VN Ren'Py Completed Bare Witness [Steam Build] [AlterWorlds]

[608xperience]

Does anyone know when development on this started? I LOVED Pathfinder Kingmaker (video game) and was curious if it had anything to do with Mora being into Pathfinder. If you read this and like RPG video games and don't know what Kingmaker is...go look it up. You can thank me later.

Coding began on Saturday March 13, 2021 04:36:03 EST. Presumably, Storm will have started writing the story prior to Slockie beginning the coding, but that's the general timeframe. If you've played through and seen the call between Mora and Hannah regarding the rules, that relationship came about by way of Droosk (the creator of Between Two Worlds) being IRL friends with Storm. Both Storm and Droosk play Pathfinder IRL and I believe that Storm still has a weekly game that he runs.

As for how I was so exact about coding time, Ren'Py uses a UNIX epoch timestamp (number of seconds elapsed since Jan. 1, 1970) when it seeds the save directory name when a project is first created. In this game's case, the save directory is defined as "BareWitness-1615628163". First convert it to UTC and then make the adjustment to EST because Slockie's on the US east coast. Presto, we have mid-March 2021.

 

[608xperience]

Nice catch! She is stunning also, wish we could have swapped Zenda for her tbh

If you like her, you'll want to be sure to get their next game, Heaven's Door. She'll be in it.

 

[bigguy_foryou]

then you should probably stop fucking Heidi

How?

 

[608xperience]

Does anyone know when development on this started? I LOVED Pathfinder Kingmaker (video game) and was curious if it had anything to do with Mora being into Pathfinder. If you read this and like RPG video games and don't know what Kingmaker is...go look it up. You can thank me later.

Following up: Storm says that "Pathfinder was chosen solely because I use it for tabletop. I have played Kingmaker, but far preferred Wrath of the Righteous. Also, writing began in December of 2020."

 

[Darksavior]

A couple I keep noticing (because you can't not):

My favorite one was the girl who passes the hell out here

Spoiler: lmaoo are you okay annie

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[Draugo]

I tried to like it but I just can't stand games that go half measures with the harem. It's just always so annoyingly convoluted and transparent. "Hey, can we have a date tonight?" "Yeah sure" "Btw we decided to hold an impromptu movie and pizza night just tonight that we don't do on any other night ever, would be a shame if you had anything planned".

Even with the mod the decisions are annoying. There's no rhyme or reason why things lead where they lead, or what the "at most 4" are at any point. Seriously it's annoying just for the sake of being annoying. If your story already allows for 4 LIs in the harem then arbitrarily deciding that's the most you can get does not add "replay value", it just makes the plot look like bad for the player just for the sake of being bad.

Seriously, takes all the fun out of the story. Either go full harem or embrace the "replay value"

 

[TonyMurray]

I tried to like it but I just can't stand games that go half measures with the harem. It's just always so annoyingly convoluted and transparent. "Hey, can we have a date tonight?" "Yeah sure" "Btw we decided to hold an impromptu movie and pizza night just tonight that we don't do on any other night ever, would be a shame if you had anything planned".

Even with the mod the decisions are annoying. There's no rhyme or reason why things lead where they lead, or what the "at most 4" are at any point. Seriously it's annoying just for the sake of being annoying. If your story already allows for 4 LIs in the harem then arbitrarily deciding that's the most you can get does not add "replay value", it just makes the plot look like bad for the player just for the sake of being bad.

Seriously, takes all the fun out of the story. Either go full harem or embrace the "replay value"

Well, the four that make up MASH all cross paths and if it's going to happen, then it's a group it makes sense for - Sadie being the most removed from that group. Zenda and Val are not even known by the other girls. There's nowhere in the story that it makes sense for them to join the harem. I know you'll probably say that it either doesn't matter, or that the devs therefore need to make those introductions happen, but I just can't see how it would make any sense. Both those girls are against you seeing other girls, they're not going to share you (Zenda didn't really want to with Maddie, and when it was done, it was a case of "Right, experiment over, it's just you and me now.") Sadie basically tells you how it will work on the Sadie/Heidi path - she doesn't want to lose you, so if the only way to avoid it is to share you, she's willing to give it a try.

 

[starfarts]

I just finished and ended up on the Sadie solo route, which pissed me off completely. I'd been with Heidi/Athena and everything was going great, I thought I'd end up with HAS. But it just completely

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and there's zero closure whatsoever, even though it was obvious I'd knocked up Heidi.

Is there even a HAS route at all? If so, how do I get there? Thanks for any pointers!

