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I’ll add, it’s only stupid not following your dreams, even if they lead you away from the important people in your life. It’s clear Zoe’s dream was stronger than her attraction to the MC, but it’s wrong to hold her to a standard of being loyal to him no matter what, cause that would make for a fake relationship where she tries to make him happy all the time and leads only to resentment further down the road.
It’s a shame Zoe didn’t fulfill her dream and now has little to show up for, but that doesn’t invalidate that she tried or the experience she gained.
She’s still the same person the MC loved and it doesn’t matter whether he loves her anymore or not. All that matters is that he still cares about her. Whether it leads to friendship or romance is gonna be up to us.
very true. you can add that she was actually happy before going for her dream, and her priority changed only because of her grief, so she might not even have gone for her dream if not for her love of her grandmother. but it was not about staying for MC, it was more about waiting for him to graduate so he could follow her, or going immediately without him and leaving him behind to die alone. once she managed to see the reality of her dream, and accepted her grandma's death, then she understood that she was not really happy in San Diego compared to home. she also understood the reason she was not happy. but she didn't understand the source of her happiness yet. MC Magic Penis (tm) ! :D
 

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Quinn, Maya and Jill received roasting in this thread for its entire existence, collecting maximum hate, Josy received this after Ep. 10, as a result the gates to Hell were opened and some of her fans burned.. And repeat all this in a circle, pooping on those same waifus for the hundredth time is boring. It's an endless circlejerk.
We need something new. For example, few people pay attention to such a useless girl in the game as Sally.
Is this a little ball of hatred and malice towards MC for no reason, or because she doesn't get good enough dicking and therefore acts like a bitch towards our guy? DPC well described one tsundere who behaves this way because showing feelings is a weakness for her, the street taught her to be a heartless bitch, otherwise you won’t survive (thanks Rox, father of the year:FacePalm:) and we see how with MC this facade of callousness gradually falls away, how their relationship dynamics are developing (you can hate Quinn for the crap she does, but so far MC is the only one who has been able to melt a little).
And as an alternative to one tsundere, DPC offers a nerdy shrimp who is mean to us because... she is most likely dissatisfied with Magnar. And she looks like if you have a boner for her, then you're most likely on the FBI's wanted list.
Sally is not needed. Absolutely useless character, increasing development time.
That's it, 15 minutes and new content for discussion.
Sally is actually a good character, for me. she provides ok comedy with her banter with/against MC, and she also provides a very needed angle: not all girls are (at least immediately) into MC. we need many more that are indifferent to MC.
 

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and there is not a single profile picture that looks like a wolf... see how that works ? I can make stuff up too just to destroy your arguments, and mine at least make sense.
No, no. MC is called a "lucky dog" (Just like Rusty is called a "lucky dog" by Tommy early on in the game) which totally must mean that he is the guy with the wolf profile picture. Absolutely not far-fetched nor ridiculous at all.
 

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No, you can't write off this theory. The DIKs were only founded two years ago and therefore did not have a fraternity house on campus before. But now they have one and it's through Papa Burgmeister. The college is called Burgmeister & Royce.

The DIK Mansion used to be either the nerd fraternity house or the college cafeteria. That's why the nerds are always in the library, because their space has been taken away.

Have you ever noticed so Isabella can't kick the nerds out of her library even though they're playing DnG. Weird is just so Isabella can kick out the MC who isn't a nerd. Are Isabella's hands tied with the nerds?
It's so unlikely that we can write it off for the reasons that I listed. I don't dismiss your theory with joy or anything, I just think you're reading too much into it. The library is the nerds' natural habitat and Isabella has grown to accept their presence. Besides Jill was playing that game of DnD and Bella didn't want to spoil her friend's fun.
 
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Assuming these were placed during a party or some sort of social event is highly unlikely. So no offense but that throws your argument right out the window . (pun intended seeing as the windows of the mansion were busted for over a month) :ROFLMAO:
could be a HOT that stays behind after fucking in the closet with the excuse of "cleaning myself up" ? :D
 
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Also, love your blow by blow recounting of the episodes keep them coming
Thanks; I’ll try. Gotta take a week off though. My girl ReallyNotTina has Covid. She’s fine; slight cough. But contagious, and my stupid ass didn’t bother to get a booster shot for more than a year, so we can’t play with each other till she’s better. Two days left; counting down the hours!
 
