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i cant find this bastard looking for him for almost 20 minutes now
I've had that a couple of times with the last one in that free roam/second part of it - "talk to Sage". Sage is there, but I can't click on her. Even though I've hit the required number of "tidy the mansion" points, I go and clear another bit of rubbish, and then she's available to be clicked. Could be the same here if he's not showing up, but I think Derek just stays in the movie room for the entire time you're going around checking the rest of the mansion for cameras. Lazy fucker :ROFLMAO:
 
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Never thought about that because there are memorable scenes in ep. 6 (Sarah and Quinn), but you're right... In fact, I think the whole second season is a bunch of random scenes with no necessary connection (i.e., a lack of plot), and the only good thing about it is we're having the payoff (i.e., sex) to what we've built in Season 1 (well scripted but lacked sex). The whole purpose of season 2 seemed to be us having random date/sex scenes so, in the end, we have (i.e., are forced) to choose a girlfriend. If this game were less pretentious (i.e., a mere dating sim), it would have ended at this point -- you meet cute, build relationships, have dates, choose a girlfriend, and be happily ever after --, but, since Mr. DPC is doing "art", I'm wondering what'll happen from here...
the second season has 2 problems. the first is that it lacks a context, an overarching narrative line that wraps it up is that holds it together, the first season had even 2, the hell's week and the relationship with/among Maya and Josy.

grafted onto this problem is the second: the LIs didn't have this great arc either. i.e. Jill had it and it was terrible, important things happened to Sage but in the end to "fill in" we had to invent that unintended and unprepared parenthesis of the "rebound guy," Maya and Josy, who as a relationship with MC were the most forward of all, were left pretty much on hiatus to allow the others to catch up. the only LI who really improved her position was Bella, even though she went through the season without solving any of her problems (and rethinking how theoretically they are overcome in a few lines of dialogue in the last chapter makes this even more ridiculous)

the first season is a game I would recommend to everyone, the merits of the second season are only quantitative
 

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the second season has 2 problems. the first is that it lacks a context, an overarching narrative line that wraps it up is that holds it together, the first season had even 2, the hell's week and the relationship with/among Maya and Josy.

grafted onto this problem is the second: the LIs didn't have this great arc either. i.e. Jill had it and it was terrible, important things happened to Sage but in the end to "fill in" we had to invent that unintended and unprepared parenthesis of the "rebound guy," Maya and Josy, who as a relationship with MC were the most forward of all, were left pretty much on hiatus to allow the others to catch up. the only LI who really improved her position was Bella, even though she went through the season without solving any of her problems (and rethinking how theoretically they are overcome in a few lines of dialogue in the last chapter makes this even more ridiculous)

the first season is a game I would recommend to everyone, the merits of the second season are only quantitative
Season 1 feels kind of like a cheap, campy show that's fun but has a self-contained story: you become a DIK. The relationships are all still forming of course, but other than Jill you could've ended it with Episode 4 for all of them. J&M accept you, you're fuck buddies with Sage, and Bella went from crying during a makeout session to jerking you off. A bright future of sex and debauchery is ahead of you.

Season 2 feels more "dramatic". More character storylines, better production values, double the length, it's like a show that went from the CW to HBO. But like you said, there's no longer a narrative thrust beyond committing to someone at the last minute. Season 3 is more of the same, but I'd call it even more meandering because of the time skips. I feel like there's no real progression with each girl in-between the scenes we are witness to, Episode 10 might as well be like two weeks max. The loan storyline keeps coming up with more reasons to drag it out, the whole thing with Vinny is boring, the mystery surrounding the cameras, the Cathy Cluck and the DIK photos, I don't really care and it will likely not have a satisfying answer. I can't see the actual story ending on a high note.

All that being said, I love the characters, I like hanging out in this world, and other than the story's end I feel like the epilogues will be more competent, only because there's so many variations that some are bound to be good. I'll be sad when the game is over, because despite the numerous flaws it is hands down the highest quality game I've played on this site, and probably my favorite.

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I'll be doubly sad when the game ends too, because this thread will no longer have anything new to talk about and devolve into even more degeneracy.
 

