VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

How come his face is OK while Jamie's face is still fucked up?

no canon!!!!

MC is a chick!!!

 

[SpikeZg]

Tybalt you little bitch, you can buy a Rolex but it's not gonna help you getting into Jill's pants.
insert here that pic when mc winks at him

 

[Zirael Q]

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No way he'll look like this on my playthrough...

 

[SpikeZg]

btw...

Jul 29, 2020 at 8:47 AM
Beach fun series - Mona

we all love Mona right?

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

btw...

Jul 29, 2020 at 8:47 AM
Beach fun series - Mona

we all love Mona right?

Yes!!! *Rubs hands eagerly waiting for images while drooling*

 

[Sculp]

The blackmailer could be literally anyone unless we buy into the theory that DPK is always doing a bit fo foreshadowing so he can later watch us go back to a scene and go "Dang! the clues were there all along".

If that is the case then there is the Sally at the party scene to potentially point the finger at the tri-Betas stealing the laptop otherwise we have the __cpLocation where the picture was taken (ladies room at the gym) and the only ladies we've seen at the gym are Sarah, Melanie and Arieth.

I guess we will see but ıt was suspicious for me that Sarah was searchin around in the mansion of dık's :/

 

[Ragnar]

To a degree, I do concur with your assessment - how much more interesting would things be if say, another dude was working his way into Jill's pants, etc. Maybe Tybalt will screw over the MC in a way that gives him that shot, which would add some spice to the story. The MC basically just doesn't have any challengers at all, really in a romantic sense - all the girls just want his dick, bad, and I'm not complaining about that, just saying it'd be interesting to see a little competition for some of the girls - and like you said, I also do not consider that NTR - NTR would be your dude goes to bed with one of the girls, and gets woken up by the sound of her screwing some other guy right beside you, etc.

We cant have that cause the cursed word of three syllables.

 

[felicemastronzo]

but are you sure that for DPC it is such a big problem to create situations that for some are (wrongly) NTR?

Sage if things go wrong with MC will most likely return definitively with Chad.
Maya and Josy are at least 50% likely to end as a couple without MC
Bella, when her husband returns, at least momentarily, she will move away from MC, and if things go wrong it could be definitive.
only Jill doesn't have an alternative to MC right now, but she'll find it for sure.

I don't see the problem, at best we will never see these other couples in intimacy.

 

[Ragnar]

but are you sure that for DPC it is such a big problem to create situations that for some are (wrongly) NTR?

Sage if things go wrong with MC will most likely return definitively with Chad.
Maya and Josy are at least 50% likely to end as a couple without MC
Bella, when her husband returns, at least momentarily, she will move away from MC, and if things go wrong it could be definitive.
only Jill doesn't have an alternative to MC right now, but she'll find it for sure.

I don't see the problem, at best we will never see these other couples in intimacy.

Jill has Bella, I'm pretty sure they had an affair.
Chad is impotent, gay or both.
Maya and Josy still want MCs dick even if you reject them.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Jill has Bella, I'm pretty sure they had an affair.
Chad is impotent, gay or both.
Maya and Josy still want MCs dick even if you reject them.

I have few certainties in this game ..

however there are already these potential NTR situations, I don't see where the problem is




about Chad I doubt that it is so, I don't think it's gay, the telephone dialogue on the underwear given does not make think that, and I don't think he's impotent (if he can't have sex with Sage what reason would he have for looking for another partner?)

 

[Ragnar]

I have few certainties in this game ..

however there are already these potential NTR situations, I don't see where the problem is




about Chad I doubt that it is so, I don't think it's gay, the telephone dialogue on the underwear given does not make think that, and I don't think he's impotent (if he can't have sex with Sage what reason would he have for looking for another partner?)

Im fine with it and it could be iinteresting, like Maya going full HOT with Quinn, but I doubt it will happen.

 

[always86]

I agree with you, i think that the first 3 you said are pratically confirmed in future updates, but i think that the others are maybe too optimistic? Sage x Quinn it's ok, maybe a foursome with riona or camila,
/

Im almost positive we’ll get a threesome with Sage. As I say I think Quinn in part because Sage thinks you should be an item and also because Quinn’s the only one who seems to have a close relationship with Sage. We hardly see anyone else interact with her.

but a threesome with Josy and Jill i think it's impossible, Jill is too pure and if she does a threesome it will be only with Bella, with another character i think that the character of Jill isn't done for this and i like this game for this reason. Every character has his unique nature and every character is different, it can't be possible not find someone who you don't like.

