VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[SomboSteel]

If anything, I want to say to the Quinn fans. I don't hate your favorite waifu. Damn it, I like her character - complex and controversial.
But to whitewash her behavior, to turn a blind eye to the fact that she has committed many bad deeds is somehow strange. It is also strange to protect her by humiliating other girls in an attempt to make Quinn look better. This looks childish.

What would a good line of defense for Quinn look like:
"Quinn grew up in a highly hostile and toxic environment among drug thugs. She didn't have a normal childhood. Her father gave her terrible life lessons:
"Trust no one but your dad. Keep everyone else at arm's length".
What normal parent would give such advice? Quinn grew up socially aloof, with obvious signs of a sociopath. Growing up in a street gang, she does not recognize the normal foundations of society.
It is also possible that Quinn was physically and mentally abused. As a result, she considers any manifestations of love, friendship and normal social relations as a weakness. She mocks people to look cooler so that no one can see her broken and wounded soul.
Maybe it can be cured if you put her in a normal environment where she gets good treatment. So I see Quinn's redemption path as possible."

Written in an extremely simplistic way, because it takes more than a page of text to describe Quinn's psychology. But the direction is like this.
I wrote reviews like this shortly after I got here and what's interesting is people liked to discuss them, put forward counter-arguments and no one caught cringe.

this is all i really have to say about this topic: all of the stuff you posted doesnt really matter to me much.

Quinn is one of the most interesting characters in the game and her path feels like it respects the time required to put into it. This game is filled with stalling plotlines and boring junk like Maya's never ending tuition and cringey junk like Tybalt's blackmail with JIll.

While Quinn being a drug dealer and running a brothel is ludicrous, its more interesting on its face than those other lame plotlines AND it leads to actual gameplay moments as you can build relationships with the other HOTS through the restaurant. I have no interest in personally defending Quinn as a person, but as a character in this game and story she seems like she is integrated the best into a forward moving narrative that connects with worthwhile gameplay choices

 

[KАRАMBA]

You raised an interesting point. I had already noticed that Quinn's fans seem to feel embarrassed for liking her and I don't understand why. They're always making excuses and creating a real 4D chess game to make Quinn look likeable, but there's no need for that in my opinion.

What's wrong with admitting that Quinn is a fucked up, bitchy character who only thinks about herself? Some guys feel the need to defend their favorite girls like their lives depend on it and that doesn't just apply to Quinn, but to any girl in the game.

I don't think any less of you guys if you guys like a stoner with a reputation for dick-sucking, or if you like a stripper single mother or better yet if you have a thing for goblin princesses.

“Waifu War is never good, it kills the soul and then poisons it too.” - saynotoNTR

Well, in fact, there is no need to invent something in order for Quinn to look likeable. She's already pretty damn likeable. The thing is different, they say here that she has committed a many bad deeds. But I just can't agree with that. Well, maybe she did a little, just a little, not the best things. OK, maybe. But "many bad deeds" is real an exaggeration.

 

[osculim]

this is all i really have to say about this topic: all of the stuff you posted doesnt really matter to me much.

Quinn is one of the most interesting characters in the game and her path feels like it respects the time required to put into it. This game is filled with stalling plotlines and boring junk like Maya's never ending tuition and cringey junk like Tybalt's blackmail with JIll.

While Quinn being a drug dealer and running a brothel is ludicrous, its more interesting on its face than those other lame plotlines AND it leads to actual gameplay moments as you can build relationships with the other HOTS through the restaurant. I have no interest in personally defending Quinn as a person, but as a character in this game and story she seems like she is integrated the best into a forward moving narrative that connects with worthwhile gameplay choices

Well you have to remember the boring tuition thing you talking about stems from the Quinn's brothel plotline they are one and the same. The one will not exist without the other. Nothing forward moving about either of them. They are both dragging on.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

You raised an interesting point. I had already noticed that Quinn's fans seem to feel embarrassed for liking her and I don't understand why. They're always making excuses and creating a real 4D chess game to make Quinn look likeable, but there's no need for that in my opinion.

What's wrong with admitting that Quinn is a fucked up, bitchy character who only thinks about herself? Some guys feel the need to defend their favorite girls like their lives depend on it and that doesn't just apply to Quinn, but to any girl in the game.

I don't think any less of you guys if you guys like a stoner with a reputation for dick-sucking, or if you like a stripper single mother or better yet if you have a thing for goblin princesses.

