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Tremonia

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Personally, I don't bother looking at the code.
I don't do that either, but I was sure that this was only about the video from the recital and showing it with the code was the easiest way, because how should I make a screenshot of a screen which doesn't appear? It just couldn't be, since I got this line even in playthroughs where my MC didn't banged Sarah in the closet or any other girl to begin with. One of my saves is a celebate SuperCHICK run where MC is the chickiest CHICK of all CHICK's. MC only did CHICK major choices, didn't pushed Tybalt, was nice to the Jocks, the Betas, and ignored every girl, but of course he was nice to all of them, so he helped Jill with the recital, but his dick was never seen with exception where he had to got the panties from the HOT's house. The recital video was the only option after all.
But who knows how DPC will continue to use "not ep8_recital_failed".
At least he couldn't use this variable with the camera in Derek's room, and I thought that was the conversation about you had with HiP1. Would be weird if Jill's failed recital could lead to some bullying or blackmailing or some other kind of shit against the DIK's or MC. It wasn't MC's fault that Jill couldn't handle her jitters. And also what changes the fact Jill failed the recital that the SuperCHICK MC didn't banged anyone except from Zoey and was nice to everyone?
 
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Actually, the part that I was most disappointed in wasn't the Josy reveal but the library scene where Maya and Josy instantly forgive one another. It just wasn't believable, at all. I was also shocked that they hadn't talked it out in the time between the reveal and the library.
I think they had time to process their feelings a lot. they just lost a potential great love in MC. they are about to lose the remaining one. it's a desperate choice to cling to the current relationship, and honestly it's pretty common. they both blame Maya's father for their current predicament, so part of the betrayal's fault fall on him in their mind, and the rest is "you're just as bad as me". faced with lonely and despair, they will choose the one that still loves them and who they still love, sharing the blame.
and to me, that's the moment an MC that isn't interested in them should choose to walk away without saying anything at all.
and you're right, it's weird that they didn't come clean and admit to the cheating to each other before, but it might be become they were both afraid of losing everything, even though each knew that MC knows and that Derek might also know.

How can there be an official break-up if the other person no longer answers you?
several solution, the cleanest would be to take the train and go see them face to face. why she didn't even think of that when she sees MC do that exact thing ?
alternatively, you can just call and leave a voicemail saying it's over. or even write a text, but that's pretty shitty :D
at least, that way YOU make it official for yourself even if the other actively tries to avoid it.

I just hate that we're on a cliffhanger about Rio. In my wishful fantasies, my Quinn/Other Girls playthrough has Quinn calling me to come help...even though I realize Tommy is probably who she'd call first, if she called anyone. I could easily imagine her storming over to talk to Buddy and handle this herself. I'm sure it won't be that simple though.
Quinn does come to you to escort her in EP10 if you're on her path. so you might just be the new emergency call now. she doesn't even ask Tommy.

But who knows how DPC will continue to use "not ep8_recital_failed".:whistle:
everyone knows: he will use it in every scene that requires a reference to the successful recital and everything linked to it like the video. even indirect references like MC's guitar skills being publicly known, or MC and Jill publicly knows as friends.

if she'll come crawling back for some secretive fun-times again.
if she is divorced and it's public knowledge, she might not need to hide it that much now.

I can't wait to see what sort of drama this route will produce. Should be some interesting fireworks, or at least I'd hope so.
the first obvious one that you forgot : Sage finding out. and you're her boyfriend right now on that playthrough :D
 

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One of my saves is a celebate SuperCHICK run where MC is the chickiest CHICK of all CHICK's. MC only did CHICK major choices, didn't pushed Tybalt, was nice to the Jocks, the Betas, and ignored every girl, but of course he was nice to all of them, so he helped Jill with the recital, but his dick was never seen with exception where he had to got the panties from the HOT's house.
I respect you so much for doing that playthrough!
 

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if she is divorced and it's public knowledge, she might not need to hide it that much now.
She might because of what you said following this
the first obvious one that you forgot : Sage finding out. and you're her boyfriend right now on that playthrough :D
Yup, that was my intention for this playthrough. :sneaky:

Let's see if I can net me a threesome with both of them later on.
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One tattoo isn't going to kill her body her beautiful any besides it really depends what it is and the size. one of my better renders(which isn't saying much) I gave Josy a tattoo on the side it came out pretty good. So I think a small tattoo would look beautiful on her
Long time ago, when Josy didn't have so many red flags for me, I decided to add some tattoos for her. I didn’t stop at the small one and go full alt.
Tattooed Josy

This, as well as the camera angles, completely changed her and removed the image of 18-year-old petite girl as we know her, and as for me this version is better than the original.
 