I think IF Bella x Jill happens there is potential for Jill x Josy. The two have been made ‘friends’ by being placed in class together. I think this is for a reason, one of which will be to make Maya feel isolated. Especially in the path where you aren’t dating them.

For Maya and quinn is a different speech, i really HOPE that this will happen, but i think that if this happen, it will happen between Maya and Quinn only, not a threesome but a lesb scene, maybe if she and josy will break up and in a dark moment maya will do this bullshit with some regrets after this.

I think Maya on the no Warning path will do (almost) anything to get in the HOTs. A Quinn threesome I think is quite likely, especially since Quinn wants to corrupt Maya.

a threesome quith Elena and John boy can be done but i don't think dr pinkcake will create a scene like this because i don't think that all players will like that.

Unless John Boy is a complete duck and wants you to bang her the threesome is the only way to ‘get her’ beyond being an arsehole and fucking over John Boy. It would be avoidable so I don’t really see a problem with it from a player POV.

Quinn x Josy (And maybe Maya): For a simple reason, if Quinn wants to make tommy angry the best choice is to fuck his step sister. And if in that moment Josy is still in a relationship with Maya, to convince Josy she have to convince Maya too. If not she will only fuck Josy. (I would like to see something like this, because for the MC probably this would be another drama like when he found out that Maya and Josy were together, i loved that part and if the MC would feel betrayed by Josy and also Maya to "Cheat" on the relationship between the three of them)

PS: My favourite character is Jill, yours?

I think this is a good suggestion. Certainly seems likely Quinn would piss off Tommy in this way. That said it depends how willing she is to double down. I think she was surprised how pissed Tommy was with her. Still that might motivate her to do it. I’m game if she is lol.

I think on balance my favourite is Bella. (We have to wait and see if Jill is a trap LoL) for me Bella > Josy > Jill > Maya = Sage Josy only beats Jill because she has the best sex scene in the game right now. I also think her persona aligns with the MC pretty well.

The "Majority" are who fund his projects, and I know for a fact DPA listens to his audience.

Does he? He didn’t listen when people complained about AL. I’m not saying he doesn’t care, but I don’t think he’d change his plans For the risk of upsetting fans. And honestly... Who gets upset by a Devil’s Triangle in a fiction? No one seems made that Arieth did one.

 

[mindern]

You think the story would be better if Chad was a "functioning boyfriend" and Sage had no character motivation to cheat on him? Um...huh? You do know what "conflict" is in storytelling right? "Character motivation?" Trivial things like that? I respect your opinion, and you appear to have given this some thought. But I'm not sure I can agree with any portion of your views on this as they seem to suggest to eliminate conflict and character motivation from a drama.

Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru's death in Star Wars was the catalyst that drove Luke to leave Tatooine and "learn the ways of the Force." And Chad being a "bad boyfriend" not only creates an antagonist for the protagonist in the story, but also was a motivation for Sage to need the MC. Eliminate the conflict, you have a pointless character with no dramatic motivation and one less conflict for the MC. These are all rules of creative writing. I don't believe DrPink should change the nature of storytelling and produce a drab uninteresting story with vacuous characters. Doc doesn't follow this forum for instructions so he doesn't care about stepping on toes. If he did, he wouldn't have created Derek, Quinn, Sara, or Riona.

Just offering a different perspective. I think you are focusing on the (in my opinion) inaccurate conclusion that DrPink, the writer of a Pornographic game, is worried about people's sensibilities. Food for thought.

Ignoring all this overwhelming condescension... I am aware of what conflict and motivation is. I chose a poor word in "functioning boyfriend" I didn't mean he needed to be able to have sex, I forgot about his ED and functioning puts a specific spin on that... so that is on me. By functioning I meant he was actually acting as a boyfriend, functioning as a boyfriend. He wont so much as kiss her or even say a nice thing. Even with his ED he isn't engaging with her in a romantic way at all and even in flashbacks he was cold to her. I'm not calling for them to still be sleeping together because the absence of sex is what drove her to the MC but the fact Chad's not actually behaving like her boyfriend is actually doing exactly what you so were so kind as to explain to a plebeian like me with such detail and venom.

He's giving these characters all these motivations based on behaviour they're not experiencing. Sage is desperate to stay in a relationship, constantly turns down the MC and Sarah/Melanie are going out of their way to break them up but she's never actually shown in a relationship. I wouldn't have an issue with Chad being such a bad boyfriend if she wasn't also desperately holding onto him. At some point it becomes implausible everyone is treating them like a couple. You so eloquently pointed out having Chad be a bad boyfriend removed dramatic motivation... having him be this bad a boyfriend is crippling it in exactly the same way. Her motivation to stay with him is as significant to the plot as her motivation to stray.

