VN Ren'Py Completed Become a Rock Star [v1.01] [Mr Jet]

[Darkonalia]

well you should care if pay for 1 year like for updates and dont get any Milky City was my last sub now I pay for updates when is aut I sub for 2 months with 20 25 or depending on updated

I'm a patron for Mr Jet, since last May I guess. So I pay for updates too

 

[AchedCroissant]

*sigh* What do you want me to say? That I screwed up the dates? Yes, I screwed up. I didn't take into account that the proofreading would take longer because there was more text in the script, too. As you can understand, my English is far from perfect, so proofreading is hard work, and I can't rush the enthusiasts who help me make the project better.

Honestly, all this hostility seems excessive to me (I'm not talking specifically about your post). I paused on Patreon in January, even though I've been working hard on this update all that month. It will come out for all Patron $5 Tier and above at the same time, without delay. Also, I said that everyone who was my Patron in January or December but is no longer a Patron will also receive the new version. What else should I do?

I learned my lesson for the future, no dates. Not even an estimate. Any plans that may go wrong are definitely going to go wrong, but at least this way you won't get blamed. And, of course, in the future, I'll make a priority on shorter updates. I guess that will be less of a headache for me, and you won't feel cheated because of the long wait times.

PS. Please no need to defend me under this post or anything like that. I understand why some people are upset about the extra wait time and my incorrect predictions about the release date, and I'm just giving my opinion and explaining the whole situation from my perspective. As for the release date, once again, the script is currently being proofread. As soon as it's finished, you'll get a release right away. That's it.

For the future when they ask you again, save this image

 

[Avaron1974]

It's like I said in other threads, this is the exact reason a lot of the bigger devs don't give release dates anymore.

If there is any sort of delay the whining goes to a whole new level.

A lot of devs now are just saying it will be out when it's ready and that's as much of an ETA as they are giving.

 

[jean michel]

I learned my lesson for the future, no dates. Not even an estimate. Any plans that may go wrong are definitely going to go wrong, but at least this way you won't get blamed. And, of course, in the future, I'll make a priority on shorter updates. I guess that will be less of a headache for me, and you won't feel cheated because of the long wait times.

Good plan, the only plan who can't go wrong and solve most issues at once, you should have done like this a long time ago tbh

I'm following your updates for a while now, peoples are angry at the delay, that's how good your game is. I see it that way.

I'm looking forward to the next update, in any case, great work !

 

[Volcanoid]

Why do you write big replies? Use that time to proofread. I think the biggest problem of many developers is they don't know how to manage, and estimate the time. If you estimate the required time is 10 days, then at least plan for 2 and half amount of time to release the game. Plan for working hours instead of days, for instance if you plan for 10 days, you practically can work for less than that since you have to spend time for sleeping, cleaning, entertainment, and other works. If it says 10 days, it means 8 to 17 h; hence 9 hours. 9x10/24 = 3.75 days, which means you have to plan for 3.75 x2 = 7.5 days (excluding week ends), 9 hours per day. As you see 10 days means actually 3.75 days. Don't estimate like that, otherwise you end up delaying the project. You don't work everyday, in every hour right? If estimate for 10 days, it means you actually need 26.66 days minimum, and 66.65 planned days. Divide the workload into smallest possible unit, and allocate a time to complete it, then sum them together to find the final estimation time.

 

[Volcanoid]

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There is but not much I wish there were more and I think that if Lisa discovers that you are with other girls she will leave you and she and Jade will become girlfriends

Threesome != Lesbian content.

 

[moskyx]

Why do you write big replies? Use that time to proofread. I think the biggest problem of many developers is they don't know how to manage, and estimate the time. If you estimate the required time is 10 days, then at least plan for 2 and half amount of time to release the game. Plan for working hours instead of days, for instance if you plan for 10 days, you practically can work for less than that since you have to spend time for sleeping, cleaning, entertainment, and other works. If it says 10 days, it means 8 to 17 h; hence 9 hours. 9x10/24 = 3.75 days, which means you have to plan for 3.75 x2 = 7.5 days (excluding week ends), 9 hours per day. As you see 10 days means actually 3.75 days. Don't estimate like that, otherwise you end up delaying the project. You don't work everyday, in every hour right? If estimate for 10 days, it means you actually need 26.66 days minimum, and 66.65 planned days. Divide the workload into smallest possible unit, and allocate a time to complete it, then sum them together to find the final estimation time.

He's not writing big replies instead of proofreading cause that's a task he outsources (basically because he's not a native English speaker) so right now he's kind of free to do whatever he fancies, like writing big replies. Also, I'd assume that whenever someone talks about x 'days of work' is actually considering their average working hours, so 10 days aren't 240 hours of work but maybe 80-100 hours - they just estimate the amount of work needed and how many hours would take them, and given they know how many hours they can invest per day, they get to those 10 days, just how you're explaining as if it was the Revealed Truth or the ultimate managing pro tip.

So that's not the problem, the delays appear because they simply can't estimate how tricky those final tasks will end up being and what they thought it would take 4 hours it actually takes 8 or more because some nasty bug appears or they failed to realise this time the script to proofread was twice as large as before.

