felicemastronzo

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I’ll add, it’s only stupid not following your dreams, even if they lead you away from the important people in your life. It’s clear Zoe’s dream was stronger than her attraction to the MC, but it’s wrong to hold her to a standard of being loyal to him no matter what, cause that would make for a fake relationship where she tries to make him happy all the time and leads only to resentment further down the road.
It’s a shame Zoe didn’t fulfill her dream and now has little to show up for, but that doesn’t invalidate that she tried or the experience she gained.
She’s still the same person the MC loved and it doesn’t matter whether he loves her anymore or not. All that matters is that he still cares about her. Whether it leads to friendship or romance is gonna be up to us.
Does it seem to you that surfing is Zoey's dream?
after a few lessons she quits completely, and without any particular difficulty or hardship to deal with.
she tries surfing and finds that she does not like it. this is not a dream but a whim.
 

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I have nothing against Magnar, it’s nothing personal when I say I’d cuck him :BootyTime:
Indeed, the Helena and John Boy’s part is more cohesive and it would be more fun to explore. Although I don’t really care about her, don’t find her physically attractive enough :KEK: she has a cool personality though.

The most likely culprit based on what we have right now is him, just saying. Ain’t nothing wrong about making the most likely assumption. You don’t have to be that technically inclined to plant cameras either. Nick seems fishy as a whole, it’s the way he interacts with us too, like he’s holding back or hiding something. Maybe it’s just that he’s a bit awkward, but I dunno, I’m considering the big picture.
I can't disagree, as I said it's all speculations. But Nick is way too obvious, and if we've learned anything from DPC and his first VN, he's going to throw us a curve ball about pretty much anything he can. And I feel Nick is just a red herring, and I'm convinced that's what he wants us to think. Because assuming it's nick, just feels like a "low hanging fruit" sort of setup.
 

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Does it seem to you that surfing is Zoey's dream?
after a few lessons she quits completely, and without any particular difficulty or hardship to deal with.
she tries surfing and finds that she does not like it. this is not a dream but a whim.
It was still her dream although she pursued it recklessly and with little forethought.
You can call it a dream or a whim or hot sauce, it’s all the same, it’s what she wanted to do with her life. Whether she failed is irrelevant to our discussion.
 

felicemastronzo

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It was still her dream although she pursued it recklessly and with little forethought.
You can call it a dream or a whim or hot sauce, it’s all the same, it’s what she wanted to do with her life. Whether she failed is irrelevant to our discussion.
If we take the words away from their meaning, of course.

The point is not that she failed, but that she put no effort into it, no effort at all. She wanted to surf, surfing is not easy, then she doesn't want to surf anymore. Which doesn't justify that 'that's what she wanted to do with her life' . What she wanted was a holiday, paid for by her grandmother.
 

mostwanted8

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If we take the words away from their meaning, of course.

The point is not that she failed, but that she put no effort into it, no effort at all. She wanted to surf, surfing is not easy, then she doesn't want to surf anymore. Which doesn't justify that 'that's what she wanted to do with her life' . What she wanted was a holiday, paid for by her grandmother.
She’s young and dumb as they say and didn’t know any better. Sometimes you learn life’s lessons the hard way.
We all can agree on that and move on, otherwise we’ll beat ourselves into a corner.
I don't think I like this hating Zoey meta that much, can't we go back to Maya and Josy are cheating liars, Jill has a goblin smile and Quinn is a proustite rhetoric? :cautious::Kappa:
I definitely agree that Quinn, even though she’s my girl is a pimp and a prostitute :BootyTime:
 
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I have nothing against Magnar, it’s nothing personal when I say I’d cuck him :BootyTime:
Indeed, the Helena and John Boy’s part is more cohesive and it would be more fun to explore. Although I don’t really care about her, don’t find her physically attractive enough :KEK: she has a cool personality though.
1. Cool, easy-going personality
2. As for me, she's hot.
It's funny that Elena is just a base model for Genesis 8, with a different skin texture. Simple in creation, but still looking good.
 

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mostwanted8 Said:
I definitely agree that Quinn, even though she’s my girl is a pimp and a prostitute :BootyTime:
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Pimp for sure but is Quinn really a prostitute, besides the MC, do we know of anyone else she's slept with since the MC turned up to the college, hmmm
 

mostwanted8

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1. Cool, easy-ging personality
2. As for me, she's hot.
It's funny that Elena is just a base model for Genesis 8, with a different skin texture. Simple in creation, but still looking good.
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She has no curves though, no ass, no hips, no tits. Nothing at all :eek::eek::eek:
I’m into voluptuous women if you didn’t guess :BootyTime:

DarkMage73
Right but she’s a prostitute for the MC. He paid her, he’s a customer :BootyTime::BootyTime:
Correct me if he didn’t pay her, it’s been some time.
 