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Season 1 feels kind of like a cheap, campy show that's fun but has a self-contained story: you become a DIK. The relationships are all still forming of course, but other than Jill you could've ended it with Episode 4 for all of them. J&M accept you, you're fuck buddies with Sage, and Bella went from crying during a makeout session to jerking you off. A bright future of sex and debauchery is ahead of you.

Season 2 feels more "dramatic". More character storylines, better production values, double the length, it's like a show that went from the CW to HBO. But like you said, there's no longer a narrative thrust beyond committing to someone at the last minute. Season 3 is more of the same, but I'd call it even more meandering because of the time skips. I feel like there's no real progression with each girl in-between the scenes we are witness to, Episode 10 might as well be like two weeks max. The loan storyline keeps coming up with more reasons to drag it out, the whole thing with Vinny is boring, the mystery surrounding the cameras, the Cathy Cluck and the DIK photos, I don't really care and it will likely not have a satisfying answer. I can't see the actual story ending on a high note.

All that being said, I love the characters, I like hanging out in this world, and other than the story's end I feel like the epilogues will be more competent, only because there's so many variations that some are bound to be good. I'll be sad when the game is over, because despite the numerous flaws it is hands down the highest quality game I've played on this site, and probably my favorite.

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I'll be doubly sad when the game ends too, because this thread will no longer have anything new to talk about and devolve into even more degeneracy.
The qualitative improvement is almost exclusively technical, because aesthetically it seems to me that many characters have deteriorated.

But the problem is that the second season already feels like season 10, when real ideas are scarce but moving forward.

Thinking about the ending seems quite premature to me, and I don't know how much effect the branching out of the story will have on the planned endings. So far in the topical monents everything has been pretty even all the time.
 

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Who looks worse? No one immediately springs to mind to me.
Maya has gotten markedly worse, Josy and Jill less so, but still not improved,, Sage between constantly sweaty skin, crazy eyes, and post punk makeup I would say deteriorated as well only it is more between the end of the second season and this third.

Only Bella in my opinion can be considered improved
 

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The qualitative improvement is almost exclusively technical, because aesthetically it seems to me that many characters have deteriorated.

But the problem is that the second season already feels like season 10, when real ideas are scarce but moving forward.

Thinking about the ending seems quite premature to me, and I don't know how much effect the branching out of the story will have on the planned endings. So far in the topical monents everything has been pretty even all the time.
It's always seemed odd to me that of the five LI's I've never really found them attractive. The looks are too 'try hard' and exaggerated. Then conversely several of the side girls, like Lily, Elena, Mona and Camila are much more attractive, if only because they look more realistic. The only improvement that I've liked is that he stopped putting that repellent black lipstick on Rio.
 

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Maya has gotten markedly worse, Josy and Jill less so, but still not improved,, Sage between constantly sweaty skin, crazy eyes, and post punk makeup I would say deteriorated as well only it is more between the end of the second season and this third.

Only Bella in my opinion can be considered improved
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Her first appearance vs a scene in Episode 10, also in a brightly lit hallway. I'm not really seeing any sort of downgrade, or significant change. If we're talking about her body and not her face, I wouldn't say there's been any change either: it's still pretty poor. Bad skin, sandpaper ass, fake looking tits.

As for the others, Josy still has chrome teeth every single episode, and suffers from a mild case of Jill face. Jill is self-explanatory, but I wouldn't say she's gotten worse. Sage does look way too shiny when sweaty, same as MC. And I agree about Bella, she's only gone up. With other characters, Riona looks much healthier. Cammy has drastically improved. I noticed Kylie looked like shit in early episodes, much better now. I want to say Derek has had a bit of a glow up too.
 

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Her first appearance vs a scene in Episode 10, also in a brightly lit hallway. I'm not really seeing any sort of downgrade, or significant change. If we're talking about her body and not her face, I wouldn't say there's been any change either: it's still pretty poor. Bad skin, sandpaper ass, fake looking tits.

