in the morning in bed Heidi said that she should know which girl you are dating and that she is not jealous ) So what 's the point if Heidi keeps fucking Athena.

 

[Deleted member 3250193]

I don't understand. There was a conversation with Heidi during the kiss about slowing down, she should talk to Athena, she doesn 't want to hurt her . I thought there would be a relationship option only with Heidi and she would become an mc girl , but no Heidi just continued to fuck with Athena despite any choice . We were led to the fact that only Heidi can build a relationship ( in the morning in bed Heidi said that she should know which girl you are dating and that she is not jealous ) So what 's the point if Heidi keeps fucking Athena.

That's addressed in chapter 4. Patience.

 

[kristo0086]

That's addressed in chapter 4. Patience.

I'm waiting.

 

[ItsNotMeToo]

Damn what an unbelievably great game. Each of the girls has something that makes them so enticing, and yet the story is also top notch. From what I've read I know there's no full harem, and seems like I may have picked Zenda over the roommate throuple, but no regrets so far. Just hit the Val opening up to MC, and damn, what a heavy scene, but I feel like those two are perfect for each other. Can't wait to replay it again and explore all the routes.

 

[Ilhares]

Damn what an unbelievably great game. Each of the girls has something that makes them so enticing, and yet the story is also top notch. From what I've read I know there's no full harem, and seems like I may have picked Zenda over the roommate throuple, but no regrets so far. Just hit the Val opening up to MC, and damn, what a heavy scene, but I feel like those two are perfect for each other. Can't wait to replay it again and explore all the routes.

Inclined to agree, the author/artist have presented a number of women, all of whom have their own appeal. Zenda still strikes me as the way to wind up dead in short order, but she's really not bad. Similarly with Val. She's quite likeable, and probably the most 'responsible' of any characters I think the MC meets, but I was creeped out by her stalkery detective work a little bit. Even so, I see dedicating a game path to following her side of things.

What surprised me more was the Heidi/Sadie combo. Focusing on Heidi and not pursuing Athena, then getting frisky with Sadie made for an interesting costume party. I really hadn't anticipated that one, and the interaction with Heidi during was a bit of a surprise. Kinda makes me wish I knew somebody a lot more like her in daily life.

 

[ItsNotMeToo]

Inclined to agree, the author/artist have presented a number of women, all of whom have their own appeal. Zenda still strikes me as the way to wind up dead in short order, but she's really not bad. Similarly with Val. She's quite likeable, and probably the most 'responsible' of any characters I think the MC meets, but I was creeped out by her stalkery detective work a little bit. Even so, I see dedicating a game path to following her side of things.

What surprised me more was the Heidi/Sadie combo. Focusing on Heidi and not pursuing Athena, then getting frisky with Sadie made for an interesting costume party. I really hadn't anticipated that one, and the interaction with Heidi during was a bit of a surprise. Kinda makes me wish I knew somebody a lot more like her in daily life.

Yeah that night over with Val completely changed my perception of her character, I feel like of all the LIs she's the one most equipped to handle MC on an emotional level, which will be needed after the ending to Chapter 3.

Zenda I went with on the date instead of staying home, and I've pursued her somewhat, but it's sort of funny, as the story progresses and she falls for MC more, it almost feels like there's starting to be more disconnect with my MC and her as long-term relationships. She comes across as 'my way or the highway' type of woman, and with daddy's money she's not tied down to anyone she doesn't pick. Just feels like MC is 'the one' for now, and at some point this 'fling' will end and she'd move on. Maybe I'm off-base with what is planned for her, but I sort of feel like there's the least amount of connection with her out of all the LIs.

Also, my theory:

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[ItsNotMeToo]

Now that I think about it...

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[Ilhares]

Now that I think about it...

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Maybe, but I don't know.

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All things considered, he could be in much worse circumstances.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

Inclined to agree, the author/artist have presented a number of women, all of whom have their own appeal. Zenda still strikes me as the way to wind up dead in short order, but she's really not bad. Similarly with Val. She's quite likeable, and probably the most 'responsible' of any characters I think the MC meets, but I was creeped out by her stalkery detective work a little bit. Even so, I see dedicating a game path to following her side of things.

What surprised me more was the Heidi/Sadie combo. Focusing on Heidi and not pursuing Athena, then getting frisky with Sadie made for an interesting costume party. I really hadn't anticipated that one, and the interaction with Heidi during was a bit of a surprise. Kinda makes me wish I knew somebody a lot more like her in daily life.

So if we are involved with Heidi and Athena, do we still get Heidi and Sadie or are they mutually exclusive? Right now I am romancing Heidi, Athena, Mora and Sadie, but I don't remember anything with Heidi and Sadie at the costume party.

 

[Uriel ☁]

So if we are involved with Heidi and Athena, do we still get Heidi and Sadie or are they mutually exclusive? Right now I am romancing Heidi, Athena, Mora and Sadie, but I don't remember anything with Heidi and Sadie at the costume party.