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Where can I find the songs in the game? It sounds really good
you can extract it from the game files.
or there's a guy that compiled it all in a post on the subreddit dedicated to the game, and called it "unofficial soundtrack" or something like that
 
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Sally is actually a good character, for me. she provides ok comedy with her banter with/against MC, and she also provides a very needed angle: not all girls are (at least immediately) into MC. we need many more that are indifferent to MC.
I agree, Sally is great, I love her character, and especially the DIK dialogues with her :ROFLMAO: I mean given the option I wouldn't turn down having sex with her but even without that she is still a good character.
 

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If we take the words away from their meaning, of course.

The point is not that she failed, but that she put no effort into it, no effort at all. She wanted to surf, surfing is not easy, then she doesn't want to surf anymore. Which doesn't justify that 'that's what she wanted to do with her life' . What she wanted was a holiday, paid for by her grandmother.
the fact that she didn't wait for her best friend to come with her might just means it was more about going away from the place that reminded her of her grandmother, not wanting to confront her grief ?
 

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Sally is actually a good character, for me. she provides ok comedy with her banter with/against MC, and she also provides a very needed angle: not all girls are (at least immediately) into MC. we need many more that are indifferent to MC.
Indifferent, we need them. But not hostile to MC because of bs reasons.
 

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Pimp for sure but is Quinn really a prostitute, besides the MC, do we know of anyone else she's slept with since the MC turned up to the college, hmmm
probably Burke and some of her girls. i'd throw in Tommy too. and 50-50 on Rusty.
 

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Quinn, Maya and Jill received roasting in this thread for its entire existence, collecting maximum hate, Josy received this after Ep. 10, as a result the gates to Hell were opened and some of her fans burned..
The only post ep 10 hate Josy got was from people that can't handle her being the best girl. If not on her path don't like what she wore mm well that someone right but when cross's over in to hate only proves Josy is the Queen and speaks to a lack of faith in there own LI since the outrage is a clear sign they would fuck Josy in heartbeat even if on another path. ;)
 
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Only thing I disliked about Josy in episode 10 was Tommy finding out was kind of huge letdown to me. Sure it was funny but beyond that was not worth the hype and wait for that scene.
 

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Okay now that I started blathering about B-plots, help me make sure I’ve got the plot threads all straight. Which all have to be hidden under a spoiler blur, I suppose. Oh well.