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I don't do that either, but I was sure that this was only about the video from the recital and showing it with the code was the easiest way, because how should I make a screenshot of a screen which doesn't appear? It just couldn't be, since I got this line even in playthroughs where my MC didn't banged Sarah in the closet or any other girl to begin with. One of my saves is a celebate SuperCHICK run where MC is the chickiest CHICK of all CHICK's. MC only did CHICK major choices, didn't pushed Tybalt, was nice to the Jocks, the Betas, and ignored every girl, but of course he was nice to all of them, so he helped Jill with the recital, but his dick was never seen with exception where he had to got the panties from the HOT's house. The recital video was the only option after all.
Yes, in EP9 "not ep8_recital_failed" is the trigger for what the Vixen Girls are supposed to say via code instructions and that is perfectly correct and not in doubt. But it only applies to this one scene.

Like you, my MC didn't fuck a girl in Derek's closet. Still, I can't get rid of the idea that these girls mean a different video. There's a simple reason for that.
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At least he couldn't use this variable with the camera in Derek's room, and I thought that was the conversation about you had with HiP1. Would be weird if Jill's failed recital could lead to some bullying or blackmailing or some other kind of shit against the DIK's or MC. It wasn't MC's fault that Jill couldn't handle her jitters. And also what changes the fact Jill failed the recital that the SuperCHICK MC didn't banged anyone except from Zoey and was nice to everyone?
No, it was more to make me think that there were more cameras in the DIK Mansion and also one in the MC's room.

No, I think so that a failed performance will not lead to harassment, blackmail and the like. But rather it shows us what the MC failed to do with Jill. What? He couldn't reach her emotionally, which then actually calls into question their feelings for each other. That's how I see it. I personally never saw Jill as a potential LI for my MC, but I want Jill to be a good friend for my MC. That's why my MC always successfully helps Jill with the recital, because that's what good friends do for each other.
 

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I respect you so much for doing that playthrough!
It's hard work. I really loathe Tybalt! But those run is good to see things you can't see on other playthroughs. In my opinion you need two extreme playthroughs: the celebate SuperCHICK run like I mentioned and the MassiveDIK asshole run where you choose every major DIK choice, tries to get all the girls (and got rejected), tells Derek about the fuck with Jade, get the blowjob from Cathy, don't help Jill, give a shit about the mansion, and so on.

Sure, you'll always need all the other runs but in these two extreme playthroughs you can face many hidden things if you don't just skip through it. It's hard work though.
 
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Long time ago, when Josy didn't have so many red flags for me, I decided to add some tattoos for her. I didn’t stop at the small one and go full alt.
Tattooed Josy

This, as well as the camera angles, completely changed her and removed the image of 18-year-old petite girl as we know her, and as for me this version is better than the original.
Dik Josy mood
 

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It's hard work. I really loathe Tybalt! But those run is good to see things you can't see on other playthroughs. In my opinion you need two extreme playthroughs: the celebate SuperCHICK run like I mentioned and the MassiveDIK asshole run where you choose every major DIK choice, tries to get all the girls (and got rejected), tells Derek about the fuck with Jade, get the blowjob from Cathy, don't help Jill, give a shit about the mansion, and so on.

Sure, you'll always need all the other runs but in these two extreme playthroughs you can face many hidden things if you don't just skip through it. It's hard work though.
Resisting messing with Tybalt is the hardest choice in that run, I'm sure :D
some of the CHICK choices are really hard to swallow and move on from.

the only "extreme" playthrough I did was a Massive DIK MC that chooses one single girl and stays as faithful as possible rejecting every other girls, and still making all the dik choices, except for sex. in this case, it was Sage since she is the only main compatible with DIK affinity, but it could any on the "others" path.
 

