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Thx, bro. I greatly appreciate it.
But seems you hadn't read a whole thing, bc I mentioned it at the end of the post. 15 hours, 2-3h per day, since I had an intense week. I limited myself a bit, bc attachments number for post limited to #64 and I decided to save some material for future posts.
I decided to use names which DPC used in Steam version to designate each MG branch. And since the phrase sounds like a French, I decided to google what it means. The result was very surprising to me. Before, I really thought it was just about comparing a flower with a leaf, like, "a leaf instead of a flower" words play. Probably, it's really innocent thing and there is nothing to care about, but why the hell he used such a "special" phrase? If google search suggests the first results as a funeral terminology, then it means it used more occasionally. Why not choose something less provocative?
DPC is obsessed with symbolism and duality, in a good term. It gives me a reason to think about it. Like, you know, what's the EP10 title? "The calm before the snow" - DPCs really like this kind of thing because it's both exciting and intriguing for the player. Following the logic of duality, what else could it mean? A flower is a symbol of completeness, or as a kind of classic "romantic" gift and compared to an ordinary leaf from a tree, as a symbol of simplicity, or as a kind of "simple" gift. And what if this is a comparison of a full-fledged and far-reaching relationship (flower), which some expect so much, with a short but bright affair (leaf) ?
I absolutely agree. Her dialogue with Quinn during a Halloween party planning, when she began to regret and showed a kind of disappointment with how her student years passed, from the position of a 4th-year student who has 6 months before a new adult and probably boring life. Sage mentioned fellow students with whom she meets periodically and who tell her about their lives and how it's not fun. Quinn encouraged her to go wild in last months to remember them and not regret of anything later. Well, after that we have the option to immediately arrange a threesome with them...
This is how I see their "relationships" and Sage attitude. While some expect dates, restaurants and walks in the park, I see it in a completely different way. And her morning conversation with MC and DIKs only gives me more conviction in this. I won't say that it fully excludes any romantic and cute moments, she is a girl finally... but it's a secondary thing, not a primary in a case with Sage.
The various endings, based both on the girls we pick and MC past choices and behavior would be very plausible. I don't think that most people will like the same kind of mawkish or dramatic endings, just with the replacement of models and names in them and some minor permutations. I would also like to become a wingman for some of the girls and DIKs brothers at the end and help them to bond with somebody, as it was in AL.
The only thing I'm afraid of is how many months it will take to release the last and most important episode with all the endings and so on
I probably will never understand why it is so difficult for some people to try different playthroughs. Dude, this is a game, limiting yourself to one branch or interest, you block yourself from most of the content. You won't believe how much you're missing out not playing a different branches and paths. Even if you don't like some girl, you can eventually skip the lewd scenes and just stay for plot. Perhaps... you'll change your mind about some of the characters and girls. This happens quite often with Quinn, many people hate her, but then accidentally or on purpose play her path and even if it doesn't change their opinion of her as a person, they find it exciting.
J&M branch is definitely worth playing it. Their relationship and affection for each other, imo, is the most touching and sincere, and despite the complex structure of the relationship itself, the way they work on it also looks very cute. J&M whole thing is a honeypot. The potential Throuple permutations, potential single paths, cheating paths, break up outcomes are really insane. This is what inspires me, and also inspired this post.
It is useful to have different saves. The game is huge and will grow and branch even more. While playing only one branch you will see about 20% of the content. Some plot twists will be visible only on different branches.
Thx. Don't forget that DPC planned his story in advance. The only thing he added at the last moment was Jill. In early teaser in AL you may see the first 2 episodes scenes, but there're no Jill in them. She also absent at the game banner at that time. The MC narrator lines regarding Bella and calling for help takes place in EP3. So this is already a well-considered decision of the author, and in any case such lines will have to be justified somehow. Will it be something creepy or will it be played as an exaggeration - we'll see. It's too important to be abandoned. DPCs crazy attention to details will barely allow such a situation.
Keeping Throuple alive with all that balancing and other challenges which awaits us on this path, friends path with feelings for one of girls, while being on Others road (it's barely could be considered a MG paths, though), feelings part while being in relationship with any other MG (cheating & temptations), pure friends path (no feelings), break up "path" (whatever it could be, most probably a cheating & temptations again - just look at the Bella & Jill arc). They outperform any MGs with all of such possible and potential permutations in their relationships and influence even while MC is on a different MG road. Which only proof their unique and major role and a special place in plot.
Perhaps, the renders number only proves it or is one of the proofs for.
Maya obligatory is a limitation of the plot & freedom given to the player. We may find a lot of similar examples. Some people don't like idea of pledging to DIKs frat
Like wtf, why my MC have to do that?! As for me, such of such inevitable momets helps to create a first impression and take a better look on a particular character. While the rest is just required for the plot - to let the author tell us the story.We met Josy at the beginning of the game, then we met Maya which helps MC, then a little reveal of Derek & Maya siblings part, and met Bella at the same time. DPC have a constant tastes and affections, imo, if he have them at all. If it's changing, then I don't see a reason to constantly & repeatedly create all that small checks & scene variations for J&M, he may do some for them, then move to another MG and do the same he did for J&M for somebody else. But it's not happening. Pattern remains the same for 9 episodes already.