 

[SlowGoesSlow]

I just finished and ended up on the Sadie solo route, which pissed me off completely. I'd been with Heidi/Athena and everything was going great, I thought I'd end up with HAS. But it just completely

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and there's zero closure whatsoever, even though it was obvious I'd knocked up Heidi.

Is there even a HAS route at all? If so, how do I get there? Thanks for any pointers!

Nah, for groups there's only Heidi/Athena, Heidi/Sadie, HAM (Heidi/Athena/Mora), and MASH (Mora/Athena/Sadie/Heidi)

 

[MiltonPowers]

I just finished and ended up on the Sadie solo route, which pissed me off completely. I'd been with Heidi/Athena and everything was going great, I thought I'd end up with HAS. But it just completely

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and there's zero closure whatsoever, even though it was obvious I'd knocked up Heidi.

Is there even a HAS route at all? If so, how do I get there? Thanks for any pointers!

There is no HAS route.

 

[Uller the Hunter]

Is there even a HAS route at all? If so, how do I get there? Thanks for any pointers!

no lol

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

The black ooze coming out from Val's eyes is concerning though ...

I guess you forget that ladies wear make-up? and when they cry, that tends to happen.

The baby is a bit creepy looking to me though.

 

[starfarts]

Nah, for groups there's only Heidi/Athena, Heidi/Sadie, HAM (Heidi/Athena/Mora), and MASH (Mora/Athena/Sadie/Heidi)

What the fuck, how is that even possible!?! It's obviously the natural ending. Now I feel totally let down. I guess I'll try for MASH, but only half-heartedly. Is there a guide to that route?

 

[Avaron1974]

I just finished and ended up on the Sadie solo route, which pissed me off completely. I'd been with Heidi/Athena and everything was going great, I thought I'd end up with HAS. But it just completely

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and there's zero closure whatsoever, even though it was obvious I'd knocked up Heidi.

Is there even a HAS route at all? If so, how do I get there? Thanks for any pointers!

There is no HAS route.

There is HAM, MASH, HA, HS and the solo routes.

The black ooze coming out from Val's eyes is concerning though ...

That's mascara.....

 

[FatGiant]

That's mascara.....

You could have said:

Tell me you never seen a woman up close, without telling me you never saw a woman up close.

Peace

 

[608xperience]

I tried to like it but I just can't stand games that go half measures with the harem. It's just always so annoyingly convoluted and transparent. "Hey, can we have a date tonight?" "Yeah sure" "Btw we decided to hold an impromptu movie and pizza night just tonight that we don't do on any other night ever, would be a shame if you had anything planned".

Even with the mod the decisions are annoying. There's no rhyme or reason why things lead where they lead, or what the "at most 4" are at any point. Seriously it's annoying just for the sake of being annoying. If your story already allows for 4 LIs in the harem then arbitrarily deciding that's the most you can get does not add "replay value", it just makes the plot look like bad for the player just for the sake of being bad.

Seriously, takes all the fun out of the story. Either go full harem or embrace the "replay value"

There are officially 11 paths (unofficially, 12), so I'd call that replay value galore. Every one of the CH5 endings are unique. As for no rhyme nor reason for the choices, I just don't get that at all. It's pretty clear that for any of the poly paths that include Heidi,

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If Mora is involved, e.g., MASH, you'll want to balance your choices there.

Not necessarily obvious, but the hobbies you choose in your conversation with Val matter.

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Those choices change the weighting for the various paths.

Full disclaimer: I'm a beta tester for the title, so my very biased opinion is very biased.

 

[608xperience]

Sadie basically tells you how it will work on the Sadie/Heidi path - she doesn't want to lose you, so if the only way to avoid it is to share you, she's willing to give it a try.

And if you've foolishly squandered your Heidi love points elsewhere, the outcome at the Halloween party is dramatically different on the Heidi/Sadie throuple attempt. Get it wrong and it devolves into Sadie Solo.

 

[608xperience]

What the fuck, how is that even possible!?! It's obviously the natural ending. Now I feel totally let down. I guess I'll try for MASH, but only half-heartedly. Is there a guide to that route?

I'd expect the Sancho mod to be a treat, since you're already completely locked into any path prior to CH5. That said, MASH can be done with the following steps from the start:

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[Kylemnb]

Does anyone have a save either at the end of Ch. 4 or start of Ch. 5 on the MASH route? During my playthrough I somehow messed it up so I was strict ASH route but the ending of just MC and Sadie on their own so I'd like to see the ending for all of MASH

 

[bigfuckinE]

is there a complete walkthrough for this yet? i can't find one. anyways can someone just tell me: is it possible to get first in the dance competition with Heidi?