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"You write about Jacob yourself" I only wrote that Jacob knows Sage is a Burke, not how he knew that Sage was a Burke, my point is that if Sage only uses the name Morgan and not Burke because she doesn't want to be associated with her parents and brother then Jacob should not know that Sage is a Burke.

The fact that Jacob knows that Sage is a Burke suggests that it was public knowledge, which means that Sage using Morgan not Burke is a retrospective change by DPC to cover MC not knowing, after he had already pulled the same trick with MC not knowing that Jill is a Royce and is likely to be pulling the same trick with Lynette in the future. DPC realised that having the same trick with Sage as well makes it rather ridiculous and makes MC look like a dumbass, so he gave Sage a different name that she uses in public to explain why MC didn't know Sage was a Burke, but that then leaves the question as to why Jacob knows Sage is a Burke if she only goes by Morgan.
Sage being a Burke is public knowledge the same way Nick Cage being a Coppola is public knowledge. You don't know until you look into it, you hear it from someone else, or this person tells you directly. I used Cage as an example because just like our feisty redhead, he avoided using his famous last name to be his own person and sidestep nepotism (to varying degrees of success).
 

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Sage being a Burke is public knowledge the same way Nick Cage being a Coppola is public knowledge. You don't know until you look into it, you hear it from someone else, or this person tells you directly. I used Cage as an example because just like our feisty redhead, he avoided using his famous last name to be his own person and sidestep nepotism (to varying degrees of success).
Again it doesn't really explain Jacob knowing, he has no reason to have looked into it himself, if he's heard it from someone else then it's likely all around the college and there's no reason for MC not to know and Sage's use of Morgan is pointless and there's no reason for Sage to have told Jacob.
 

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Tbh I don't really get that impression either, it's more like he's desperately trying grasp onto the newly learned fact that Sage only goes by Morgan as a way to validate his ignorance of who her family is. But just for the sake of argument, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt here and say he did know about Morgan beforehand. Still a dumbass though.

I can't remember exactly what she said, but besides not wanting to coast off the Burke name like Tyballs, keeping the Morgan name is a reminder of where she came from. It provides her own identity, and maybe even secretly, it's a way for her real parents to find her.
Since it's pretty easy to reach the relevant convos early in Season 3, I grabbed some screenshots.
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Bro that's not even a terrible theory, it's just nothing. That has less substance than string cheese. Burke calls Priscilla (whoever she is) because of his conversation with Maya, where it's revealed the "free tuition" rumor is much too public for his liking. The MC is never mentioned, he has nothing at all to do with this entire situation other than providing moral support. Even if Stephen obtains the video of MC fucking Jade, it still doesn't pose any problem. In fact, it gives him an incredible bargaining chip for the divorce proceedings. But MC is still not even tangentially related to whatever Priscilla's deal is.
And even if it were true, what does it matter if Sage dropped off this package that realistically Stephen or someone on the inside would take care of? She doesn't bring it up after learning Neil's name, we see no inner thoughts alluding to it. She even has the perfect segue to mention it when MC is talking on the phone with Neil while Sage is in the room watching the weather bitch on tv. There's also the fact that if MC turns out to be a Burgmeister, it would be Rusty's dad who sent the package, not any of the Burkes.

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Thank you for sharing the incriminating scene. To me it will have a patch put on it by dpc to cover the strangeness of the fact that MC, even though he hangs out with hots and Sage, doesn't know the girl's last name.

It remains a strange situation and a victim of all the contradictions in Sage's relationship with her family . She is extremely grateful to the Burkes and wants to show them that she can handle herself, only to avoid them, speak ill of them, and demand that her father give Maya a scholarship just because she tells him to

And rather than use their last name, she prefers to cling to a past she'd rather not talk about... Ok...
 

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This is a joke, I can't tell you or even know if anyone knows what everyone's surname is, it's never really come up. Most of the characters you're never told what they are, there's only a few that are known, so if no one ever calls someone by their surname, then why would you expect people to know it, after all, the MC has only been there one semester at this stage, after all, you don't find out the MC's surname until Sage asks him after he finds out that she is a Burke, but he knew her surname was Morgan, so he wouldn't bother to ask others what her surname was as he was under the impression it was Morgan.