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Okay now that I started blathering about B-plots, help me make sure I’ve got the plot threads all straight. Which all have to be hidden under a spoiler blur, I suppose. Oh well.

First, the plots which aren’t LI-dependent, and even though the LIs are involved, the MC doesn’t have to be in a relationship with them to see them in the storyline. Generally they center on an individual.
  • 1. The MC joins the DIKs, and quickly takes a leadership role in the fraternity.
  • DIK antagonists:
    • 2. Dawe and the AAAs, who compete for the HOTs; they destroy the DIK mansion, and hope to win their upcoming competition.
    • 3. Someone who’s hacked the DIK laptop, planting a nude of Cathy (and possibly leaking a certain fucktape).
    • 4. Someone who’s put a spy camera in Derek’s room, who’s also blackmailing Chad.
    • 5. Someone who’s spreading the DIKs’ embarrassing Hell Week photos around campus.
    • 6. Tommy, the DIKs vice president who does whatever the fuck he wants.
    • 7. Vinny, the ex-DIK turned drug dealer.
    • 8. Quinn, who’s running a drugs and prostitution ring out of the HOT house. (Who could become a friend, if you fuck her instead of fucking with her.)
    • 9. Stephen, de facto B&R provost, shitty husband and father, secretly funding Quinn till he has a change of heart.
    • 10. Tybalt, ANO president and future Trump Administration adviser, who lusts for Jill.
    • 11. Chad, AAA president secretly fucking Troy; suspects the MC of blackmailing him and beats him, thus losing his presidency.
  • New friends:
    • 12. Josy—first as a coworker the MC’s crushing on, then as Maya’s secret girlfriend and new HOT.
    • 13. Derek, maggot brother, try-hard, and growing friend.
    • 14. Maya, who needs to escape the “student loan” impressed on her by her homophobic dad.
    • 15. Sage, who uses the MC to spy on her cheating boyfriend, but befriends him; and her issues with leading the HOTs.
    • 16. Arieth, the retarded girl on a quest to fuck every last frat boy (except the nerds), and her resulting pregnancy.
    • 17. Jill, naive rich girl who gets involved with the MC after Chad beats him; her concert and crippling stage fright; how Tybalt annoys her.
    • 18. Isabella, librarian, on the pretext of “just looking out for Jill,” befriends the MC and mentors him somewhat; her mysterious missing husband; plus someone in her English class is cheating.
    • 19. Cathy, horny but unfulfilled English teacher whose nude drives her to quit the school.
    • 20. Jade, Gender Studies teacher who wants to fuck the MC and cuck Stephen.
    • 21. Quinn’s whores in the HOTs—Riona, Camila, Sarah, Mel, and their issues.
    • 22. The Pink Rose strippers and their deals.
    • 23. Lily, student/stripper who starts buying from Quinn, provoking Vinny.
    • 24. Lynette—the MC’s mother’s last diary surfaces, and he learns how his parents met and fucked him into existence.
    • 25. Zoey, the MC’s high school fuckbuddy—rejoins his life, and realizes she loves him.
    • 26. Heather, Tommy’s constantly cuckolded girlfriend who’s had enough.
    • 27. Nora and the Chemistry class.
    • 28. Dwyane, the gym trainer who shows the MC how to be a better kickboxer.
Now the LI-dependent plotlines, which get added to the existing ones:
  • 8+. Quinn—dealing with her intimacy issues, and the MC’s growing knowledge of her criminal activities.
  • 12+. Josy—indulging Josy’s crush on the MC, finding herself; the fallout once her throuple with the MC and Maya is exposed.
  • 14+. Maya—learning she loves dick, and loves public sex; and the aforementioned fallout.
  • 15+. Sage—dealing with her anger… and kinks.
  • 17+. Jill—falling in love, getting her V-card punched, her difficult parents, her dead sister.
  • 18+. Bella—hiding the relationship, dealing with the age/maturity gap.
  • 19+. Cathy. (Mainly fucking.)
  • 20+. Jade—hiding the affair. (Unless you told the DIKs about it. Then you’re fucked.)
  • 21+. Riona—dealing with her immaturity.
  • 22+. Envy/Nicole—will it become serious, or just more wild stripper sex?
  • 22+. Madame Rose—will this ever come to anything, or is it just a meaningless financial drain?
  • 23+. Lily—will it become serious, or are they only “rolling”?
  • 27+. Nora. (Hitting it off—and fucking.)
Feel free to point out any I forgot, but do make sure it doesn’t easily fold into one of the above plotlines. Troy, for example, is part of Chad’s plotline; at least until the sparring turns into an actual friendship, if that ever happens.

And that’s a lot of plotlines to juggle. Most other AVNs just have one or two main plots, plus another for each LI.
 
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