Similarly with Maya/Josy. They're terrified of losing one another to the point on some routes they outright reject the MC because of this but they've no actual relationship to save. They're not shown to be happy, or even together in any meaningful way beyond claiming they're together.

Being in a relationship is a motivating factor in 4/5 of the love interests. Bella hates herself for cheating on her husband. 4/5 of the characters are motivated by their existing relationship and it's incredulous that all 4 are in relationship where they're desperate to save them but none are so much as kissing their partner... sorry, Maya and Josy kissed once and DPC found the need to edit the scene in EP5 as Bacchus pointed out.

Food for thought.

 

[aslknaslknd]

Anyone have the link to the most recent update?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Ignoring all this overwhelming condescension... I am aware of what conflict and motivation is. I chose a poor word in "functioning boyfriend" I didn't mean he needed to be able to have sex, I forgot about his ED and functioning puts a specific spin on that... so that is on me. By functioning I meant he was actually acting as a boyfriend, functioning as a boyfriend. He wont so much as kiss her or even say a nice thing. Even with his ED he isn't engaging with her in a romantic way at all and even in flashbacks he was cold to her. I'm not calling for them to still be sleeping together because the absence of sex is what drove her to the MC but the fact Chad's not actually behaving like her boyfriend is actually doing exactly what you so were so kind as to explain to a plebeian like me with such detail and venom.

He's giving these characters all these motivations based on behaviour they're not experiencing. Sage is desperate to stay in a relationship, constantly turns down the MC and Sarah/Melanie are going out of their way to break them up but she's never actually shown in a relationship. I wouldn't have an issue with Chad being such a bad boyfriend if she wasn't also desperately holding onto him. At some point it becomes implausible everyone is treating them like a couple. You so eloquently pointed out having Chad be a bad boyfriend removed dramatic motivation... having him be this bad a boyfriend is crippling it in exactly the same way. Her motivation to stay with him is as significant to the plot as her motivation to stray.

Similarly with Maya/Josy. They're terrified of losing one another to the point on some routes they outright reject the MC because of this but they've no actual relationship to save. They're not shown to be happy, or even together in any meaningful way beyond claiming they're together.

Being in a relationship is a motivating factor in 4/5 of the love interests. Bella hates herself for cheating on her husband. 4/5 of the characters are motivated by their existing relationship and it's incredulous that all 4 are in relationship where they're desperate to save them but none are so much as kissing their partner... sorry, Maya and Josy kissed once and DPC found the need to edit the scene in EP5 as Bacchus pointed out.

Food for thought.

The relationship between Chad and Sage is only formal. they are two presidents of two confraternities, they are the "most beautiful couple in the world"
I don't think it's true that Sage has any reason to stay with Chad, actually she has no reason to leave him, which is not the same thing.
Sage does not want to change the status quo, the current situation is as good to her as it is.

and as long as the situation is good for Sage, nothing will change

 

[Manuka]

Does he? He didn’t listen when people complained about AL. I’m not saying he doesn’t care, but I don’t think he’d change his plans For the risk of upsetting fans. And honestly... Who gets upset by a Devil’s Triangle in a fiction? No one seems made that Arieth did one.

"For the risk of upsetting fans" is the same thing as "changing something" because of his fans. Imagine for a second, even though he wouldn't, he killed off Jill or Maya. There's such a huge fanbase for them that he'd really upset people, and most likely would retract it because people wouldn't pay for a game that pissed them off. It depends on how important it is to him that the story continues. From what I know, he wants to do this sorta thing for a living. Maybe he doesn't care and will give up if things go south. In of all this back and forth, I didn't get to really explain it. Idc at this point what people say. It's always the same 4 on this forum that have an attitude problem. They're like gnats, swatting at them doesn't do anything.

