VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[Kellermann]

Not that I support this theory, but one said and others picked up. Is there any post where he says this line himself?

I've said this before, but I don't buy it. I certainly don't think it's his obsession, but simply he doesn't include it so he won't run afoul of steam and patreon...and because his games will thus be more acceptable to the masses. He sneaks it in via roleplay, which in my opinion is preferable anyway.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Not that I support this theory, but one said and others picked up. Is there any post where he says this line himself?

There's a quote buried somewhere in this thread where DPC said on Discord or Patreon that this is "not a kink that interests me". They also have an explicit rule against it for custom render requests.

 

[JohnDelfino]

I'm surprised she doesn't win more. She's honestly really goddamn beautiful.

True, I think she is the best looking but the boring twins normally have the polls locked up.

 

[felicemastronzo]

May be HE is a pretender. One of my biggest fear, since one of inspiration for DPC was the Bully Game, is that you best friend will turn against on you. Earlier, in one of his interview, DPC did mentioned , one of his mistake in his opinion was that He not developed more the Villain in AL. Derek's attitude can very much be just an Act , so no one will take him serious or suspicious of him. nobody will assume he is more than what he is.
as Jack Rackham once said
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it would be a great twist. and if we wanted, with Ashley, the perfect (but not universal) scenario would already be built

but I don't think it will happen

Derek has RPs, like LIs, so at some point there will be a choice, an action that depending on this score Derek will do or not (like Liam in AL that depending on how we behaved with him goes or not to save Meghan from Melissa's father)

for the gif

 

[rj677]

For the 10k patrons wallpaper series, I figured that I'll release the wallpaper today instead of tomorrow, so now it's Envy's turn to shine. Enjoy!

Really beautiful render for Nicole. Definitely in my Top 2 side-characters

I know we now know her as Nicole, but I wouldnt mind if she went Full Envy on the MC more often...If you know what I mean

 

[Hannezo]

Hi, I would really appreciate If someone could explain the Dik vs Chick choices. Like in how they shape you and how they impact the story Thank you

 

[always86]

Possible reasons why Jill is MC's aunt:

• Jill's sister died. MC's mother died.
• Jill's family is rich. MC's mother came from a rich family.
• Jill's sister has a favorite tree she writes under. MC's mom writes under a tree.

These are what are called coincidences. They don't prove anything.

Possible reason's why Jill is not MC's aunt:

• MC's mom died when mc was born, since Jill is two/three years ahead of MC in college, it's likely she's two/three years older than mc. The photo of Jill on her sister's shoulders shows she's 5 - 7 years old. Meaning she'd be 6 - 8 years old when MC was born (cause you know you have to get pregnant first to have a child). She also had to run off with MC's dad at some time too, adding more years to the age discrepancy.
• The photo of Jill's sister looks nothing like MC's mom from the flashbacks.
• Throughout the diary so far, MC's mom talks about travelling around with her dad, she hasn't once mentioned she even has a sister and she's quite happy to run off not even giving a second's though to her little sister he'd be leaving behind.
• The writing trees shown in the game associated with MC's mom and Jill are not the same.

These are what are called evidence. They provide proof (except the third point).

It's likely the deaths of their family members was just something they bonded over, not something that resulted in them being related.

On the flip side, while people are saying DPC is opposed to incest, the incest porn genre is all about actively corrupting and fucking every female member of your family (I'm sure even the dog isn't safe in some of these games). If, for arguments sake, it turns out that Jill is indeed the mc's aunt, that doesn't make this game an incest game, it just means Tybalt wins!

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While I tend to lean towards Jill not being related, the picture isn’t good evidence one way or another.

The name on the picture is intentionally obscured. Bella’s name is clear. The reason this may matter is it means we don’t know who is in the picture. It could be Jill and her Sister. It could be her sister and Jill’s Mum (for example). If it is Jill and her sister, and her sister isn’t Lynette, then why obscure the name? If for example Jill’s sis is ‘Sarah’ the caption could have said ‘Jill and Sarah’ at that moment it is still meaningless to us as an audience. Where as if it said ‘Jill and Lynette’ it would reveal something. Either way my point is it doesn’t really prove anything.

While it would be unusual for MC not to have seen a picture of his Mum, when we see her it is in the MC’s minds eye. He pictures her as described by his dad, and that is then how he see’s her when reading her journal. It is a fairly common trope with this kind of thing that when the truth is revealed we see a montage of these moments with her morphed into this other person.