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Nobody can stop DPC from using "not ep8_recital_failed" one or more times.
He already does it. The clucks, the conversation between Bianca and Jill, Jill's parents mentioned it, and some minor things in the story.
Many players, whether they've seen the code or not, assume that Vixen Girls means the recital video on Rooster. But then all of a sudden this, BAM BAM BAM, in EP11. He uses "not ep8_recital_failed" as a condition for it so a Vixen Girl or whoever said to the MC that he is the ignorant porn star of B&R.
How so? He wasn't nude at the recital and as far as I remembered he didn't fucked anyone on stage, even some girls got excited like he was half inside. Well, okay, he did Sarah by proxy. She came a little.
No, it was more to make me think that there were more cameras in the DIK Mansion and also one in the MC's room.
I've read this. I read most of your theory posts. Sometimes you're on to something, I think. In this case you're running into the false direction, because you took the bait. The camera in the closet was a wired one and like you mentioned in your conversation with HiP1, it can't be installed on the go. Even Derek says it in the game. When he talks to MC in MC's room the morning after the party, right before the clean up. I think you're right. The camera was there before Rusty and Tommy got the house. The closet was for supplies and the camera was a security system. But that's it. I don't think there's a camera in other rooms. Never was.

You're right as you mentioned the pics from the camera (Arieth and Derek) aren't from the laptop. And the Tri-Alphas was obviously blackmailed from photos making from this security cam (Arieth in the closet ) and from the laptop (Arieth with Rusty). We never saw the photos Chad received. There were two envelopes in the ending of Ep2: one for Chad and one for Dawe. In Ep3 Chad only gaves the one with Dawe over to him. We can be sure the photos in Chad's envelope shows some pics from Troy and him. No one from the DIK's have them. We would know it. The DIK's had already used it in their fight with the Tri-Gays.

But there's no DIK traitor. Look: the Cathy cluck was with a photo not taken from the DIK's, but clucked over the DIK's laptop (or was just the account used from another device?). BTW: no jock ever admit it was them. Dawe is just grinning to Tommy because of the shit the DIK's have to go through. The photo with Rusty and Arieth was already given to the Jocks before the cluck incident. We know Rusty was "cleaning" the laptop after the end of Hell Week and after the cluck incident. So someone had clearly access to the data from this laptop. Even when it's maybe in stand by? I think the DIK's using a cloud, and I think it's the B&R cloud for students. Every university has this service for their students, and Rusty's a Burgmeister, so I think it's not that hard for him to get a little bit extra space on the clouds just for his frat. Hell, Rusty even used the term "sync" as Derek wants to gave them their proof at the Hell Week evaluation. It's not "copy" as you use when you mean to send it to a specific device. He used "sync" as someone do when it's meant for cloud space.

So, it's synced. Just like the camera as you (in my opinion correctly assumed) in your conversation. It's not synced to the DIK's. Rusty is clearly shocked about it in Ep10 and we can say he would have known if there was a camera synced to their account. I think, like you did, the camera is synced with the B&R network, because the building was part of the B&R complex until Tommy aquired it with help from his daddy.

After all: who did it? Who stirs shit up between the Tri-Alphas and the DIK's? Who wants to humiliate the DIK's with photos? We saw Becky aka Cafeteria Girl putting up photos in the ending of Ep10. But is Becky part of the group called "Vixen"? Where do we saw Becky the most time in the game? Correct, in the library. Every fucking time when MC is there, she's there, too. But we know the library is not just a library. It's Tri-Beta-territorium. I don't know why no one ever thinks about the third frat in the game, who clearly has some technical versed nerds in it. The photo from Cathy was made from a peeper, like Ron. The DIK's are stupid and naive, so I don't think they secured their data in the cloud very well. It's a college game made from a fan of college films ffs. There's every time someone who "hacked" the network of the university. The preps don't give a fuck about the other frats. They do their own thing. The HOT's just want to have fun. The Pseudo-Alphas are to dumb to pull such shit, and they're victims themselves.

So, there're only three options: a DIK traitor, Vinny, or the Tri-Betas. I don't believe there's a traitor. Vinny don't care. He just want to sell his shit. Sure, he was at the safe, but he's an asshole. He justed wanted to steal the money in there. And like you I think he was only in MC's room for memories. But unlike you I think he throw the books on the floor. He was angry about himself, because he knew he messed his life, and he saw how it could be for him. Well, long story short: the only believable option who stired up all the shit are the Tri-Betas.
 
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