DavDR

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I'd say we do learn something about Lily; she likes nice guys. She'll give the MC a free blowjob if he didn't finger her ass and if you don't hev DIK affinity. Also, he gets her a bottle of Tequila because she mentioned it on Rooster and all the responses from the Pink Rose about how he's a nice guy are amusing.



If you can't see it, then they're obviously not your type, but they are the MC's type because his type seems to be just about anybody. We've seen lots of moments in the game where he spends time with them and their bond develops, also they're hot and he's a young, virile guy, so it's not hard to see why he'd go for a lot of the girls in this game when they all look this hot.

There's plenty here to engender positive feelings, but if that didn't happen for you, well then that's you, but it happened for the MC and it happened for players too. The main issue is here, as it is with so much of the game, is that it forced a lot of drama on the MC with lots of characters, even if the player has chosen to largely avoid certain characters. It tends to skirt over establishing logical reasons why the MC continues to be as heavily involved with certain characters, and had it done a better job at that, then we would't be having these discussions.



That's hardly the "worst" thing, let alone something that can be considered all that egregious. It's a typical defense mechanism used by women to rebuff a guy when they're not interested in them and it happens all the time. Maya simply realises fairly quickly that she can trust him and that she doesn't have to be dishonest with him in this regard. It does make the MC think he's got a chance, but she also doesn't object to the idea when he says it's "too late" for him to not be interested in her so she seems pretty open to the idea, even at this early stage.
I think it's just the opposite. It's obvious YOU are besotted with Maya and would defend her even if she killed the entire cast with a hatchett. But DPC has never given the player any justification for the MC liking Maya.
 

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That entire thing is just handled very sloppily and plot driven just for the sake of plot. Josy gets less flack then Maya because for the most part she did nothing wrong except for the part of trying to bed MC on their date in ep1 if MC chooses to or not. Maya on the other hand strings along MC and is never honest with him until its too late, doesn't listen to his advice and then cries for help by putting herself in a position she could have easily avoided on her own but gotta be the "pretty damsel in distress". Which is my personal dislike of her character quite a lot as it reminds me of FSN Sakura which is my most hated character in fiction period. And when Josy shows up again she loses all of her character traits she had previously shown just to be an "accessory" to Maya, that is just some bad fan-fiction tier shit not going to lie. The other LIs don't get hate because either their problems are front and center (Sage) or yet to be revealed (Jill and Bella) and MC for the most part knows what he is getting into.

Is the MC in a relationship? No. Does he "taste" the waters to see whats what? Yes. Doesn't it make any irl sense? Hell no. But its a porn game so it really doesn't have to make that much sense. Until MC lands himself into a stable relationship with a LI we can't fault him for having fun.
 
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No, that's just bad writing. DPC chose to make the game long and complicated. Now that he's six episodes in he can't manage his own story.
The overall story is pretty decent and well handled because DPC doesn't need to take most players' choices into consideration for most plots ( Cathy's cluck, Frats rivalry, Diks mansion and leadership, Chad's blackmailing, Quinn's business, Burke...).

As for LI, he still needs to make them relevant to the story even if players dismissed them. They can't just disappear, especially Bella due to her position as teacher and librarian. At least, he handled her well on a no-romanced path, she has become a supportive character with no forced drama. The Yoga session, cooking lesson and library meeting aren't forced or awkward. It's pretty fluid. Unfortunately, he failed to make the others independent. A dismissed Sage barely appears and has weak reasons to interact with the MC. Jill's plot with Tybalt and her future concert are for now pretty irrelevant without the MC. M&J are probably the worst part since they seem doomed to seek for MC's help, no matter what we do.

In contrast, Quinn actually doesn't even need the MC to have her proper storyline. 80% of her scenes don't include him, she's relevant to the overall story no matter what kind of relationship players choose to have with her. Same thing for Cathy, her personal issues have nothing to do with Mc's interest in her. Even minor characters like Lily or Riona showed more and more personality without the MC's grasp.

DPC just needs to write the LI with more balanced. The damsel in distress cliche is indeed bad writing.
 