 

[mindern]

The relationship between Chad and Sage is only formal. they are two presidents of two confraternities, they are the "most beautiful couple in the world"
I don't think it's true that Sage has any reason to stay with Chad, actually she has no reason to leave him, which is not the same thing.
Sage does not want to change the status quo, the current situation is as good to her as it is.

and as long as the situation is good for Sage, nothing will change

Then why does she get so angry when he refuses to even kiss her? The scene where the MC turns up after Sage/Chad have a private argument and he kisses her forehead. I agree the fact they were both presidents of organisations who partied together was a part of their relationship but why would she get so upset over a "formal" relationship not having any intimacy in private? Nobody could see them in her room but she wanted more from him than a kiss on the forehead. She expects more from him and doesn't get even the most basic of affection.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

And this is how it works in the literary industry, Hollywood the same--how many times have we heard stories of people getting angry about something and the next thing you see is the Artist remove their social media and publicly apologize, then a script has been revised. Does everyone remember what happened to Brian from Family Guy? There are hundreds of books that are submitted by well-known authors, and the editor goes and butchers their manuscript, changing everything around, because what was written was not popular with what people are looking for. At the end of the day, it comes down to Money. If you're not making them money, your opinion means nothing. It is very difficult to do what you want when you go public. There's no arguing that. And like DPC who said he wants to do this as a career, can't just dance to his own tune every time, this is, unfortunately, the reality of being in the public eye.

And how many times have we heard about writers having their stories micro-managed to the point where it ends up completely butchered? Having other people tell you how to do your story because of what they want or what they think people want can lead to the story being completely ruined by all the different voices trying to pull it in the complete opposite direction.

Sometimes changes to a story can make it work better and sometimes changes completely ruin it, especially when you change it to what you think people want. As God (Morgan Freeman) said in Bruce Almighty, "Since when did anybody ever have a clue about what they want?" The best thing a writer can do, especially ones who don't answer to Hollywood producers or publishing companies, is to stick to their guns and write their story because there will always be an audience and a market for it.

Not even sure how having Josy and Maya scenes in the same save is possible in any case since they chronologically happen at the same time. Just like you can't send the evening with Maya AND got Quinn's room for a threesome since they happen at the same time. Are you saying there is or was a way to do both Maya and Josy (jeez...I just used "do" as a verb...) in the same save in another version of the game, Bacchus?

According to the OP in the mod thread, it is now apparently possible to use the mod to see both the Maya and Josy scenes in ep 5.

How come his face is OK while Jamie's face is still fucked up?

Tybalt used Photoshop, or simply this is the "non-punched" image and there will be a "punched" alternate in ep 6 for those who hit him.

but are you sure that for DPC it is such a big problem to create situations that for some are (wrongly) NTR?

Sage if things go wrong with MC will most likely return definitively with Chad.
Maya and Josy are at least 50% likely to end as a couple without MC
Bella, when her husband returns, at least momentarily, she will move away from MC, and if things go wrong it could be definitive.
only Jill doesn't have an alternative to MC right now, but she'll find it for sure.

I don't see the problem, at best we will never see these other couples in intimacy.

Technically, it's only really the dreaded 3-letter word if the viewer/player cares about the character in question. Therefore, if players aren't interested in pursuing Sage, then seeing her with Chad isn't really NTR since there's no feeling there. However, in order to avoid people feeling that, it's likely we won't see any LIs interacting with "love rivals" until the game's various endings, and this will likely also include seeing Maya and Josy together in any way.

Also, Jill's alternate is likely to be Rusty.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Then why does she get so angry when he refuses to even kiss her? The scene where the MC turns up after Sage/Chad have a private argument and he kisses her forehead. I agree the fact they were both presidents of organisations who partied together was a part of their relationship but why would she get so upset over a "formal" relationship not having any intimacy in private? Nobody could see them in her room but she wanted more from him than a kiss on the forehead. She expects more from him and doesn't get even the most basic of affection.

if Chad does not cooperate, it becomes difficult for Sage to convince everyone that everything is fine between them


if nobody ever sees them together, never in intimacy, gossip would still start to circulate (regardless of MC)

 

[Manuka]

And how many times have we heard about writers having their stories micro-managed to the point where it ends up completely butchered? Having other people tell you how to do your story because of what they want or what they think people want can lead to the story being completely ruined by all the different voices trying to pull it in the complete opposite direction.

Sometimes changes to a story can make it work better and sometimes changes completely ruin it, especially when you change it to what you think people want. As God (Morgan Freeman) said in Bruce Almighty, "Since when did anybody ever have a clue about what they want?" The best thing a writer can do, especially ones who don't answer to Hollywood producers or publishing companies, is to stick to their guns and write their story because there will always be an audience and a market for it.

And I totally agree. Yet you continually pursue me like I'm opposing what you're saying. But when you stick to your guns, you end up pissing someone off. You either comply or get out of the way. If enough people get pissed off at him, the game is done. He can't fund it. How much longer can the game continue to be developed before those monthly patreons start dropping off, trying to budget?