As for the others, Josy still has chrome teeth every single episode, and suffers from a mild case of Jill face. Jill is self-explanatory, but I wouldn't say she's gotten worse. Sage does look way too shiny when sweaty, same as MC. And I agree about Bella, she's only gone up. With other characters, Riona looks much healthier. Cammy has drastically improved. I noticed Kylie looked like shit in early episodes, much better now. I want to say Derek has had a bit of a glow up too.
Well look at the scarecrow body attached to that enormous head in the third image.
 

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Her first appearance vs a scene in Episode 10, also in a brightly lit hallway. I'm not really seeing any sort of downgrade, or significant change. If we're talking about her body and not her face, I wouldn't say there's been any change either: it's still pretty poor. Bad skin, sandpaper ass, fake looking tits.

As for the others, Josy still has chrome teeth every single episode, and suffers from a mild case of Jill face. Jill is self-explanatory, but I wouldn't say she's gotten worse. Sage does look way too shiny when sweaty, same as MC. And I agree about Bella, she's only gone up. With other characters, Riona looks much healthier. Cammy has drastically improved. I noticed Kylie looked like shit in early episodes, much better now. I want to say Derek has had a bit of a glow up too.
In the first season there are some beautiful renderings of Maya, even close ones, like the picnic interrupted by Derek, which for me represents the pinnacle of her. Now her skin is terrible pretty much all the time, sometimes she looks like an old woman covering her wrinkles with heavy makeup, and other times she just looks like she has a medical problem. Added to that, in the third season, is the crazy eyes.

I did not consider SG. On Riona I agree, on Camilla less so, to me the current version looks completely unnatural, skin so even and smooth that she looks like a plastic doll
 

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Well look at the scarecrow body attached to that enormous head in the third image.
Hmmm. It actually does look bigger. It could be the angle, but idk.

In the first season there are some beautiful renderings of Maya, even close ones, like the picnic interrupted by Derek, which for me represents the pinnacle of her. Now her skin is terrible pretty much all the time, sometimes she looks like an old woman covering her wrinkles with heavy makeup, and other times she just looks like she has a medical problem. Added to that, in the third season, is the crazy eyes.

I did not consider SG. On Riona I agree, on Camilla less so, to me the current version looks completely unnatural, skin so even and smooth that she looks like a plastic doll
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This is probably the worst I've ever seen Maya. Obviously this is supposed to be her without any makeup, but she looks like she's fucking dying.

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It does feel like DPC went a little overboard on redesigning Cammy, but I wouldn't go as far to say she looks completely unnatural.
 
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Hmmm. It actually does look bigger. It could be the angle, but idk.


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This is probably the worst I've ever seen Maya. Obviously this is supposed to be her without any makeup, but she looks like she's fucking dying.

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It does feel like DPC went a little overboard on redesigning Cammy, but I wouldn't go as far to say she looks completely unnatural.
This is why I've never bought the BS from DPC Fanboi's. If you look back through this thread, or read the reviews, you'll see endless praise for DPC's renders. Or endless babble about how hard DPC works, or perfectionist DPC. And it's all BS. The game is littered with bad renders. The designs of most characters is mid as fuck. If DPC was the perfectionist that his fan's claim he would never drop an update with some of the shit that's in this game.
 

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It's always seemed odd to me that of the five LI's I've never really found them attractive. The looks are too 'try hard' and exaggerated. Then conversely several of the side girls, like Lily, Elena, Mona and Camila are much more attractive, if only because they look more realistic. The only improvement that I've liked is that he stopped putting that repellent black lipstick on Rio.
Although I wouldn't go quite that far, I have to agree. I don't think any of the LIs are absolute knockouts (although they almost all have their top moments). The best-looking girls are all SGs or not even at that level. That one picture that keeps getting posted of the 5 LIs before they head out to Derek/Maya's home always looks like a bad ad for the game to me, but mostly that's Bella's fault!
 