Possible Jill isn’t born at the point of the Journal she is talking about running away to her friends (as I recall), not about running away with MC’s dad. This is a different incident. Could be Jill is the reason she stays or comes back.

Again MC’s Mum’s tree is in the minds eye. Could easily prove to be a different tree.

The strongest story argument in a way is Jill’s age. If she is 3-4 years older than MC, she would have only been 3 or 4 when Lynette dies. That is of course presuming Lynette actually dies in Child birth as we are told and not at a later date.

The main argument outside of this is if DPC indeed said he won’t do incest. If by that he meant no fetishistic incest. Or if it would be okay as a hidden fact, designed to pull at heart strings.

My main argument is that these are breadcrumb hints. They may be designed to mislead, they may be red herrings, but they exist.

 

[shazba]

Not that I support this theory, but one said and others picked up. Is there any post where he says this line himself?

I've said this before, but I don't buy it. I certainly don't think it's his obsession, but simply he doesn't include it so he won't run afoul of steam and patreon...and because his games will thus be more acceptable to the masses. He sneaks it in via roleplay, which in my opinion is preferable anyway.

There's a quote buried somewhere in this thread where DPC said on Discord or Patreon that this is "not a kink that interests me". They also have an explicit rule against it for custom renders requests.

While I tend to lean towards Jill not being related, the picture isn’t good evidence one way or another.

The name on the picture is intentionally obscured. Bella’s name is clear. The reason this may matter is it means we don’t know who is in the picture. It could be Jill and her Sister. It could be her sister and Jill’s Mum (for example). If it is Jill and her sister, and her sister isn’t Lynette, then why obscure the name? If for example Jill’s sis is ‘Sarah’ the caption could have said ‘Jill and Sarah’ at that moment it is still meaningless to us as an audience. Where as if it said ‘Jill and Lynette’ it would reveal something. Either way my point is it doesn’t really prove anything.

While it would be unusual for MC not to have seen a picture of his Mum, when we see her it is in the MC’s minds eye. He pictures her as described by his dad, and that is then how he see’s her when reading her journal. It is a fairly common trope with this kind of thing that when the truth is revealed we see a montage of these moments with her morphed into this other person.

Possible Jill isn’t born at the point of the Journal she is talking about running away to her friends (as I recall), not about running away with MC’s dad. This is a different incident. Could be Jill is the reason she stays or comes back.

Again MC’s Mum’s tree is in the minds eye. Could easily prove to be a different tree.

The strongest story argument in a way is Jill’s age. If she is 3-4 years older than MC, she would have only been 3 or 4 when Lynette dies. That is of course presuming Lynette actually dies in Child birth as we are told and not at a later date.

The main argument outside of this is if DPC indeed said he won’t do incest. If by that he meant no fetishistic incest. Or if it would be okay as a hidden fact, designed to pull at heart strings.

My main argument is that these are breadcrumb hints. They may be designed to mislead, they may be red herrings, but they exist.

If (disregarding the proof that it's not the case) Jill were to be the MC's aunt, I see three scenarios:

1. Although I doubt the game would progress down this path, but they find out they are related and profess their love for one another in spite of the social mores blah blah as per every other incest game. That would just fuck this game up and basically make it stupid. Not happening.
2. I also doubt that they would be like, "Our love can never be, oh mc, we must not proceed any further with this", and then Jill is removed from the LI pool. Imagine the backlash. People wouldn't just take to forums and shit to vent, they'd be looking up Swedish phone books for the address of one "Dr PinkCake". Jill was the fucking poster babe for this game, she will receive MC dick.
3. The only other way this could go, and the mental anguish would be right up DPC's alley (if you've watched the 2003 Korean movie "Oldboy" you know where I'm going with this) is that not until MC penetrates all of Jill's orifices and impregnates her ass (not really her ass, I don't think you can do that), that Tybalt will get his ultimate revenge on the MC when he finds out the MC's mom truly was Jill's sister, causing the MC to have a mental breakdown and end up in a psych ward screaming and shit (I don't know, like some other melodramatic game that people occasionally reference). To be honest, if it wasn't for the base need of so many fuckers on these forums chanting for incest, this would have been a good plot twist to fuck with the audience. However, if it happened now, after all the speculation, it would simply be lame.

So there you have it. Any scenario where Jill turns out to be the MC's aunt (even though we've already proven this can't be the case anyway), will just ruin the game and possibly cost DPC his life.