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Meushi either you're joking or you didn't understand that i was implying that when i click the "torrent-link" nothing happens, it only opens(or brings me to) the most recent page...and nothing else happens, that's why i asked
 

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I think it's just the opposite. It's obvious YOU are besotted with Maya and would defend her even if she killed the entire cast with a hatchett. But DPC has never given the player any justification for the MC liking Maya.
Attraction is subjective and entirely personal to the individual. Some people can have similar views, traits, etc, as to what they find attractive in a person, but not everyone will view a person the same way. If you don't think that DPC has "given the player any justification for the MC liking Maya" then it's because you don't see it because that's based on your own subjective view on what you find interesting, attractive, and appealing in a person. I have mine and I like Maya, as do others, because that's our subjective view of what we've seen of Maya.

At the end of the day, the main reason why the MC likes anybody in this game is because he's a guy and they're all hot women. We're the only ones who are really trying to find deeper meaning in it.

Is the MC in a relationship? No. Does he "taste" the waters to see whats what? Yes. Doesn't it make any irl sense? Hell no. But its a porn game so it really doesn't have to make that much sense. Until MC lands himself into a stable relationship with a LI we can't fault him for having fun.
Porn game or not, this game could make a lot more sense and it only requires some minor tweaks here and there to do so. It would still mainly abide by porn game logic, but it could have a bit more real logic too.
 
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I see that Ep4 Threesome choice denied gives many problem to most of us, I try to have a DIK Maya & Josy Path, try to lose less point possible with both girl, using neutral choice when available, but the affinity was too important. In the Preps party i comfort Maya and she say that she was confuse and want to give a chance but Josy disagree, if you help Josy she says that she want to do but Maya doesn't. I don't know if there will be a chance in the next episodes if you're not in the chick/neutral path.

I'm sure that Josy has nothing against a DIK path, Maya is the problem in that case...maybe open a Josy solo path in the future i don't know. I have fun with Nora because in that path nothing happens ahah, i refuse the other girls so the MC has "blue balls" :D


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You're right... Derek put Neil on his to-do-sex-list ... so it's fair if MC bangs his father first :LOL:
I don't think we've discussed that list very much here. There are some interesting names crossed out.
Lot of whiny bitches in the thread recently, D&G was a fun diversion, I especially enjoyed the different ways in which the LIs reacted to MC's charm based on relationship status.

And to everyone moaning that those sex scenes weren't real, I've got news for you, none of the scenes are real :oops: . What was really good was it allowed DPC to cram in far more scenes than was feasable in such a short space of time, remember how you all critisised the number of sex scenes in the mansion for being unrealistic? :FacePalm:
It is unrealistic, but I don't think anyone complained :KEK: .
 
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I see that Ep4 Threesome choice denied gives many problem to most of us, I try to have a DIK Maya & Josy Path, try to lose less point possible with both girl, using neutral choice when available, but the affinity was too important. In the Preps party i comfort Maya and she say that she was confuse and want to give a chance but Josy disagree, if you help Josy she says that she want to do but Maya doesn't. I don't know if there will be a chance in the next episodes if you're not in the chick/neutral path.

I'm sure that Josy has nothing against a DIK path, Maya is the problem in that case...maybe open a Josy solo path in the future i don't know. I have fun with Nora because in that path nothing happens ahah, i refuse the other girls so the MC has "blue balls" :D



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Yeah i knew the answer those were retorical questions
 

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I'm sure that Josy has nothing against a DIK path, Maya is the problem in that case...maybe open a Josy solo path in the future i don't know. I have fun with Nora because in that path nothing happens ahah, i refuse the other girls so the MC has "blue balls" :D
You think that's bad, try a Jill only Chick playthrough. Virginity and blue balls guaranteed. I'm still trying to schlep through that garbage for the sake of completionism, but my goodness is it terrible. Stuck on ep. 3. Not sure I'm going to make it through.
 

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You think that's bad, try a Jill only Chick playthrough. Virginity and blue balls guaranteed. I'm still trying to schlep through that garbage for the sake of completionism, but my goodness is it terrible. Stuck on ep. 3. Not sure I'm going to make it through.

in reality only with Maya and Josy the affinity is an insurmountable obstacle (and with Quinn but it is a different matter)

with the other Li being of the wrong affinity only makes you miss a few RPs and some scenes or opportunities for dialogue, but the relationship carries it on calmly until chapter 6

I have a full chick run (I only hit Caleb it seems to me) and with Sage everything is fine (in the sense not worse than in other runs)

with Jill you just have to avoid having the dildo helmet on the night she hosts you at her house and there are no big problems

With Bella same speech, just a few forethought and you also take the score at the appointment in the coffee shop (despite Troy and the bartender).

also in this Maya and Josy are completely different from the other LI (but the worst thing for me is that the path as friends is a miserable sadness ... not even birthday wishes ...)
 