Quinn is an antogonist character & romancing material at the same time, which makes her unique in this way. Like, you don't want a princess, then take this bad girl and turn to the black side. Quinn's doesn't have a lot to do with MC, when he is not on her path. He need to reject all MGs and stay on Others road to be with her. She is the biggest part of "others" road for sure, but she can't compete with MGs. Sex scene in EP9 is a compensation, just count her sex scenes overall number in a whole game and compare to MGs numbers. I can't agree that her part in EP9 was significant or literally big. Being on her path adds a photosession scene, phone chat scene and a scene before the end of the episode and final sex scene. It doesn't stand near any of MGs branches. Others branch will concentrate on various bunch of SGs per each futher episode, since it's impossible to include them all in one. It's a DPC words, not mine.
Thx
That's why I don't like the "canon" word. I don't know how to describe or express it better. Languare barrier doesn't help here as well. The "true" path? The "right" path? How you could consider and describe the Megan or Melissa paths in AL? Or how you may call going for Rena or MCs ex Ana or... Leah? That's what I tried to figure out and made a post for, finding all that details, proofs such as DPC extreme levels of attention to details for some MGs and nothing similar for another MGs. What's the purpose? What he want to tell us or point at? Your "skeleton around which the game is built" is a good take too. I like it. Body is collapsing w/o the skeleton.
Well. In AL we had a flashback with MCs ex Ana at the beginning of the game. Could you call it "canon"? In BADIK we see Zoey in EP3 flashback and a huge flashback with her life far away from MC in Interlude. Could it be canon? She returnes at the moment when MC is already in relationship or he stayed alone - depending you your choice. Could it be "canon" to reject all girls MC met during 8 episodes, including the narrator lines about Josy, etc.
I have the same vibes for solo Josy & Maya paths. Player have to wait so much, he have to be (probably) on Others road and I bet, DPC will deliver this paths with a lot of drama and a make player feel guilty of going for it. Since I created post for MGs, their single paths could be considered as SG material. This is why I haven't said a lot of this sub-branch. But in short, remember MC narrator lines and his dialogue with Derek, when he said that he is not a person who ruins the relationships. And he promized Derek that he won't hurt Maya. I'm lazy to copy exact lines from script now.
That's why I accented on narrator lines, dialogues with MC dad and so on. It's a DPC method of giving player a clues and hints.
Since we had a compare with AL, let's keep it going. Zoey is the light and mostly kind version of Ana from AL. She haven't cheated on him. Yes, she left him and then ghosted for a long 9 (?) months. She was in a good terms with MCs dad as well. They knew each other quite well. She is very important part of the plot and story, but I doubt that her path could be considered as a canon one. An alternate one and for the sake of alternate ending - yes, the reconcillation & reunite thing of best friends which never realised the boyfriend/girlfriend thing between them before it came to late. Second chance as is.
I can't believe that I'm going to reply...Great post.
Here what Josy says to Tommy is important. Tommy should leave her friends alone, that is Maya, Derek and the MC. That's why it's better for the MC to defend himself against Tommy. It is defense and not attack. It's about the MC's honesty. In EP1 the MC said to Josy so that he practices martial arts and to Sage the MC says so that he fights only to defend himself or others. I'm afraid so that the effects of not defending himself against Tommy could lead to the MC being perceived like Jamie by others.
What about jocks? Josy kicks Tommy into the balls only when MC in Throuple and refuses to fight Tommy back (or maybe it's not shown to player, since scene have a sexual context, when they call to MC and these renders are shown during their conversation). As for me, it's mostly about who will handle Tommy later - would it be MC or Josy. It's also may be a various base for their futher relationship development and handling Tommy. In EP9 MC stands up for Jill in front of DIKs, Sage takes care of herself perfectly w/o MC help, while J&M (once again, lol) may get a little difference moments in their branch depending on MC major choice. I don't think it will last long, because there're already a lot of material to build various permutations with.
And you almost immediately disappointed me...
That numbers intended to unlock the vault and get the fucking special renders in a gallery. We even don't have a clue what Trent talks about.
What secret you're try to find here? It's how deep DPC goes with this branch permutations. Giving a player such possibilities and details. But we have nothing more outside the lewd scenes variables at most. Even "unlocking" Maya in EP7 just gives you an alternate version of lewd scene with her in EP8. No variables is stored. No variables = no consequences. Josy's red sweater is a signal of disbalance is starting. She wears it when you do all of her lewd scenes in EP7. But even getting a red sweater scene allows you to get +3RP for both of them in EP9, since Maya allows 1 point difference and will be ok with 4:3 "score", while Josy not.
No variables = no consequences. You may play lewd scene the way you want and see different "endings" just for fun. The same for drinking game with Sage & Bella and partially for J&M & MC one. Some options just leads to different scenes, but don't set any variables. It's usefull to learn some things and girls thoughts regarding different questions and aspects, but that's all. Josy's jealousy don't last long
she handle this situation pretty well. Clever and dare girl.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
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I don't have time to reply on the rest part, I may try a bit later, but I found SOME of your clues interesting or worthy of attention. Thx for reading