Basically there are some combo paths:

• Heidi+Athena (confirmed)
• Heidi+Sadie (confirmed)
• Heidi+Athena+Mora (confirmed)
• Heidi+Athena+Mora+Sadie (hinted but to my knowledge not yet confirmed)

 

[Ilhares]

So if we are involved with Heidi and Athena, do we still get Heidi and Sadie or are they mutually exclusive? Right now I am romancing Heidi, Athena, Mora and Sadie, but I don't remember anything with Heidi and Sadie at the costume party.

I do believe you have answered your own question, good ser. At least insofar as I've played the game, any combination that included Athena excluded the Sadie frisky interaction at the party. I presume this is because you then go home to Athena and/or Heidi.

 

[Ive-11]

"NOT traditional Harem" what does even meant? if i pick wrong decision girls will reject mc?

pls give me some spoiler

 

[muschi26]

"NOT traditional Harem" what does even meant? if i pick wrong decision girls will reject mc?

pls give me some spoiler

If you go "harem route", you get multiple girls, but not every last possible love interest. It's more like a "mini-harem" polyamory thing.

 

[Ive-11]

If you go "harem route", you get multiple girls, but not every last possible love interest. It's more like a "mini-harem" polyamory thing.

so girls its like "i can fuck whoever i like" or she can only fuck whoever is as long mc agree(cuckold)?

 

[MrFriendly]

so girls its like "i can fuck whoever i like" or she can only fuck whoever is as long mc agree(cuckold)?

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Mini-harem meaning that 3-4 girls (in this game I believe Heidi, Athena, the cousin, and the redhead) are okay with being in a joint relationship and sharing the MC but that Zenda and the Milf may only want 1 on 1 monogamous relationships. The milf even says something to the MC if he goes and has fun with the shop owning MILF.

And yeah, I am that terrible with remembering names in real life too...

 

[Ilhares]

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Mini-harem meaning that 3-4 girls (in this game I believe Heidi, Athena, the cousin, and the redhead) are okay with being in a joint relationship and sharing the MC but that Zenda and the Milf may only want 1 on 1 monogamous relationships. The milf even says something to the MC if he goes and has fun with the shop owning MILF.

And yeah, I am that terrible with remembering names in real life too...

There's at least a minor mnemonic to help you. The 4-way is the HAMSandwich. Heidi, Athena, Mora, Sadie. Val didn't seem too concerned that you might bed another woman, she just really didn't want it to be the blonde shop worker.

 

[MrFriendly]

There's at least a minor mnemonic to help you. The 4-way is the HAMSandwich. Heidi, Athena, Mora, Sadie. Val didn't seem too concerned that you might bed another woman, she just really didn't want it to be the blonde shop worker.

Ah, yeah. I should have remembered that since I am anti-ham sandwich in this game. TBH I am rather anti-harem in games. I don't expect realism in a game, especially a porn game, but I find the whole "happy harem" trope/cliche/whatever to be disappointing and overused. It's usually done to appease fans or to make writing a story simpler. While so many are happy to have all these women decide the MC is the "ONE" who can have them all it does the opposite for me. It makes me avoid the characters completely, even if the MC could have one of them in a monogamous relationship. I'm just really tired of harems in games these days.

Just me, I know I am weird... Kind of obvious since I self-identify as a grouch who lives in a garbage can.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Ah, yeah. I should have remembered that since I am anti-ham sandwich in this game. TBH I am rather anti-harem in games. I don't expect realism in a game, especially a porn game, but I find the whole "happy harem" trope/cliche/whatever to be disappointing and overused. It's usually done to appease fans or to make writing a story simpler. While so many are happy to have all these women decide the MC is the "ONE" who can have them all it does the opposite for me. It makes me avoid the characters completely, even if the MC could have one of them in a monogamous relationship. I'm just really tired of harems in games these days.

Just me, I know I am weird... Kind of obvious since I self-identify as a grouch who lives in a garbage can.

You're not alone. While I'm going with the HAMSandwich, I'm just totally over harems. At least it's not that bad in this game. It super cringe when it's like 10+ women.

 

[MrFriendly]

You're not alone. While I'm going with the HAMSandwich, I'm just totally over harems. At least it's not that bad in this game. It super cringe when it's like 10+ women.

Yeah, I just don't like the whole "MC is so perfect a human being/fuck partner that 3-40 women will all take a number and stand in line to be fucked/loved" games. Not saying this is going to be like that, but for me it is a matter of time/resources devoted to an aspect of a game I am not interested in.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Yeah, I just don't like the whole "MC is so perfect a human being/fuck partner that 3-40 women will all take a number and stand in line to be fucked/loved" games. Not saying this is going to be like that, but for me it is a matter of time/resources devoted to an aspect of a game I am not interested in.

Not only that, but I can't help but think about how exhausting it would be to be in a relationship with multiple women like that IRL. oof, no thanks.