mindern

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IRL people calls or texts others to ask if are free to hang out. IRL, MC would say to Jill by phone "I'm sorry I can't hang out with you right now because I have to take care of a friend with flu, but I can later/tomorrow/next week", and Jill would say "Oh, you are such a great guy for taking care of your friend. Of course, see you later/tomorrow/next week". As simple as that. DPC wanted to make the player choose between Jill and Sage and only came out with that quick&dirty solution. He could have come out with something better, for sure.
It also annoys me when people frame it as “Jill dumps the MC because he helped a friend” or something similar. They see it as her being spiteful.

It isn’t that Jill dislikes the MC for his decision it’s that without the date she doesn’t fall for him.

Selecting Sage misses out on Jill crying over the mother story, on taking the MC to the tree that’s so special to her. They don’t have the discussion about Tybalts lies, the MC never tells her he’s falling for her.

Far too many times people think she’s a bitch because she doesn’t just fall in love with the MC over nothing.
 

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It's mostly jokes and memes, I think. Most of the people don't actually hates Jill. I myself find her path somehow boring compared with others because she's too perfect and her path seems to go on rails (destiny). It's not an emotional rollercoaster like Sage's, Bella's or Quinn's. Also, somehow DPC fucked up her face with the mouth, eyebrows and the makeup. She's sweet and gorgeous when she's serious, but when she smiles she becomes an evil racoon. Hence the memes. But I don't dislike her as a character. She has really cute moments and for sure she cares about MC, maybe more than any other girl. And I can be wrong, but I think most of the people think the same.
Tbh: As a Jill fan, I understand everything you said; I also felt like Jill will be interesting this season because her mom clearly going to feel some type of way about the MC, Bianca relationship drama & I see problems with Jill wanting the MC to make some changes about himself or feel some of type of his DIK behavior. I don't see him making changes to better himself, but not changes that make different.

Like her being upset that you acted that way towards that catfish, and I etc. I still feel she's in love with the Idea of him as Chick but not the rest of him.

Season 1, 2 & 3 made it clear she's into that side of him, even if you reject her as DIK, MC points that they don't work together.
 

Mr. Muscles

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It could have worked better, for sure, but again, IRL, MC would have called Jill to say "I'm sorry, but a friend of mine is sick and has asked me to take care of her and I couldn't say no. Could we postpone our date until afternoon?" I don't think Jill would be upset because of that. Again, DPC should have came out with something better.
This is probably one of my biggest issues with the game. Such a contrived choice.
 

The Glorious LIME

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This is probably one of my biggest issues with the game. Such a contrived choice.
DPC loves his forced drama. And that's why I say that DPC is the one that makes Jill get the reaction she gets here. If taking care of a friend is a DIK choice, than fuck Jill and her CHICK route. That's why I say that Jill is alright-ish, but DPC is the one shitting on her the most :HideThePain:
 

TomUK

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Tbh: As a Jill fan, I understand everything you said; I also felt like Jill will be interesting this season because her mom clearly going to feel some type of way about the MC, Bianca relationship drama & I see problems with Jill wanting the MC to make some changes about himself or feel some of type of his DIK behavior. I don't see him making changes to better himself, but not changes that make different.

Like her being upset that you acted that way towards that catfish, and I etc. I still feel she's in love with the Idea of him as Chick but not the rest of him.

Season 1, 2 & 3 made it clear she's into that side of him, even if you reject her as DIK, MC points that they don't work together.
Well, I think it will turn out Game of Thrones and Jill will be the MCs aunt, the MCs mom went against her parents wishes when she ran off to be with the MCs dad and then died in childbirth, Jill's sister obviously did something wrong and was pushed out of the family and then she died, which we don't know how. The house in the background being the same as the MCs mom's childhood home and now is Jill's parents home. If Bella ever meets Neil, she might put 2 and 2 together and realise the MC is Jill's nephew.
But then again timelines might not work depending on how old Jill actually is.

Not a spoiler, just my opinion.
 
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Ir0n Ma1den

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Man the squad on Patreon asking questions are hilarious and degenerate af, Although I would absolutely wanna hear that intro be voiced by Vin Diesel!

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Man the one who asked about Vin Disesel should get a medal, that was funny.

About voices, from what I've understood DPC played with this idea and did record some voice lines, was it in the game and cut or is it something that DPC did on his own and not share??
 

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DPC loves his forced drama. And that's why I say that DPC is the one that makes Jill get the reaction she gets here. If taking care of a friend is a DIK choice, than fuck Jill and her CHICK route. That's why I say that Jill is alright-ish, but DPC is the one shitting on her the most :HideThePain:
A character is only as intelligent or moron as the guy that writes his/her story.
 

The Glorious LIME

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A character is only as intelligent or moron as the guy that writes his/her story.
Yupp, no matter how much I enjoy BaDIK, I can never say it's my favorite AVN.
Other people write more believable characters. BaDIK is hilarious and great fun overall, but 90% of the characters are caricatures
 

StingerWolf

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You must be single, get used to it. If you're not, I feel sorry for her. You know, it's possible to be honest with yourself and be a decent human being. If you do get with one of your valued "cumdumpsters", don't get angry when she fools around on you. I've known a lot of really decent women over the years, the majority are not sluts, which is probably what bothers you, you can't go around abusing and mistreating them.
It is a bit more complicated than that. I mean not as black and white. Take Lily or Quinn. Both are cumdumpsters, yet are very far from honest(with themselves). Just not as selfish and haughty as Jill. (there is no human being who is not sefish, but there are levels) A good example for balanced would be Josy, whose only conflict is her relationship with the bottom of the barrel girl. She might not be 100% sure regarding MC and her, but is not deluding herself like most women in BADIK.
(you can guess as much as you like regarding my personal life, 99% you will not guess right sand it is not very wise)
 
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Roundell

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Yupp, no matter how much I enjoy BaDIK, I can never say it's my favorite AVN.
Other people write more believable characters. BaDIK is hilarious and great fun overall, but 90% of the characters are caricatures
I wouldn't say BaDIK is a well written game. A well written game is The Witcher III or Mass Effect. And even those have flaws, of course.

I have to close my eyes to a lot of things to enjoy BaDIK. For example, the first episode, Sage is a bitch and most of her scenes makes zero sense. But it's my favorite AVN because I can't think in a better one.
 

Jericho85

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Just not as selfish and haughty as Jill. (there is no human being who is not sefish, but there are levels)
Maybe you should play the VN again and take another look lol. Jill is nowhere near selfish. That's clear from the first moment she appears on screen and it's true through episode 9. She is very quick to worry over other people.
 

The Glorious LIME

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I wouldn't say BaDIK is a well written game. A well written game is The Witcher III or Mass Effect. And even those have flaws, of course.

I have to close my eyes to a lot of things to enjoy BaDIK. For example, the first episode, Sage is a bitch and most of her scenes makes zero sense. But it's my favorite AVN because I can't think in a better one.
All AVNs require quite some suspension of disbelief to enjoy, once you have that, it's a great time.

As for other titles, I personally can.
If you're interested, I can DM you.
 
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