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And he just said in his Discord today or yesterday that incest isn't his thing LOL. Really mf?
All those Patreon supporters paying him for the most meager of updates just got cut off. Everyone kept saying the reason that he never made more Jessica and Paul scenes is because Patreon would crack down on him, but the fucking guy goes and posts creepy AI generated art of underaged characters on his page all willy-nilly. Everyone, join his SubscribeStar so he can continue to not make the content that you want before he gets banned for the same reason!
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When literally the first scene ever in BTD is an incest scene, how can he claim that's not his thing? The guy has no excuse. He either jumped on the incest hentai bandwagon (which was gaining steam back then) to get money and then refused to cater to the people that supported him in the first place or he is full of shit, either one is indefendible.
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Oh and he keeps making Alia AI generated art for some reason but sure "incest isn't his thing".
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His exact words:
(upon being asked about making a Witcher parody game with incest in it)
" I'm a Robert E. Howard fan and I definitely want to work on Sword And Sorcery somedays, when my style is more mature. I'm starting that process with the necromencer boss in Horror In Hongdae. For the incest, it's not really my stuff. I don't know how the feeling works so it can be in the subjects but only on the surfface. Game of Throne could guide me in a quest or storyline about that. For the moment though, it's not planned."
That was clearly a mistake in retrospect. He either jumped on the bandwagon or he just wanted to do something wacky and taboo, that he has never done before. It is absolutely possible for an artist to create something, that you personally aren't aroused by. And BtD is full of one-off fetishes. Incest might as well have become one, if there weren't so many people out there, who love that stuff and asked for more. Had BtD been discovered by the watersports loving crowd first, it might have turned into a game, that mostly centers on conserving water.
Is it Alia with Paul or is it just Alia? In the latter case it's not incest. Lots of people like Alia even without the incest.
To make a final statement, that ties everything together: Surely it would have been best, if Balsa had put out an official, clearly worded statement, that he would prefer people to stop requesting incest, relatively early on. But then again, he doesn't frequent this forum. The temperature is quite different on his discord and in his patreon comments. I don't know if he is even aware of the amount of hate, that gets projected his way, because of his reluctance to make more incest.
But I think everyone, who has been coming here semi-regularly, has gotten the message a long, long time ago. Just let grass grow over it.
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He did it for the money which was flowing darn good, and that dried up a lot when he went to a new game, and a third game now. ;/ No Dune No Support.
Dune is where the Heart lies, that is what they say !
Dune is where the Heart lies, that is what they say !
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Let's not kid ourselves, he must have known that Jessica x Paul was the main selling point of his game and what generated him the most money, that's probably why he didn't do it. He's hardly innocent or naive. Now I don't know the full story, but is also said that he started trolling Jessica x Paul fans, so there's also that.
Probably because you would get kicked out or blocked from Discord. Hell, maybe that probably already happened to the people that criticized him over there. As for Patreon, they just stopped subscribing.
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I'm not even entirely sure, if incest fans brought him the most money, or Dune fans (it's a considerable fandom, even back then). But sure, I can grant you, that he had a monetary incentive.
Where does that talk about him trolling originate? I never saw him talk ill of his fans. And I've been following the development of BtD from almost day 1. I think it's just some people having a persecution complex.
If that's true, then the great purge must have happened before I joined his Discord a few years ago. That, or the moderators are super fast. I've seen spam bots being deleted, but never anything else. Really, there aren't that many people posting over there. Most are just lurking, like me. It seems to me, like the critics prefer to fling shit from a distance. That or, again, the mods don't sleep.
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Here friend, from David Balsamique.
Whit love for defending him on a pirate porn site
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I'm the resident thread goblin around here. I will engage in discourse at any cost.
You still haven't made a point on how scat is objectively worse than incest btw. Disgust doesn't count. Hit me with the facts.
About being canceled by Patreon, there were other examples before IIRC, Patreon support was reading threads in F95 for some games and canceled some of them too while their Patreon apges were clean of any rule breaking content. So Pixiv can be the reason for that sudden action after lots of complaints about the dev. If anyone gets in their radar after too many complaints, I believe they check every connected source. I'm just guessing, so the reason can be something else entirely.