Disclaimer: DPC, if you read this, in no way am I threatening your life, I am merely suggesting that some people, not me, may wish to hunt you down and dig your heart out with a spoon in the event that Jill turns out to be the MC's aunt and the MC never gets to dip into that honey pot, plunge that cave of wonders, navigate those labyrinthine folds of flesh that constitute Jill's cunt. Might I add that if she has a dick, a similar fate (perpetrated by others, not me) may befall the director of such a decision. Just saying...

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The main argument outside of this is if DPC indeed said he won’t do incest. If by that he meant no fetishistic incest. Or if it would be okay as a hidden fact, designed to pull at heart strings.

Jill is a main LI and DPC doesn't do incest. As a main LI, she's guranteed to have sex with the MC so therefore there can be no incest. Also, if she were to be a relative and this were disovered before they went that far, then she wouldn't be a main LI.

My main argument is that these are breadcrumb hints. They may be designed to mislead, they may be red herrings, but they exist.

There are no breadcrumbs, just people hoping there are and seeing signs where there are none.

It's like a Q nutjob looking for signs that their batshit conspiracies are true by reading the cooking instructions on a ready meal.

 

[Gh0st_Harambe]

For the 10k patrons wallpaper series, I figured that I'll release the wallpaper today instead of tomorrow, so now it's Envy's turn to shine. Enjoy!
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[AchedCroissant]

penis

Everything is possible

 

[felicemastronzo]

If (disregarding the proof that it's not the case) Jill were to be the MC's aunt, I see three scenarios:

1. Although I doubt the game would progress down this path, but they find out they are related and profess their love for one another in spite of the social mores blah blah as per every other incest game. That would just fuck this game up and basically make it stupid. Not happening.
2. I also doubt that they would be like, "Our love can never be, oh mc, we must not proceed any further with this", and then Jill is removed from the LI pool. Imagine the backlash. People wouldn't just take to forums and shit to vent, they'd be looking up Swedish phone books for the address of one "Dr PinkCake". Jill was the fucking poster babe for this game, she will receive MC dick.
3. The only other way this could go, and the mental anguish would be right up DPC's alley (if you've watched the 2003 Korean movie "Oldboy" you know where I'm going with this) is that not until MC penetrates all of Jill's orifices and impregnates her ass (not really her ass, I don't think you can do that), that Tybalt will get his ultimate revenge on the MC when he finds out the MC's mom truly was Jill's sister, causing the MC to have a mental breakdown and end up in a psych ward screaming and shit (I don't know, like some other melodramatic game that people occasionally reference). To be honest, if it wasn't for the base need of so many fuckers on these forums chanting for incest, this would have been a good plot twist to fuck with the audience. However, if it happened now, after all the speculation, it would simply be lame.

So there you have it. Any scenario where Jill turns out to be the MC's aunt (even though we've already proven this can't be the case anyway), will just ruin the game and possibly cost DPC his life.

Disclaimer: DPC, if you read this, in no way am I threatening your life, I am merely suggesting that some people, not me, may wish to hunt you down and dig your heart out with a spoon in the event that Jill turns out to be the MC's aunt and the MC never gets to dip into that honey pot, plunge that cave of wonders, navigate those labyrinthine folds of flesh that constitute Jill's cunt. Might I add that if she has a dick, a similar fate (perpetrated by others, not me) may befall the director of such a decision. Just saying...

perfect

This is exactly the point

it wouldn't bring anything good, exciting, perverse

it would just be a stupid twist

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Everything is possible

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Nice try, but that's the link to the status update, not a preview render.

 

[shazba]

Jill is a main LI and DPC doesn't do incest. As a main LI, she's guranteed to have sex with the MC so therefore there can be no incest. Also, if she were to be a relative and this were disovered before they went that far, then she wouldn't be a main LI.



There are no breadcrumbs, just people hoping there are and seeing signs where there are none.

It's like a Q nutjob looking for signs that their batshit conspiracies are true by reading the cooking instructions on a ready meal.

To be honest, heaps of people felt like Jill being the mc's aunt was a forgone conclusion until we started arguing them down. I'm not sure if their understanding was influenced by other people's comments, by so many other games here with an incest slant, or purely by misleading (or intentional) details provided in the game.

Again MC’s Mum’s tree is in the minds eye

If the details in the scenes we saw when the mc was reading the journal were indeed within his mind's eye, that brings us back to the question: What the fuck was he doing imagining his mom's tits!?!

 

[felicemastronzo]

If the details in the scenes we saw when the mc was reading the journal were indeed within his mind's eye, that brings us back to the question: What the fuck was he doing imagining his mom's tits!?!

nice try but I don't take the bait

 

[moskyx]

You can't do incest on Patreon. Not with 10k+ patrons. You don't really need any more reasons

 

[AchedCroissant]

Nice try, but that's the link to the status update, not a preview render.