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in reality only with Maya and Josy the affinity is an insurmountable obstacle (and with Quinn but it is a different matter)

with the other Li being of the wrong affinity only makes you miss a few RPs and some scenes or opportunities for dialogue, but the relationship carries it on calmly until chapter 6

I have a full chick run (I only hit Caleb it seems to me) and with Sage everything is fine (in the sense not worse than in other runs)

with Jill you just have to avoid having the dildo helmet on the night she hosts you at her house and there are no big problems

With Bella same speech, just a few forethought and you also take the score at the appointment in the coffee shop (despite Troy and the bartender).

also in this Maya and Josy are completely different from the other LI (but the worst thing for me is that the path as friends is a miserable sadness ... not even birthday wishes ...)
What I mean is I'm pursuing only Jill, no other girls. Why am I doing such an insane thing when I could easily have other girls on a Chick playthrough? I'm operating under the assumption that DPC will block off some Jill content in future episodes for all but the most "pure" of characters. Jill is my least favorite LI, but hey I'm a completionist. I'm obsessed with getting all scenes and dialogue. Wish me luck because...

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ename144

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I think that the worst thing was that Maya said that she had a boyfriend and then says that she doesnt have one when the things between her and the MC start to "heat up". Thats makes the MC think that she is giving him signals that she is more than available to be with him. So Maya omits and lies to the MC after she says to the MC in episode 1 that the MC should promise to always be honest... And she had multiple opportunities to confide in the MC.

With Josy its different, because she says after you kiss that she is in a relationship and never retracts it, so it is the MCs choice to actually pursue a relationship with her despite that. And she is far away from the MC for ep 1-3, so she didnt have an opportunity to tell the MC anything after their date.

Im not saying that Josy didnt do anything wrong, but it is still, in my opinion, not as worse as Maya did
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I don't see a mixed signal here. She effectively says she lied just so the MC wouldn't hit on her, then flat out says she doesn't want the MC attracted to her. In my book, that's an extremely clear signal.

Yes, Maya remains affectionate towards him, but that's not the same thing as wanting to pursue a relationship with him. It's the MC who blindly assumes she must have been too shy before, or silently changed her mind. Even when Maya flat out says they shouldn't be kissing, he keeps acting like she's free and clear girlfriend material right up until the reveal... at which point he puts all of this on the two girls and storms off.

Which, given that the MC is an 18 year old boy, is hardly unbelievable. But it's not as simple as Maya taking advantage of the poor, innocent MC. Both of them knew there were issues with getting together: Maya knew she was dating someone else, the MC knew she wasn't telling him something. But they ignored warning signs because they were young, confused, and worried about what would happen if they addressed the topic head on.
 
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What I mean is I'm pursuing only Jill, no other girls. Why am I doing such an insane thing when I could easily have other girls on a Chick playthrough? I'm operating under the assumption that DPC will block off some Jill content in future episodes for all but the most "pure" of characters. Jill is my least favorite LI, but hey I'm a completionist. I'm obsessed with getting all scenes and dialogue. Wish me luck because...

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I agree with you very much

but this is the case for all LIs

an ultra loyal run of any of them becomes very, very boring, the game does not reward you, for now, in any way (apart from avoiding melancholy reflections and unlikely sermons like Derek's)

indeed in some ways it punishes you if you are faithful, because in any case it lets you know about the problems of the other LIs, so you feel you have abandoned them.
 

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Lot of whiny bitches in the thread recently, D&G was a fun diversion, I especially enjoyed the different ways in which the LIs reacted to MC's charm based on relationship status.

And to everyone moaning that those sex scenes weren't real, I've got news for you, none of the scenes are real :oops: . What was really good was it allowed DPC to cram in far more scenes than was feasable in such a short space of time, remember how you all critisised the number of sex scenes in the mansion for being unrealistic? :FacePalm:
As I said before, the problem with the D&G sex scenes is precisely that they make the 'real' sex scenes feel cheaper in comparison. That's a bad deal.

I don't need to wait months to imagine the MC's model banging Jade's model, I could have done that any time at my leisure. I'm far more interested in seeing how the characters themselves act. Character work is DPC's strength, so cutting that out of the game is very much a net loss.

I agree with you about charming the LIs. I'd much rather the D&G session focused on that sort of thing.
 
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