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I 100% agree with you on the part of not being possible to have both, and neither would that make sense since you havent foreshadowed anything to do with cuckqueaning.
What I was criticizing is that her actions felt completely out of character. While yes, the MC should be surprised and taken aback, the reader should have some sort of clue that she is the kind of girl to do it, even if it is with the reasons you described. That being done with internal monologue, past actions, build up or a flashback is all up to you. I personally think it would have a bigger impact and wouldn't leave a sour taste, if for instance, after introducing jason, she watches MC and GF make out in the pool, realizes all her efforts are worthless and then on the next day moves on as you build up more and more the character of Jason. Having them do it in a timespam of 10 minutes just seems way too sudden. (And even in extraordinaire cases that involve alcohol, you would need to build up the fact that she is under the influence of it.)
Do remember that although the reader is playing the MC, he is not the MC. He is the reader. Same rules apply when the narrator is the MC. If something happens too suddenly and without build up, the reader will either lose track, lose interest or feel betrayed. You dont want non of those to happen to the reader, you want the MC to feel it and reader to feel bad for him. (Ironically, you actually described this pretty well on the dialogue with Jenni)
And dont take any of this in a bad way, take it as constrcutive criticism, because overall the game is great, but I think you will agree that it can be improved, and character development/building is in my opinion what needs some work.
Well I would have to agree that her interactions with Jason are out of character for several reasons, first she just met the guy. If she really is a virgin and that was her first kiss, would she let some dude she did not know from Adam go that far with her. I don't really see it no matter how charming he might be, it is just not something about her character that you have established to the player. Also she has just indicated that she was interested in the MC, and the player has made an effort to show interest in her, yet she still throws herself at a guy who literally just walked into the party, that is very unrealistic, for the love path. I could see it for the lust path as then the MC would have either spurned her advance or shown interest in multiple other women and not much interest in how she felt. But for the love path, the MC is making an effort to understand her feeling and return them.
It also has no buildup for this action, she pores her hear out to the MC the day before, takes a shower with him that morning and in every other regard returns his advances towards her. To have her just allow this guy she just met to go as far as he has just seems out of character, as the character has been presented to the player. A kiss yes, fondling her breasts maybe, exposing her breast in front of the man she just confessed to love, and allowing him to finger her, No.
As for the Fiance getting angry about the MC stepping in, well in this situation you have a complete stranger, taking advantage of the MC's BF from childhood who is clearly drunk or tipsy. In real life I would step in and kick the crap out of the guy. The MC has no idea who he is, the only person vouching for him is a woman the MC literally met yesterday and the MC's BF has not seen in years and neither one really knows anything about. He also just showed up without the MC's knowledge to the MC house and party. Then he started making moves on and sexually assaulting, she is drunk, one of the MC's best friends. If that happened in real life the guy would be lucky to get out of the party alive.
Depending on the path chosen, she is not being friend zoned, I made every choice that was available to try and romance her and return her affection and she still accepted the other guys advances, a guy she didn't even know until a few minutes ago? In this instance even if the player is wanting the MC to chase Jenni and not his fiance, they are not given the option because this guys shows up and Jenni gives into his advances.I agree. I find it hard to imagine a girl like Jenni getting friendzoned that hard without quickly turning to someone from the tens of thousands of guys living in her city who would easily fuck/date her, no matter how innocent or inexperienced she is.
Jeez... Seems like the dev managed to piss off his entire fan base, the NTR and the non NTR (well the promise of non NTR path) crowd equally, that's quite an accomplishment... Bravo...@TheTypist, man I really don't understand what you did now. I was so hyped because chapter 1 and 2 were so good, but you lost me at chapter 3. Remember when I told you about respect the characters personality and the game's universe?
My critic about the routes:
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Yikes, if that's true how the hell is that a love route? That's pretty unacceptable. Like I'm actually in shock the dev thinks that's ok for a love path.@TheTypistThis is supposed to be a non-NTR path, but it looks like you don't know how to write one, because at first chapter is just introduction and is ok, second chapter you revealed the MC can't satisfy his fiancee because he can't last long and the third chapter is worse, because his fiancee prefers more a dildo than MC that you reveal to be bigger than him and Claire has a fast orgasm where the MC failed(2nd chapter) and for the grand finale Jenni says she likes the MC but she lets another man fingers her pussy without resistance and you don't show if the "yell" worked. I honestly suggest you delete this path and focus on NTR path
I have to agree with this, it would make much more sense to the entire route.About the Lust route =
Why did the mc change his mind and pull a gun on them? That has to be answered.
Second, can we "reword" Daryl's scene in the hospital where instead of him blackmailing her, she willing does this out of guilt? At worst, he could say "Why should you even be here? You are the reason he shot me! Either get out or make it count!" And she'd be all over him. In this case, Claire would consider her relationship with the MC to be over. Or she could be conflicted. That would set up the MC having to figure out how to get her back.
As for Daryl i would rather the mc stop him before he is even able to enter the house i mean how the hell did he enter is there no door to stop people from wondering in unanounced ? if i have house like that i would have security guards preventing theft and all that. but it is just a game.Regarding the Love route =
My thinking is that after yelling at Jason, he stops it and either Jason gets beat up or forced to leave. Then another gal could come onto someone else and they find out their drinks were "altered" or sth. That could explain EVERYTHING and offer an opportunity because some of the substance was left behind.
About the Lust route =
Why did the mc change his mind and pull a gun on them? That has to be answered.
Second, can we "reword" Daryl's scene in the hospital where instead of him blackmailing her, she willing does this out of guilt? At worst, he could say "Why should you even be here? You are the reason he shot me! Either get out or make it count!" And she'd be all over him. In this case, Claire would consider her relationship with the MC to be over. Or she could be conflicted. That would set up the MC having to figure out how to get her back.