“Waifu War is never good, it kills the soul and then poisons it too.” - saynotoNTR

Some users in the matter of protecting their virtual girlfriend reach Lovecraftian madness. I never understood it. They are ready to turn the thread into a dump in order to protect their waifu, and in the dirtiest way. What do I do if I see my favorite characters run over? I'll make a funny meme about the authors and that's it.

this is all i really have to say about this topic: all of the stuff you posted doesnt really matter to me much.

Quinn is one of the most interesting characters in the game and her path feels like it respects the time required to put into it. This game is filled with stalling plotlines and boring junk like Maya's never ending tuition and cringey junk like Tybalt's blackmail with JIll.

While Quinn being a drug dealer and running a brothel is ludicrous, its more interesting on its face than those other lame plotlines AND it leads to actual gameplay moments as you can build relationships with the other HOTS through the restaurant. I have no interest in personally defending Quinn as a person, but as a character in this game and story she seems like she is integrated the best into a forward moving narrative that connects with worthwhile gameplay choices

I agree with what you wrote. Good line. Quinn is one of the most interesting characters and she is quite high in my rating, her storyline draws to the screen. My appeal was addressed rather to the inadequate part of her simps, who are ready to start a war with the whole thread for the sake of their chosen one, because they cannot come up with normal arguments about why she is good. As SaynotoNTR noted, they seem to be embarrassed by their choice.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Memes aside, what are the odds on Zoey and Quinn throwing hands by the end of the game?

 

[ChipLecsap]

Giving her money in EP 5 is the key to opening a 'route' with her

 

[dfefsgres32]

I cant get my save to work with the new content

 

[SomboSteel]

Well you have to remember the boring tuition thing you talking about stems from the Quinn's brothel plotline they are one and the same. The one will not exist without the other. Nothing forward moving about either of them. They are both dragging on.

eh...im not putting much stock into how interconnected those things are until DPC actually does something with it. and Quinn's restaurant leads to player decisions, where Maya's tuition leads absolutely nowhere so far.

IMO right now they are tangentially related at best, and it was mainly used as a way to force Maya's hand into riding MC leading up to the CUMpetition. Neither MC, Maya, Quinn, or any of the HOTS seem to care about the restaurant being related to free tuition anymore. Mona disappeared from the game and nothing has come of it since. been years IRL with no consequences, so there "relatedness" doesnt mean much to me currently

also i dont believe for a second that Maya's never ending tuition wouldnt still be in the game even if Quinn was reworked or omitted. that lame plotline has for some reason been made the lynch pin of the main narrative and there is no way its not always there by default

 

[famob]

Memes aside, what are the odds on Zoey and Quinn throwing hands by the end of the game?

and if they do who you got your money on

 

[SomboSteel]

I agree with what you wrote. Good line. Quinn is one of the most interesting characters and she is quite high in my rating, her storyline draws to the screen. My appeal was addressed rather to the inadequate part of her simps, who are ready to start a war with the whole thread for the sake of their chosen one, because they cannot come up with normal arguments about why she is good. As SaynotoNTR noted, they seem to be embarrassed by their choice.

yeah well i wouldnt know much about that lol. im guessing they are just immature or trolling or something

 

[NebulousShooter]

Some users in the matter of protecting their virtual girlfriend reach Lovecraftian madness. I never understood it. They are ready to turn the thread into a dump in order to protect their waifu, and in the dirtiest way. What do I do if I see my favorite characters run over? I'll make a funny meme about the authors and that's it.

I agree with what you wrote. Good line. Quinn is one of the most interesting characters and she is quite high in my rating, her storyline draws to the screen. My appeal was addressed rather to the inadequate part of her simps, who are ready to start a war with the whole thread for the sake of their chosen one, because they cannot come up with normal arguments about why she is good. As SaynotoNTR noted, they seem to be embarrassed by their choice.

Why are we pretending that we like Quinn only for her character work and not because she has one of the hottest lewd scenes in the game? #2 scene in ep9 after Maya&Josy don't @ me

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Why are we pretending that we like Quinn only for her character work and not because she has one of the hottest lewd scenes in the game? #2 scene in ep9 after Maya&Josy don't @ me

In Ep 9, her scene is really the best so far for this season, but I have other favorites for past seasons.

 

[Jumbi]

Possible but I didn't find a route to her on my CHICK run and that was specfically what the post asked.

When I last did a CHICK route there was no route into Rio's path, even giving her money outside the Preps and talking to her after the Cathy Cluck she didn't ask for my help with the stalker, I guess I might have missed something but I'm pretty sure she's only active on Neutral/DIK affinity.