 

[Avaron1974]

Why do you write big replies? Use that time to proofread. I think the biggest problem of many developers is they don't know how to manage, and estimate the time. If you estimate the required time is 10 days, then at least plan for 2 and half amount of time to release the game. Plan for working hours instead of days, for instance if you plan for 10 days, you practically can work for less than that since you have to spend time for sleeping, cleaning, entertainment, and other works. If it says 10 days, it means 8 to 17 h; hence 9 hours. 9x10/24 = 3.75 days, which means you have to plan for 3.75 x2 = 7.5 days (excluding week ends), 9 hours per day. As you see 10 days means actually 3.75 days. Don't estimate like that, otherwise you end up delaying the project. You don't work everyday, in every hour right? If estimate for 10 days, it means you actually need 26.66 days minimum, and 66.65 planned days. Divide the workload into smallest possible unit, and allocate a time to complete it, then sum them together to find the final estimation time.

Scott Steiner comes to F95.

 

[Kakato]

Trolls is a cancer. Don't feed it. My mistake for giving importance to an asshole without balls. The type of guy which in true life hides behind a corner to throw little rocks at his foes. A true champion.

 

[Volcanoid]

Spoken like a true believer...

I am not happy the game being delayed too, but you behave like a typical sjw.

 

[Volcanoid]

Don't be a simp my frend... please

Simp how? I am not paying him to complain about the game. If he releases I am happy, otherwise whatever. You go and do something productive, or find something else to jerk off. You waste your time. When mod comes here, your replies will be gone.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

*sigh* What do you want me to say? That I screwed up the dates? Yes, I screwed up. I didn't take into account that the proofreading would take longer because there was more text in the script, too. As you can understand, my English is far from perfect, so proofreading is hard work, and I can't rush the enthusiasts who help me make the project better.

Honestly, all this hostility seems excessive to me (I'm not talking specifically about your post). I paused on Patreon in January, even though I've been working hard on this update all that month. It will come out for all Patron $5 Tier and above at the same time, without delay. Also, I said that everyone who was my Patron in January or December but is no longer a Patron will also receive the new version. What else should I do?

I learned my lesson for the future, no dates. Not even an estimate. Any plans that may go wrong are definitely going to go wrong, but at least this way you won't get blamed. And, of course, in the future, I'll make a priority on shorter updates. I guess that will be less of a headache for me, and you won't feel cheated because of the long wait times.

PS. Please no need to defend me under this post or anything like that. I understand why some people are upset about the extra wait time and my incorrect predictions about the release date, and I'm just giving my opinion and explaining the whole situation from my perspective. As for the release date, once again, the script is currently being proofread. As soon as it's finished, you'll get a release right away. That's it.

Truth be told no one here, other than your patrons, deserves a explanation over dates when they are getting things for free. Specially when they act like a bunch of entitled leachers.

So do your thing MrJet (your game is great) and don't let any pressure from those kind of people bother you.

 

[Volcanoid]

Truth be told no one here, other than your patrons, deserves a explanation over dates when they are getting things for free. Specially when they act like a bunch of entitled leachers.

So do your thing MrJet (your game is great) and don't let any pressure from those kind of people bother you.

hey, we are freeloaders not leachers.

 

[glassofwater22]

Before this game ends, I want to see a threesome with these babes:

1. Catherine and Rosa
2. Anna and Catherine

These two threesomes NEEEEEED to happen!

 

[xfam0us]

Which date it is being released is not the problem, its the wait between updates... half a year for an update is way too long

 

[spas]

Which date it is being released is not the problem, its the wait between updates... half a year for an update is way too long

I m totally agree with you man 2 3 updated a year for some other games with tons of support make millions $

 

[apple_jacks]

People are going to learn real quick. If the dev's aren't updating they are just taking your money at that point. If you aren't OK with that don't pay.

 

[glassofwater22]

People are going to learn real quick. If the dev's aren't updating they are just taking your money at that point. If you aren't OK with that don't pay.

That is entirely dependant on communication you forget to mention.

There are some devs that only take your money when an update arrives (I know there is or was one, but the name escapes me.)

If a dev says that they'll provide a monthly written update on the status of the next release, then as long as they do that. You can't complain about that.

If a dev says that the new update for the game with come within x amount of time and says something akin to hoping that everything will be done by then and doesn't say something like "definitely" done in x time, but still misses it. Then you only have a tiny bit to complain about. I.e. dev misunderstanding the time needed to reach said hopeful deadline. If they do it multiple times, then you have a bit more to complain about, but mostly them misunderstanding the time required to complete the next update again.

So far, Mr Jet has been pretty consistent with his updates. Baring a 2 week difference period at times, which is frustrating.

However, one thing Mr Jet does that frustrates me is not putting out all updates about delays on his Patreon page, but instead he opts to just message the forum here. Many people check his Patreon page for updates anyway, regardless of whether they provide him with financial support or not. So, if you're going to respond here with updates, then at least do it on the official Patreon page as well. Since doing everyone can or can be bothered to jump into Discord to learn it. Keeping the news for both non-patreon members and patreon members on the official Patreon page is the best way to keep both sides informed.

If Mr Jet reads this, I hope he does take the paragraph before this into serious consideration and implements said thing as it seems pretty simple and easy to remember and do.

 

[aiden2020]

do you miss out on anything in the compressed version of this game (or any compressed game for that matter)?

 

[Deleted member 347141]

Make a good amount of content and don't release the date of update. Simple