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When the hell is the update coming with Episode 9? Still wondering why in the actual fuck after the 44 different chics the mc has, still & all on deck to add to the list of hot chics fucked with so far, what the fuck would we ever want to suddenly have this cunt Zoey even be brought into the mix and damn sure waste valuable time to see what she has or hasn't been doin in where we straight up don't fuckin care?!?!?! As soon as I can I will make her stupid ass get kidnapped or she decides to run away and we never see that waste of time again..... That whole idea came outta left field and it is almost as equally as bad as the dumbest thing that pisses me off more than any other bs and that is just gonna be put into a question.....WHY IN THE FUCK AM I HAVING TO PAY THE STUPID WHORES AGAIN AFTER I HAVE FUCKED EVERY SINGLE ONE FOR FREE AND MORE THAN ONCE?!?! At the start I get it but these hoes are all in love with the cock and all should be paying me to fuck them .... It is way past time for the MC to just fuck whoever and it is far past frustrating when You get asked this and out of nowhere since I can't recall being asked for awhile. It is ridiculous especially when at this point the MC has fucked many of the HOT's multiple times and has fucked almost every HOT, EXCEPT CRAZY ARIETH and Heather but that is gonna change very soon with Her and damn sure not have to pay I hope so anyway! She has to cuck Tommy, & it is already an easy set up. All I know is I haven't been asked to pay the strippers so why in fucks name would I want to waste money with a HOT WHORE? NO THANKS, I will just call my boo Nicole and also Lily or Sandy. Also if I am playing the Massive DIK Path why has my Dude more and more start acting like a little bitch like when he does with Sage..... I dont wanna be your rebound guy, WTF and If I AM A DIK AND HAVE BEEN AT COLLEGE FOR THIS SHORT TIME I WOULD NEVER BE NARROWING DOWN ALL THE PUSSY I HAVE BEEN GETTING AND THE POTENTIAL TO LIVE IT UP, WHY IN THE FUCK DO I WANT TO PICK 1 AND 1 BITCH TO DO WHAT THE FUCK I CAN DO WITH ALL THE ONES I HAVE SO FAR!!!! STOP FORCING MY MC TO BE A PUSSY BITCH WHO IS A CHICK I AM A DIK AND I WANT TO FUCK ALL NOT ONE
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Each time someone whines the next episode is taking too long DPC pushes release date another week.
Thanks Obama
Honestly, I'm just glad that we're seeing a light at the of this tunnel. Though ... I'd prefer he'd try to rush it for a December release rather than a January release. That just looks so bad. Then it'd be one update for the entirety of 2022 which would be just the Interlude.DPC clearly thinks the end is in sight; he's ticking down a list of what's left to complete, he's hoping to pose the final animations, and as you say he's organizing the Patreon credits. So I think we really are in the final stages of development, it's just a question of how long that will take, which seems likely to come down to the animation queue.
Currently we seem to be heading for an early-ish December release. We might just be able to hit the end of November if rendering to continues to accelerate and DPC edits tightly, but I don't think that's realistically going to happen. I also don't think late December is likely since I doubt DPC wants to handle a release in the middle of the holidays. So my guess is he'll either push to get it out in the first half of December or release it just after the new year. But those are just guesses.
Did you really miss my wall of text explaining the letdown?
To summarize, it mostly comes down to two things: I thought the crossroads was a mess and I don't like where the game seems to be going in Season 3.
On the crossroads, DPC wanted a big decision moment, but he did a lousy job pacing the various paths to get to that point. DPC ducked out of showing the MC formalize things with Maya and Josy because he wanted that moronic 'twist' with the Burkes. So the throuple has effectively been stalled for the whole of Season 2. Sage's path was twisted into a pretzel because DPC had advanced the fuck buddies route too quickly (hence the infamous 'rebound guy' concern coming out of nowhere to cool it off) and hadn't developed the friendship route enough (hence the MC going from zero to 3-out-of-5 in a single party). [Oh, and Sage had to timeshare her only sex scene in Episode 8 with Quinn, which is unconscionable!] Bella's path would be fine... except that the MC flat out refuses to ask WTF happened to her husband, as though that's a minor concern. Jill's path is the only one that works from a pacing point of view - and that still required slogging through Tybalt's blackmail bullshit so Jill winds up looking like an imbecile.