First, the plots which aren’t LI-dependent, and even though the LIs are involved, the MC doesn’t have to be in a relationship with them to see them in the storyline. Generally they center on an individual.
  1. The MC joins the DIKs, and quickly takes a leadership role in the fraternity.
    DIK antagonists:
    • 1a. Dawe and the AAAs, who compete for the HOTs; they destroy the DIK mansion, and hope to win their upcoming competition.
    • 1b. Someone who’s hacked the DIK laptop, planting a nude of Cathy (and possibly leaking a certain fucktape).
    • 1c. Someone who’s put a spy camera in Derek’s room, who’s also blackmailing Chad.
    • 1d. Someone who’s spreading the DIKs’ embarrassing Hell Week photos around campus.
    • 1e. Tommy, the DIKs vice president who does whatever the fuck he wants.
    • 1f. Vinny, the ex-DIK turned drug dealer.
    [*][*]Josy—first as a coworker the MC’s crushing on, then as Maya’s secret girlfriend and new HOT.
    [*]Derek—both as maggot brother, try-hard, and growing friend.
    [*]Maya—who needs to escape the “student loan” impressed on her by her homophobic dad.
    [*]Sage—who uses the MC to spy on her cheating boyfriend, but befriends him; and her issues with leading the HOTs.
    [*]Chad—secretly fucking Troy; suspects the MC of blackmailing him and beats him, thus losing his presidency.
    [*]Quinn—who’s running a drugs and prostitution ring out of the HOT house.
    [*]Stephen—de facto B&R provost, shitty husband and father, secretly funding Quinn till he has a change of heart.
    [*]Arieth—the retarded girl on a quest to fuck every last frat boy (except the nerds), and her resulting pregnancy.
    [*]Jill—gets involved with the MC after Chad beats him; her concert and crippling stage fright; how Tybalt tries and fails to woo her, then annoy her.
    [*]Isabella—on the pretext of “just looking out for Jill,” befriends the MC and mentors him somewhat; her mysterious missing husband; plus someone in her English class is cheating.
    [*]Jade—the Gender Studies teacher who wants to fuck the MC and cuck Stephen.
    [*]Lily—the student/stripper who starts buying from Quinn, provoking Vinny.
    [*]Lynette—the MC’s mother’s last diary surfaces, and he learns how his parents met and fucked him into existence.
    [*]Zoey—the MC’s high school fuckbuddy rejoins his life, and realizes she loves him.
    [*]Heather—Tommy’s constantly cuckolded girlfriend who’s had enough.
    [*]Dwyane—the gym trainer who shows the MC how to be a better kickboxer.
Now the LI-dependent plotlines, which get added to the existing ones:
  1. Jill—falling in love, getting her V-card punched, her difficult parents, her dead sister.
    [*]Bella—hiding the relationship, dealing with the age/maturity gap.
    [*]Josy—indulging Josy’s crush on the MC, finding herself; the fallout once her throuple with the MC and Maya is exposed.
    [*]Maya—learning she loves dick, and loves public sex; and the aforementioned fallout.
    [*]Sage—dealing with her anger… and kinks.
    [*]Quinn—dealing with her intimacy issues, and the MC’s growing knowledge of her criminal activities.
    [*]Jade—hiding the affair. (Unless you told the DIKs about it. Then you’re fucked.)
    [*]Cathy. (Mainly fucking.)
    [*]Nora. (Hitting it off—and fucking.)
    [*]Riona—dealing with her immaturity.
    [*]Envy/Nicole—will it become serious, or just more wild stripper sex?
    [*]Lily—will it become serious, or are they only “rolling”?
Feel free to point out any I forgot, but do make sure it doesn’t easily fold into one of the above plotlines. Troy, for example, is part of Chad’s plotline; at least until the sparring turns into an actual friendship, if that ever happens.

And that’s a lot of plotlines to juggle. Most other AVNs just have one or two main plots, plus another for each LI.
Sage: dealing with her graduation, and her fears of the future, her job, the next HOT president
Bianca: her cheating BF, and how MC might get to her and how it tests Jill's relationship with both :D
MC: his family on Lynette's side, and how it relates to Jill's parents or mansion.

"rolling" is pretty much a serious relationship without wanting to call it serious. some people just call it "open relationship". debate. you have 4 hours :p
 
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Only thing I disliked about Josy in episode 10 was Tommy finding out was kind of huge letdown to me. Sure it was funny but beyond that was not worth the hype and wait for that scene.
Josy did say to Tommy she wants to be with MC
 

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Only thing I disliked about Josy in episode 10 was Tommy finding out was kind of huge letdown to me. Sure it was funny but beyond that was not worth the hype and wait for that scene.
I agree, but the alternate scene if you picked the solo path and spent the night with the 3 girls in your bed, is when Tommy refuses to believe nothing happened. That shit was funny AF!! :ROFLMAO:
 

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Josy did say to Tommy she wants to be with MC
that was the only good thing about that scene for me otherwise I felt like it was a disappointment. Making it more of a comedy scene felt weird and out of place for me when it was suppose to be something a bit more serious.
 

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that was the only good thing about that scene for me otherwise I felt like it was a disappointment. Making it more of a comedy scene felt weird and out of place for me when it was suppose to be something a bit more serious.
The only disappointing part to me was not being able to kiss the girls or touch their ass's in font of Tommy
 
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i'm not missing anything. there is literally no point. you're just making stuff up in your mind and try to look for out of context quotes for confirmation bias

you speak as if you're the only one that played the game...

the only we know is that MC saw the cluck, they both follow each other and Zoey left one or two likes but MC doesn't post anything, especially because he is depressed and heartbroken. he stops using rooster. you can only speculate that he stops using it after discovering that specific cluck. and he reactivates his account to follow his college friends. and there is not a single profile picture that looks like a wolf... see how that works ? I can make stuff up too just to destroy your arguments, and mine at least make sense.
you only have the facts, there is no proven link between them, you can only speculate from them, and you do it wrong. there is no logic to your wolf theory at all.