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Scat is worse because human feces contains a lot of pathogens that can cause disease like cholera, and typhoid fever. Poop is waste material for a reason. Of course fantasy is fantasy but having an irl scat fetish will probably lead to some serious health issues for you.
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Incest is also associated with disease, which is half the reason, why it is so taboo. It can lead to pregnancy with a decent chance of health problems in the offspring. Of course that doesn't have to happen and birth control can be used. But scat can also be handled safely. It doesn't have to be ingested or rubbed into wounds and you can clean yourself aftewards.
Then there is the second issue with incest: It is frequently abusive, due to the inherent power differential in many of the common constellations (like parent/child, older sibling/younger sibling). Again, no guarentee, that this happens and nobody really knows how often incest actually is abusive. But it certainly is known for that. Scat doesn't have this problem.
Also, I'm not really all that concerned with IRL effects. To me, this discussion is more about perception. This is not about attacking incest or defending scat or lolis. It is about hypocrisy. I have defended incest many times in other places (I can dismantle any of my own anti-incest arguments). And now I see, that scat-haters are making many of the same arguments as incest-haters. It's mostly based on instinct and when logic is used, it tends to be applied one-sided.
Incest is one of the strongest taboos in the world. Popularity in porn doesn't change that. Seeing fans of that fetish hating on other fetishes makes me facepalm.
Incest, scat and lolicon are all problematic IRL (in my opinion, scat is the least problematic) and they are all equally problematic (or rather unproblematic) in fantasy.
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Well, scat is a grotesque abomination, while incest is even in the bible 
Incest was very common in ancient times and wasn't shunned as it is today. But scat has always been disgusting to normal folks. Not to mention incest between cousins is even less problematic and has always been quite common.
Incest was very common in ancient times and wasn't shunned as it is today. But scat has always been disgusting to normal folks. Not to mention incest between cousins is even less problematic and has always been quite common.
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Again with the disgust being used as an autheritative statement. That is not an argument, that is an opinion. You have to tell me how scat is objectively worse than incest OR how scat is regarded lower than incest by the general population. Neither is the case and you know that. And if you don't, then you seriously need to touch some grass.
You calling scat an abomination and not calling incest the same, is grotesque. Neither is intended by nature and both are potentially harmful.
Not this fucking argumentwhile incest is even in the bible
Yes, incest is in the bible. And it is expressly said to be forbidden in it. Just because an act is performed by mythological characters in a holy book, doesn't mean it is permissible for the followers of that religion. Many creation myths have some sort of incest in it. The societies, that believed in them, still abhorred incest. What's permissible for gods, isn't necessarily permissible for mere mortals. The Pharaos could engage in incest, because they had the status of gods. Their subjects couldn't (with one exception, more on that later).There is no evidence, that incest was any more common in ancient times than today. And it certainly wasn't more accepted. Incestus literally means 'impure' in Latin. Every civilization ever, that has mentioned incest in its written record, has condemned it. There are only two exceptions: In Egypt during the Ptolemaic dynasty, incestuous marriages were quite common. Roman census data shows this. And in Zoroastrian Persia, incest was religiously prescribed. But nobody knows, how closely people actually adhered to that. Compared with all of human history, these two instances are a drop in the bucket.
And nobody was talking about cousins here.
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Not sure anyone cares tbh... everyone has fucked up kinks at the end of the day and folks here just want to see more Jessica x Paul porn, or any BTD content since the project died. would be great to see more AI or Balsa stuff rather than Philosophical essays spamming the notifications box hyping me for nothing.
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You can't be serious.....
My guy, Abraham, one of the most important characters in the Bible, literally married his own sister. The fact that even the god that many consider the all mighty god tolerated incest but has never tolerated scat says it all.Not this fucking argument
Incest is incest. If you don't want to include cousins that is because it destroys your whole argument. Because nobody in their right mind would ever think that eating shit is comparable to two distant relatives making love or that both are just as bad.
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Well, you should turn off new comments notifications unless they are direct replies to you.
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European aristocracy (on which Dune's aristocracy is based) was all in some degree of kinship with each other, and they kept marring among them (with quite some healt conseguence).