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This is why I've never bought the BS from DPC Fanboi's. If you look back through this thread, or read the reviews, you'll see endless praise for DPC's renders. Or endless babble about how hard DPC works, or perfectionist DPC. And it's all BS. The game is littered with bad renders. The designs of most characters is mid as fuck. If DPC was the perfectionist that his fan's claim he would never drop an update with some of the shit that's in this game.
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B-but the bottle! :Kappa:

I don't know what to make of DPC. He wants full control of Being a DIK, which I can understand even beyond not wanting to share the money. He's gotten a lot fancier with camera movements, more cinematic shots and editing, most people don't like the barrage of minigames but it's impressive he's doing it all himself. Plus all the coding, writing, creating variations of scenes based on choice whether big or small, music selection and now composition too. He's essentially a jack of all trades, master of none.

But he refuses to budge in certain areas. He won't give Maya the visual update she so desperately needs, fix the chrome teeth, multiple characters have Jill face, he is going crazy with the animations but total shit like Zoey running through the woods is apparently good enough to be in the final product. Outside of one single scene that the majority of players will not ever see, Madame Rose is useless and wastes precious dev time, I don't care how quickly he finishes her scenes. This new "Josy is a basic bitch" plotline, I feel, is a bad attempt to give her something outside of Maya or MC. She's an extremely social girl who has no trouble making new friends, but not having a hobby is eating away at her? She has to fucking Google "hobbies for young girls" because she really has no idea? Maybe if we learn that she's really insecure not just about her height and speaking up when she has a problem, but she also has anxiety or an inferiority complex or something, then perhaps it could work but right now I don't buy it.

I guess I would say he has an artistic temperament, and I know some people would laugh at the idea of BADIK being art or DPC being called an artist, but both are true in the technical sense. I'm not saying he's the da Vinci of AVNs and this is the Mona Lisa (who and what even would be?), but he is creating something that can be beautiful at times, invokes strong emotions, has an above-average quality at minimum, and characters that ocassionally feel real. He created this small world that thousands of people enjoy, and it's not an exaggeration to say that he does work hard. His priorities are just unbalanced.
 

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B-but the bottle! :Kappa:

I don't know what to make of DPC. He wants full control of Being a DIK, which I can understand even beyond not wanting to share the money. He's gotten a lot fancier with camera movements, more cinematic shots and editing, most people don't like the barrage of minigames but it's impressive he's doing it all himself. Plus all the coding, writing, creating variations of scenes based on choice whether big or small, music selection and now composition too. He's essentially a jack of all trades, master of none.

But he refuses to budge in certain areas. He won't give Maya the visual update she so desperately needs, fix the chrome teeth, multiple characters have Jill face, he is going crazy with the animations but total shit like Zoey running through the woods is apparently good enough to be in the final product. Outside of one single scene that the majority of players will not ever see, Madame Rose is useless and wastes precious dev time, I don't care how quickly he finishes her scenes. This new "Josy is a basic bitch" plotline, I feel, is a bad attempt to give her something outside of Maya or MC. She's an extremely social girl who has no trouble making new friends, but not having a hobby is eating away at her? She has to fucking Google "hobbies for young girls" because she really has no idea? Maybe if we learn that she's really insecure not just about her height and speaking up when she has a problem, but she also has anxiety or an inferiority complex or something, then perhaps it could work but right now I don't buy it.

I guess I would say he has an artistic temperament, and I know some people would laugh at the idea of BADIK being art or DPC being called an artist, but both are true in the technical sense. I'm not saying he's the da Vinci of AVNs and this is the Mona Lisa (who and what even would be?), but he is creating something that can be beautiful at times, invokes strong emotions, has an above-average quality at minimum, and characters that ocassionally feel real. He created this small world that thousands of people enjoy, and it's not an exaggeration to say that he does work hard. His priorities are just unbalanced.
Just because the gentleman says he works alone doesn't necessarily mean you have to believe him.

Even if the updates take 1 year to come out, ask yourself the question:
+ 5k rendered + the animations + the code + the mini games + think about the story + the dialogue + freeroam + the rewards compared to the patreon rank + the steam version, without forgetting he also has a real life and things to do, sleep, wash, eat...

Please it's certain that he doesn't work alone, but by saying that he works alone the fanboi is even the non fanboi forgive him for the delays, the shitty excuses (reflection on a bottle, 60fps, etc...) or else he works 7 days a week 18 hours a day without ever taking a vacation, I'm sure there are things that I forget that he has to manage.
 
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