from the Sage scene, it's easy to understand that he got angry when he was bullied and retaliated. that's the only time, it is CONFIRMED as fact. we never get MC's reaction to the cluck, not in the EP3 flashback, not in EP9 park reunion, not in the interlude... you're just making it up. you're projecting yourself, and you want MC to be angry, probably. i don't really care.

you know that Vinny calling MC a dog is just an insult and Jacob saying lucky dog is just a saying ? why are you trying to read any more into that when they don't mean anything at all ? they don't prove your point at all. it's just you making stuff up again.

you say a profile pic is quickly changed... but why would he need to change his profile pic when there is the ACTUAL ACCOUNT NAME THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED next to every comment ???
let me even go a step above that with even more logic : if it was actually MC that said that to Zoey, it would have been massively damaging to her, it would have been the only comment displayed, in the middle of the screen... and Zoey's reaction would have been massively different. just that single point shows how little you understand about the characters and their relationship.

also from the park reunion scene, you know that MC NEVER reacted or commented on the cluck or her feed because you can obviously see that Zoey discovers right there that MC saw it. it's in your own quotes... like dude...

yeah, that text from MC is a joke. it's a fact. you can try to interpret it in anyway you want in your head, it doesn't change the fact. lighten the mood, tease her, distracting himself from his current predicament, you can speculate anything. it doesn't change the fact that it's still just a small joke to show Zoey had no idea what MC was going through.

again, you're just making stuff up. Zoey sees the MC with his girl, she remembers her sweet time with him. bam, her true feelings hit her head on, she runs away as the immature girl she is. you don't know what it means for her spot in the LI list, only DPC knows. stick to the facts.

you don't know where it is. the only location that is mentioned is the tree house. you can speculate it is Zoey's room that DPC didn't have time to model like he did in interlude, but you don't know. you can only see wood planks as walls and a window, and a bed. it can be her room, sure, but it can also be the tree house. they spend tons of time there before the kiss, and can continue spending time after the kiss for the same privacy they got before. you also don't know if their first time is what is displayed there in that scene. and if we listen to you and it is "the next time" and it's definitely not their first time by your own logic, you are just destroying your own arguments, yourself

"MC was definitely inexperienced when he first had sex with Zoey" DUH captain obvious... she is his first. why did you feel the need to even say that ? did you think it would help your point in any capacity ?
"I don't mean making out, I mean having sex". same goes for this... she is his first for both. why do you feel the need to even write that at all ? it's literally written in the flashback.

DPC rules are only to avoid Patreon ban hammer... nothing else. but hey, let's use that logic, since you want to use it to prove anything. then it means any underage person cannot be pictured or even thought to be having anything even remotely connected to sex. so using YOUR logic, there is absolutely NO chance that he would masturbate, AND there is absolutely NO chance that we would watch porn, and NO chance that he would try to educate himself in anything related to sex. MC is a sweet, wholesome boy that would only try to improve his sex skills AFTER he is exposed to it by Zoey during their first time.

and NO. the sex scene Zoey remembers in EP10 is not their first time. you don't know what it is. it is not specified. it's only you making stuff up again and again. it's just a moment when the hammock broke, and it became a strong memory linked to her feelings, that's the only thing you can say.

dude, everybody knows the sex scene in interlude is after what is written in the notebook... it happens just shortly before she leaves.
it's like you think everybody else is stupid and you're the only one that can read

the event in the notebook is just that and event. it is completely disconnected to any of the flashback in EP3 and EP10. there is absolutely no link, no proof, nothing factual that links them. you're, again, only making it up. your wishful thinking, and you think that is "proof"
the only link that you can actually factually make is in the interlude, you can only say that the event happened before the interlude. you can't say for sure that it is the previous time they had sex.
stop trying to make links where there is none.
Do you hate eyes in your head? She misses everything.
How can the bed fit into the small tree house? Can you inflate the tree house?
Why did Zoey change her red panties and put on black panties? It's probably a secret sign from Zoey so that her menstruation is over in an instant and they can now fuck her.
If you have your way, Zoey will write something in her notebook that she wants to do even though she's already done it.

If you see names here of the people who respond to the Cluck, something is wrong. And people think I'm on some kind of drugs. Maybe I don't see the names because I'm on drugs. I'm kind of confused now.o_O:ROFLMAO:
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