In fact I was also going to change the link but I left it the same

 

[Warscared]

ok, let me try to clear up my vibes... 1. MC's mother is from a rich family, Jill IS from a rich family (Royce)... 2. MC's mother died, Jill's sister also died... so if my hunch is right (which is a long shot btw), it might be just like game of thrones...

my favorite theory is that they both died in the same incident... not the same person! ofc that means Jill needs to be a few years older then what she currently is portrayed as in game a 3rd year student (if she was Arieth with 8 years under her belt and still on the 1st year it would be perfect)

and yes its game of thrones Jill is an inbreed just as most "royal" families with all the kissing cousins! from the time of the founding of the university where this happens there´s been enough time for 4 to 5 generations mixing around she´s probably cousin on the 3rd degree with rusty and Sage (another of my theories Sage being a burgmeister and thus her strained relationship with her family and their demand for "class" the only problem being she doesn't look as affected as Jill so maybe her father said screw it went for a plebeian and lost half of his wealth in the process? or her mother could smell the "cousin" on all her pretenders and went for a dude like the MC so an able nice on the eye and most importantly that wont give her retarded babies)

As for Derek actually being a genius it does make sense! I mean his sister is on the top brackets of must humans with ending high school with cum laude (not that smart going for a feminism degree but hey that is misguided youth for you) (depending on the size of the high school if you add in all the drop outs and those that stay behind she was the best between 100 and 300 people ) !
Although one must wonder where he gets his information to finish the test? As Einstein said intelligence is how well you combine the information you have, not that it creates it out of nowhere, maybe a genius combined with a photographic memory?

Which raises a major problem! Intelligence is also linked to emotional sensitivity/instability so if Derek is indeed a genius we might be witnessing his downfall he was with Tommy on the basement doing drugs most likely as Tommy was squeezing him for information about the MC without him even realizing Tommy using him! I suspect it wasn't the 1st time that blabbermouth spilled the beans on the MC and ruined the finishing part with Josie on episode 1 !

but that is an explosive combination if someone who is too smart for his own good and sensitive feels guilty for a mistake he made and might cost him someone he really cared about ... we might be witnessing a downward spiral into despair drugs and mental instability, i mean how do you juggle your best friend doing your lesbian sister and her girlfriend ? How can you make emends to the girl you like when you did Wendy? I mean if you cheat on her with Jessica Simpson or a really extremely hot girl its like ... understandable but for Wendy? COME ON MAN WHATS WRONG WITH YOU!

probably i´m overthinking it but i always have to take 2 months before going at AL again so i aint underestimating DPC

I don't think Derek's IQ is so important, indeed if he were particularly intelligent, his behavior would be even more "condemnable"

then he is certainly not obtuse, he is quick of mind as shown by his ideas for the joke at the Jocks or knowing how to integrate among the guests of the Preps.

the way he is described is also realistic, the classic person apparently always high, always cheerful, but deeply depressed. who doesn't know someone like that?

its quite the other way the higher the IQ the quirkier is the person, they see feel and understand things way above regular people so they are always misunderstood on why they act as they do! In my theory its because he understood that he would never be able to be good enough for daddy so he decided to disarm him! Just that alone makes him smarter then Maya!

unlike Maya who remained on the "please love me daddy" path which in fact if you analyse her relationship with the MC she keeps at it, that´s your incest right there she switched daddy for "daddy"!

as for Bella or Jill winning a competition against Josie? whats wrong with you people didn't your mommy held you enough time when you where babies? Seriously (i wrote 29 lines of pure hatred ranting but decided it was too much and erased it)

 

[shazba]

nice try but I don't take the bait

My point being, I don't believe the images were conjured by the MC's mind. I believe we, the audience, were privy to the exact details of the events described within the journal.

You can't do incest on Patreon. Not with 10k+ patrons. You don't really need any more reasons

Imagine if DPC uses the situation as a twist and then Patreon bans him. There might be a handful of people on this forum saying, "Now you know how it feels, motherfucker!".

my favorite theory is that they both died in the same incident

They both died from giving birth to the MC?

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

If the details in the scenes we saw when the mc was reading the journal were indeed within his mind's eye, that brings us back to the question: What the fuck was he doing imagining his mom's tits!?!

They're nice tits and if I'm imagining things anyway. I'd prefer to look at something nice