As for Jill's surname, I don't think it ever comes up until it did, not one DIK told him, although I don't think they knew he was dating her until after the Halloween party, others, do we even know their surnames, I think the only ones we now know are the main LIs, I think even with the DIKs we only know the MC's, Rusty's and Derek's surnames, I couldn't tell you what Tommy's, John-boy, Leon, Jacob, Nick or Jamie's surnames are. Same with the HoTs, don't know theirs either except for Sage, Josie and Maya.
 
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Priscilla is Quinn. and they already talked. Burle shut down the " tuition " program.
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I don't know if he's shut it down, because I think it's his business and he has clients who will want that college pussy still.

But he likely needs to stop payments because of the divorce proceedings.

It is kind odd that Quinn goes from talking about taking over the HOTs next year to yeah I might not even be here.
 

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Again it doesn't really explain Jacob knowing, he has no reason to have looked into it himself, if he's heard it from someone else then it's likely all around the college and there's no reason for MC not to know and Sage's use of Morgan is pointless and there's no reason for Sage to have told Jacob.
What if Jacob knows about Tommy, who knows about Quinn. Jacob and Tommy talk about Sage in EP2, don't they?:rolleyes:
 

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It is kind odd that Quinn goes from talking about taking over the HOTs next year to yeah I might not even be here.
Well the drug business hadn't been going that well so she is re-evaluating her plans, she was only in the college thing to get new customers to start, now she has gotten feelings for the MC, in one route, it's probably going to hit her hard when she finds out what happened at the end of CH10.
 

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What if Jacob knows about Tommy, who knows about Quinn. Jacob and Tommy talk about Sage in EP2, don't they?:rolleyes:
But that discussion is prompted by Jacob already knowing that Sage is a Burke, it's conceivable that that is where Tommy finds out but it's Jacob who definitely already knows before that conversation.

Also which DIK was it that brought up that MC had fucked both mother and daughter when Sage does the "walk of shame"? It wasn't Tommy, it wasn't Jacob and it wasn't Rusty. It was either JB, Jamie or Leon, so that's another person who knew Sage was a Burke despite the fact that she's supposedly only known as Morgan.
 

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Do not trust Lily if she tells you to not fall in love with her. :sneaky:

She has already fallen long ago just need to get her to admit it. :devilish:

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She likely the type of girl who will throw you under the bus, if it's beneficial for her. :cautious:
Hopefully MC this time, can hold his part of the arrangement, unlike with Sage:LOL:
 
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Again it doesn't really explain Jacob knowing, he has no reason to have looked into it himself, if he's heard it from someone else then it's likely all around the college and there's no reason for MC not to know and Sage's use of Morgan is pointless and there's no reason for Sage to have told Jacob.
Jacob's been at B&R for a while, he's had plenty of time to learn she's a Burke in a variety of ways. And Sage only using Morgan applies to more situations than just fellow students not knowing Stephen and Jade are her parents, like getting a job on her own merits for example. In any case, the point is that it's not top secret. She'd rather that people don't know, but it's not the end of the world if Jacob knew.
Thank you for sharing the incriminating scene. To me it will have a patch put on it by dpc to cover the strangeness of the fact that MC, even though he hangs out with hots and Sage, doesn't know the girl's last name.

It remains a strange situation and a victim of all the contradictions in Sage's relationship with her family . She is extremely grateful to the Burkes and wants to show them that she can handle herself, only to avoid them, speak ill of them, and demand that her father give Maya a scholarship just because she tells him to

And rather than use their last name, she prefers to cling to a past she'd rather not talk about... Ok...
To be fair, Stephen is a shit dad and person, Jade is crazy and has similar anger issues, and Tybalt is a total cunt. The name Morgan represents a family who gave her up, but also can be whatever she imagines them to be, positive or not.
I don't know if he's shut it down, because I think it's his business and he has clients who will want that college pussy still.

But he likely needs to stop payments because of the divorce proceedings.

It is kind odd that Quinn goes from talking about taking over the HOTs next year to yeah I might not even be here.
Quinn's change of heart is why people think the restaurant is shut down. Combined with Stephen going from willing to help Maya out then doing a complete 180, and Quinn storming out of his office, it seems pretty clear.
Priscilla being Quinn is boring conjecture. "Oh Stephen is talking to someone named Priscilla, must be the only girl involved with the free tuition scheme! You know what else, I think Nick is the traitor!"
 