All of those problems with the crossroad were then magnified by the way the episode ended. First, we get that miserable one-size-fits-all 'twist' where the MC craps his pants because Sage is a Burke. An MC who fucked his new girlfriend's mom and slugged her brother has the same reaction as an MC who realized his friend's mom is his teacher. Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
I really cannot overemphasize how colossal a mistake that was. You don't force the player to make a (supposedly) huge, long-lasting decision hinging on our past actions and then railroad us into a panic attack that ignores the glaring differences our past actions make to the situation at hand. That one move completely undercut all the good will DPC had built up reflecting our choices in small dialogues or altered scenes, all for a dumb twist plenty of us saw coming a season away. Clearly our decisions don't matter.
Second, we get the return of Zoey, and in particular we get the Interlude. To me this signals that Season 3 isn't going to be about the MC and his chosen girl trying to make a go of the new relationship, it's going to be about the MC second guessing his decision at the crossroads. Sure, at first glance those seem to be two sides of the same coin, but I see it as a matter of emphasis. Zoey doesn't need her own side game if she's just going to be a factor in the MC's new situation, she needs the Interlude if she's going to be the factor in it.
Combine that with the fact Episode 9 is titled 'Vixens,' and it sure seems like DPC expects us as players to be torn up second guessing ourselves. Well, I'm just not. I made my choice ages ago and I've been waiting for the game to catch up; the thought that I'll have to slog through yet another season of limbo to get there is... off-putting. It should be up to us whether the MC second guesses his call at the crossroads - and even if DPC pulls rank and makes the MC sulk again, we need a chance to experience the changes his decision caused before we worry about branches not taken.
Basically, Episode 8 gave me the impression DPC is too invested in the small set pieces at the cost of the overall narrative flow of the game. The set pieces can still be a lot of fun, but they don't build into something larger. They just happen in a vacuum and we shouldn't worry about the convolutions necessary to get to the next piece. DPC won't let us make real choices because he's afraid we'll miss the good bits, and thus he undermines the illusion of choice that makes the game so enjoyable.
My ultimate complaint about Acting Lessons is that it felt like it was less than the sum of its parts; I'd hate to see something similar happen to BaDIK. You are, of course, free to disagree, but that's how I see it right now. I'll still be thrilled to be proven wrong.
See above. And to be clear I still liked Episode 8, it just killed a lot of my enthusiasm for Season 3. I've gone from "I can't wait to see more!" to "...please don't fuck this up." Which has not made the wait for Episode 9 particularly enjoyable.
You should know by now, I agree with you on ep 8 being a letdown. In fact, I appreciate that there's someone else who wasn't all that satisfied with it but isn't suddenly hating BADIK because of it. There's a lot of overlap with what you said and what I didn't really like about it. It makes me wary for future releases and especially for ep 9. The core issue for me would be what you said about "small set pieces vs overall flow of the narrative". Ep 8 really felt lacking, especially after being the longest we waited for an episode at that point. It's a classic "not seeing the forest for the trees" or more like "being worried about the pebbles on the side of the road, rather than where we're going". Which is circles, btw. We're going in circles.
The different flavor text and mechanics of the game make it fun and feel alive. It'll still be a good game at the end of it but it might end up not living up to its potential. Which for me, makes longer development times less worthwhile. At the very least, the "Others" path is going to be a fucking blast.
However, Ep 9 might put my doubts to rest and Ep 8 could have just been setting up for things down the road.
I mean ... you're not entirely wrong. I'd say Zoey's reception (at least on this thread) was mixed. Though just take it easy man. Jeez. You're at a 120% and I need you at a 50%.
Btw, just to make it clear. I don't dislike Zoey but I really don't give a fuck about her. So whether or not the Interlude was important, it didn't mean much to me in terms of either wasting development time or introducing an important character. Still, you're technically right. Objectively speaking, if the Interlude was made shorter and was just a flashback at the beginning of ep 9 then we'd probably have ep 9 by now or at least a few weeks away. Not referring to how important or unimportant it was to fit everything from the Interlude into a small flashback or something because again, I didn't really care about it too much.
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Meh, it's mostly if not entirely people being salty about the Interlude. It'll pass and she'll probably become more of a favorite for more people or at least more likeable.