I don't know honestly. It might be possible that having chick affinity blocks her path. In any case, it would be easier just to go with neutral affinity at least. For a gal like Rio, it seems like a more sensible choice.

 

[Darkdevil66]

You raised an interesting point. I had already noticed that Quinn's fans seem to feel embarrassed for liking her and I don't understand why.

My appeal was addressed rather to the inadequate part of her simps, who are ready to start a war with the whole thread for the sake of their chosen one, because they cannot come up with normal arguments about why she is good. As SaynotoNTR noted, they seem to be embarrassed by their choice.

Or maybe you're both projecting and putting words in their mouths ? Just like 5 pages before, where TheGloriousLime tried to put her fanbase in 4 different categories. I let it slide with humor but it's rather presumptuous and condescending to categorize and oversimplified their mindset. It's the same all story every week. Quinn fans say this, Quinn fans think that...

Half of the time, it's not even about the character but how her fans should behave or think or defend her or justify their appreciation. But the truth is, you're not in their heads and they don't have to debate, intervene or show their appreciation the way you want. It's just a porn game, a fuckfest filled with plot holes. But the constant moral projection and self-righteousness snicking in 90 % of every discussion feel like bigotry sometimes. And it's just not about Quinn and their fans, the whole talk about Riona sexual behavior last day was absolutely appalling.

 

[saynotoNTR]

Well, in fact, there is no need to invent something in order for Quinn to look likeable. She's already pretty damn likeable. The thing is different, they say here that she has committed a many bad deeds. But I just can't agree with that. Well, maybe she did a little, just a little, not the best things. OK, maybe. But "many bad deeds" is real an exaggeration.

You're not one of those fans I mentioned, you're the down-to-earth type of person and you can recognize that Quinn has many flaws besides having done nasty things.

But some guys are just plain embarrassing themselves trying to defend their favorite girls... seriously, it's embarrassing.

You don't see me trying to justify why my favorite girl is a walking red flag, do you? Like I said, it's embarrassing and that's coming from someone who cries every night before going to sleep.

 

[saynotoNTR]

Or maybe you're both projecting and putting words in their mouths ?

What I'm trying to say is this: I don't understand the need to defend your favorite girls, that's all.

It even seems that their enjoyment of playing this game called Being a DIK depends on it - convincing others that their favorite girl is the most precious person who ever lived. Bizarre.

Who cares what others think of Riona or Quinn? If I was going to get stressed every time someone talks shit about the romance between MC and Isabella I would have already deleted my account.

 

[anonnyscouse]

The fact there is no perfect girl in BaD is one of the main reasons I like it. All the girls have flaws and all the girls have good features. When there's a perfect girl in a VN, especially a VN with multiple LIs it breaks the immersion as it's clear the VN will steer the player to Miss Perfect at the expense of anyone else and it becomes more like a kinetic novel with only the appearance of choice.

 

[lipe2410]

Is it possible to be in a path with Quinn, Riona or both with chick affinity?

Haha, no

 

[lipe2410]

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Second best investment in the game. Only below pay 4$ to Nicole in ep.3 and fuck her ass

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Or maybe you're both projecting and putting words in their mouths ? Just like 5 pages before, where TheGloriousLime tried to put her fanbase in 4 different categories. I let it slide with humor but it's rather presumptuous and condescending to categorize and oversimplified their mindset. It's the same all story every week. Quinn fans say this, Quinn fans think that...

Half of the time, it's not even about the character but how her fans should behave or think or defend her or justify their appreciation. But the truth is, you're not in their heads and they don't have to debate, intervene or show their appreciation the way you want. It's just a porn game, a fuckfest filled with plot holes. But the constant moral projection and self-righteousness snicking in 90 % of every discussion feel like bigotry sometimes. And it's just not about Quinn and their fans, the whole talk about Riona sexual behavior last day was absolutely appalling.

I saw this post of LIME and I put myself in one of the categories he listed. No problem with that, as you yourself noticed this is a humorous post.
I have absolutely no dislike for you liking this or that character and I like most of the characters in the game. I'm absolutely ok with Quinn and her fans - you, SomboSteel, Sasanid, KARAMBA and other Quinn fans that I've known for a long time, you're all great guys. Love who you like and that's absolutely fine. It was about a small group of fans to whom I treat with a share of humor, because through their efforts the thread turned into an endless Quinnposting. Of course, if this group is trash-talking all the other characters, then people will react.
Why is this happening? People seem to be bored after Episode 9 and have nothing to discuss.