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Priscilla being Quinn is boring conjecture. "Oh Stephen is talking to someone named Priscilla, must be the only girl involved with the free tuition scheme! You know what else, I think Nick is the traitor!"
Priscilla being Quinn =,
it was the jocks all along who destroyed the mansion, there wasn't a grand scheme behind it. regular girls who get upset about the Walk of shame are the one spreading shit on the disk, and etc.

there is no fucking traitor, just a set up, so the diks will turn on mc and he will banished only to prove himself at the end.
the game is simple, and it has simpel answers;)
 
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But that discussion is prompted by Jacob already knowing that Sage is a Burke, it's conceivable that that is where Tommy finds out but it's Jacob who definitely already knows before that conversation.

Also which DIK was it that brought up that MC had fucked both mother and daughter when Sage does the "walk of shame"? It wasn't Tommy, it wasn't Jacob and it wasn't Rusty. It was either JB, Jamie or Leon, so that's another person who knew Sage was a Burke despite the fact that she's supposedly only known as Morgan.
But Tommy already calls the MC "motherfucker" in EP6.:p
 

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Do not trust Lily if she tells you to not fall in love with her. :sneaky:

She has already fallen long ago just need to get her to admit it. :devilish:

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She even lets MC know she's falling by
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She's hooked, just gotta reel her in.
 

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To be fair, Stephen is a shit dad and person, Jade is crazy and has similar anger issues, and Tybalt is a total cunt. The name Morgan represents a family who gave her up, but also can be whatever she imagines them to be, positive or not.
Yes Jade and tybalt I can also agree, but Stephen only we know what he is involved in, publicly he always acts very friendly. But mostly it is Sage who declares this great gratitude to them. And always she reacts very badly when MC asks her something about her Morgan family, i.e. is it such a sensitive subject that she exhibits her last name at every opportunity? At the very least bizarre
 
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After discussing all these terrible theories and plot threads for the past few hours, it makes me grateful to Patreon. If it weren't for the incest ban, there's a chance we'd be talking about stupid shit like "Is Sage the MC's half-sister? Are Derek and Maya the MC's half-siblings? Will there be a threesome with Sage and Jade?" There's already some of that anyway, not to mention the old "Jill is MC's aunt" theory, but it would be every fucking day. And it would make DPC even more of a hack to do the secret family stuff, which he already invokes with the lame surname reveals.
 

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How do you know if Rusty's father knows the MC or not? I didn't read so he would know the MC and also not so he wouldn't know the MC. Ergo, this question is open.

But explain something to me when you write so cleverly. He has no questions for Jill about the families, no questions for Bianca, no questions for Sage, etc. Why does the MC have questions for Rusty when he found out so Rusty is a castle master! Explain it to me!

I can only imagine one thing. It's something personal.
Right back at you how do you know that Rusty's father knows the mc and he is the father and if you check the age of Rusty and Lynette their is much a high chance that they are aunt and nephew. 2nd during the period that rusty mention he is a Birgmeister don't forget that they are in deep shit because of the picture of Cathy who help Rusty establish a frat. Another thing those question he ask rusty are not that important. Regarding Jill knowing him that she is a Royce he already mention was also surprise but said that he is not interested in school politics. Regarding Sage the mc knows she is a firecracker so he thread on questioning her. About Bianca and the others Jill is the one close to them and not the mc.

Anyway all ehat i'm saying sre just my personal theory I don't have a way to prove if what im saying is correct. Let's just wait and see on the next update which will be at the end of the year the earliest or next year.
 

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Yes Jade and tybalt I can also agree, but Stephen only we know what he is involved in, publicly he always acts very friendly. But mostly it is Sage who declares this great gratitude to them. And always she reacts very badly when MC asks her something about her Morgan family, i.e. is it such a sensitive subject that she exhibits her last name at every opportunity? At the very least bizarre
Here 's the thing the morgan name is confusing because Tycunt(Tybalt) was also a Morgan before he remove it in his name Sage also mention that she is not blood related to Tycunt. Is it possible that Morgan is the orphanage, some parts of the world uses the oraphanage name as there last name
 
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