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Although I don't share these sentiments, I think the general consensus is that Madam feels shoed in in order to justify keeping the VIP pass. Thus taking up development time. That and a lot of people find her unattractive.
As for Zoey, some have argued that despite the Interludes attempts to make us care for Zoey; She still hasn't earned her place in the cast nor does she feel like she can catch up to the characterization that the Main LI's have developed over the last two seasons. Thus making the development time used to making the Interlude feel sorta unjustified and/or forced.
- Jun 15, 2022
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They don't like Zoey because Interlude delayed Episode 9.
Madame
is just useless and ugly.
- Sep 3, 2017
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I dislike Zoey because her part in the story is done. She's taking away attention and time from vastly superior girls. I mean shit, I think even Maya might be better than her, and that's saying something. The fact that she went and got tit tattoos just reinforces my already significant "what the fuck is she here for" feeling.They don't like Zoey because Interlude delayed Episode 9.
Madame
People do not care about Zoey because she was introuced WAY TOO late into the game. Personally when I see bblue hair now I think of life is strange and the worst character in video game history Chloe XDThey don't like Zoey because Interlude delayed Episode 9.
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- Aug 19, 2019
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Zoey was introduced rather early on in the game, some people just weren't paying attention. MC tells Bella all about her and their history together. You're right that a lot of people don't care about her, but she was part of the story well before the Interlude.
- Dec 3, 2021
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From what I've read, it appears a lot of the hate for Zoey rather involves the fact the dev took the time to create the Interlude in the first place. This in turn took away from the time he could have spent on the main story.
- Jun 15, 2022
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We will have the opportunity to find out in 5-8 weeks. I think the DPC will be able to integrate Zoey into the main story and some of the players will like it. In the script, she plays the role of a sharp plot twist in the middle of the game.
Bad association.
For me, the blue color is associated with a police telephone booth.
- May 17, 2020
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actually no one hates Zoey, talk of hate only serves to polarize positions.
also the interlude is not Zoey's responsibility, but DPC's in the case
but a large portion of the players really care little about her at this point in the game, then there is plenty of time to change their minds
Yes as a memory and first love nothing really else The Interlude makes her now one of the most important characters like it is played. It feels like a cliche Jdrama now when everything you think is going well suddendly the lost big love of the past shows up for one Episode. It is a filler for me personally.
Of course to release a filler product like the interlude, and probably delaying several months the real update, doesn't contribute to make Zoey a favorite character, but it's not only that.
The presentation that DPC has done of her is not the best for starting liking a character. She's a brat that leaves her mother in a bad moment for her (her mother has just died), and breaks MC's heart for no good reason. Wanting to live by the beach like if it were holydays all year is a naïve and frivolous reason to leave everything behind. And the things that happens to her during her time in San Diego are boring. The characters that she finds there are cliché and uninteresting, and the things that happens to her once she leaves the MC are boring. Even herself bores of that living at the end and returns home.
Also, her personality seems to be the blue hair and the tattoos. She want's "to be herself", "to be unique", "to be special" and what she does? To follow an stupid trend... She was a frivolous brat before the tattoos, and now is a frivolous brat with tattoos. And she left for around a year, and apparently she's waiting to find it all as she left it, including the MC... She's delusional too. Those are not attractive traits for a character and DPC should know that. If the player is older of 20, will find Zoey's personality superficial and childish. Probably realistic, most people of Zoey's age are superficial and childish (and way, way older nowadays), but it doesn't make her an attractive Li, if you are asking to a character something more that the possibility of seeing some renders of her sitting in the face of Josy, for a quick fap.
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since DPC had a plan for Zoey giving her more backstory was necessary, even in my opinion the plan is not perfectly successful but it was necessary. if he had done it in the ninth chapter little would have changed and we would still have waited practically the same amount of time (2-3 weeks less maybe)
about her acting like a brat, it's true, but all the characters in BADIK do that
MC wants to drop out of college because Troy is obnoxious
Josy is punished by her parents by taking away her cell phone
Jill consoles people by making funny faces
and I could give examples for everyone
they are all brats as such are treated, evidently DPC sees teenagers this way
- Apr 19, 2021
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true, quinn and whoopi take pretty much the same spot on the hot scale
I disagree, she wouldn't get a whole semi-episode just like that if she's done. her part in the story is just starting and I'm pretty sure she'll stir some shit up.