for me the story told is always right, what is shown to me is the reality of the character, there is nothing else
Derek's an idiot not just because it's the comic moment.
Maya needs someone to assist her in everything not just because she's the damsel in distress in the story
Jill trusts Tybalt
Sage trusts Quinn
Bella is the worst best friend ever
otherwise it all becomes a means to an end and then we're talking about vaginas looking for reasons to stick it in MC's dick
Really felice? Now the story is always right? One of our last arguments you claimed that this story was full of unbelieveble stupid people and that was breaking your suspension of disbelief. Now that i partially agree with your statement you denied it?
You love to have pointless arguments, do you?
I don't. I like to argue with a goal, wich is a mutual rational agreement where two people end with the same opinion regardless of what that opinion is as long as it'is the best. Sometimes it cannot be done but i always try and when i cannot means that i fail.
Well, not all stories can be always right. Sometimes a story contradict itself and then at some point it is wrong. Couse the only thing that is ever right is logic.
Also, you should not confuse "what you see" with "what it is".
You see Derek as an idiot, i dont. Who is right? well we will see, but at least one of us is seeing things wrong, or both.
Finally, when you analize a story there a lot more things that what is shown. Historical context, author's background, meta-narrative, narrative influences, narrative structure, public expectative.
It is Derek stupid? maybe but DPC sayd that he identified with him. I don't think DPC is stupid or that he sees himself as one. Then i dont think Derek is meant to be stupid, just goofy.
Yet if DPC sayd that Derek is stupid then it will be canonical to say that he is, regardless of my opinions over inteligence and stupidity.
"Maya needs someone to assist her in everything not just because she's the damsel in distress in the story"
"Damsel in distress". What an awfull expression. It is a discursive artifact made to blame the victim. You guys are going to somehow make me feminist even after all the fight that i put against thoose people.
I don't think thats your concient intention but it still is what it is.
Maya need help in one problem she has. That's not the same as everything. And that's how fiction works. If your understatement over someone needing help is to disqualified them putting the blame on him, calling "damsel in distress" and stupid then you will have a hard time reading any work of fiction.
Personally, you are cool felice, but beetween literature and you, i choose literature one millon times.
and in fact Mc warns her, tells her that Quinn uses the girls, does not mention the restaurant explicitly but warns her more than clearly. but it's useless, because Maya doesn't have a plan B and then pushed by Josy's arrival she comes back to fully believe in free tuition and therefore in who offers it to her.
No, he didnt. He sayd Quinn uses the girls. Maya ask the obvious question, ¿how? and he never answer. Later Maya include MC in the plan as a collaborator. So, why Maya was stupid couse she forgot to ask and yet the MC get free couse he forgot to tell?. He had every information to knew that Maya's "dream" was to become a prostitute, yet he didnt explain that detail to her friend.
Later he become both her collaborator and her kinda "boyfriend". So, he wasnt smart enough to figure that the "free tuition" meant prostitution? or he wasn't smart enough to figure that her prude girlfriend will not accept prostitution? Why he collaborate with a plan that was not going to work and actually didn't?.
Neither Josy nor MC have a better plan. Completing the scavenger hunt is not a problem, so why should they be the ones to stop it?
Josy wants to become a HOT, why should she give it up? By abandoning the scavenger hunt she could never be part of it.
Should Mc refuse to help her? So he should be blamed for not getting free tuition?
Maya isn't stupid but she isn't disabled either, and they aren't her guardians.
if i quit my job tomorrow and decide to become an AVN developer without having the skills would it be my fault or the fault of whoever doesn't stop me?
Man i literally answer that question the last post. They are friends, felice. You dont want your friends to fail and get out of college. That's why. You dont want to loose your girlfriend. That doesn't mean to be someone guardian for the love of god. That's the minimum friends do for each other, give advice, provide critial information and offer guide in difficult moments. But it is even worst, they were knowingly collaborating with that plan. They were a part of it, a team.
So, for you Josy didn't give a fuck Maya's position (wich is clearly not true "I give a fucking diarrea about you" Josy dixit). But she wanted to join the HOT's. She told Maya that the plan for the "free tuition" is excelent and will solve all thier problems, but the only thing she wanted was to join the HOT's. Lovely girl.
About the last question... is clear that for you guys to conclude "It is Maya fault" is an imporant thing. So let's talk about fault.
It is Patrick fault. Primarialy couse he started all of this and with malice.
Then it is DPC fault for building a story that doesnt have sense and does not takes into account details.
Then came the plot holes, and there if you insist in cannonized them:
Then it was also Maya fault for not asking, (happy?)
Then it is Quinn fault for having and ilegal ring and to fool Maya and not even clarified even when it was in her best interest.
You also get to Burkes fault for allowing and using this ring.
Then it is MC fault for being a shitty or stupid friend.
Then it is Josy fault for being a stupid friend.
Finally it is also Sage fault for living in Candy land when her sorority was being taken by an ilegal ring.
When that happens to a mean person like Quinn, well she'll mess with her for sure.
