Darkwen

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Honestly I thought of would of hated it to. Especially since I typically don't like tattoo's on the front of their body all that much especially big ones like her chest tattoo. But I felt like it actually matches and goes with her other tattoo's and goes with her general look or design. I think she would look a bit off without it. Now the tattoo by it's self I agree would be awful but with the other ones it works for me.
I think Zoey look better without the tats but she still looks good, it would be fucking hot if Josy got one:love::love::love::love::devilish::devilish:
Alady Alady:love::love::love::love::love:
 
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atrebor68

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Yeah, that would be pretty awful. I've seen one on here previously that has AI renders, and let's just say you can tell. I don't care if the tech improves, I just don't want that crap.
I quote, I will always choose a story written by a human artist, following his/her ideas.
But what if the AI will understand your preferences and change a little the plot following your kinks ?
 

Dessolos

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As to where MC and Zoey where standing before she left... sorry but as much as everyone is free to take their own decisions (i.e. leaving) if you grow up as friends for years, then move to also have sex and cuddles more than once... you don't need the other person to tell you they love you, they weren't 12.
That's true at the very least you know know they care alot for you beyond sex if you are always fucking and cuddling not so sure about love in a romantic way tho. How I saw it was more of FWB than romantic for Zoey and she loved the MC like you love a best friend. I wasn't until she realized what she lost while it turned into a romantic love for the MC. But of course like most MC"s in these games they never tell the girl how they feel and it causes problems lol.

Haha see you like Bella alot I can't play her path without forcing myself it's too damn awkward for me to enjoy.
 
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That's true at the very least you know know they care alot for you beyond sex if you are always fucking and cuddling not so sure about love in a romantic way tho. How I saw it was more of FWB than romantic for Zoey and she loved the MC like you love a best friend. I wasn't until she realized what she lost while it turned into a romantic love for the MC. But of course like most MC"s in these games they never tell the girl how they feel and it causes problems lol.

Haha see you like Bella alot I can't play her path without forcing myself it's too damn awkward for me to enjoy.
I try as much as possible to identify with the MCs of these games makes them more enjoyable, sometimes is possible, others not.

With this VN despite the HUGE age gap between me and him it worked and what strikes me as underlying element is how much he misses his mother, Bella just felt right despite all the sex and akwawardness of the situation I hope that side of their interaction doesn't go away.
 

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I quote, I will always choose a story written by a human artist, following his/her ideas.
But what if the AI will understand your preferences and change a little the plot following your kinks ?
Nah, it's a slippery slope. I will be open and admit that I am vehemently against AI in the creative arts. I have a lot of friends who have been shat on by AI or have people trying to use AI to shit on them if they haven't had it done already. Trying to be objective after giving that caveat though, you can't have a machine create a story with a soul. Machine learning can only do pull from what it's been fed, and it doesn't know the "why" of it all. It doesn't know the intricacies of storytelling, and the impact a good story can have on different people. What it knows, in comparison, can be boiled down to a mathematical equation.
 

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Nah, it's a slippery slope. I will be open and admit that I am vehemently against AI in the creative arts. I have a lot of friends who have been shat on by AI or have people trying to use AI to shit on them if they haven't had it done already. Trying to be objective after giving that caveat though, you can't have a machine create a story with a soul. Machine learning can only do pull from what it's been fed, and it doesn't know the "why" of it all. It doesn't know the intricacies of storytelling, and the impact a good story can have on different people. What it knows, in comparison, can be boiled down to a mathematical equation.
200% agree, depsite havin personally experienced a full department (200ish folks) being shut down by the "introduction of AI", I profoundly believe that no matter how advancd proper AI might become it will always lack that 'something'
 

Darkwen

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You haven't given a reason for "alady" that makes sense, until you do every time you use it you are calling Josy a bitch and I will call you out on it.
Blasphemy!!!!!!! May the Goddess have mercy on your soul
If my reason does not make sense to you it is because you don't want it to
you can't get any lower then this
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Chip has called Josy that evil word but I never would because I love her
 

Darkwen

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I prefer my interpretation and until he corrects it with something that makes more sense than my interpretation I'm going to keep calling him out on hating Josy and calling her a bitch. and hopefully he gets bored before me and finally stops the annoying nonsense
oh trust me that never happening :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: if anything it only get worse or better depending on your point of view :p:p:p
 

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not for me the Interlude was enough to sell me on her and I consider just as good of a friend as Sage is. Sure she made a mistake but who doesn't. It's not like her mistake was one that she ended up ghosting the MC for years was only for something like 6 months - a year so wasnt a big deal to me. I'm not about to let my MC ruin a good friendship over one mistake second chances and all. Besides she did have her reasons for leaving albeit it wasn't something serious. Besides technically they were never in a romantic relationship at that point so her leaving isnt as bad to me. All in all I consider her a better friend than Derek and equally as good of a friend as Sage.

Plus for me personally I think it's a bit too heartless or harsh to cut her out of the MC's life over that.
I just want to say that no one ghosts someone else for 6 months.... a much shorter period is enough for the other person to stop wanting to contact you, if one lasts that long it is dangerous and is a stalker.:oops::oops::oops:

and in fact not even Zoey ghost Mc that long, he simply leaves her alone and goes on with his life.


now in the last 2 chapters we have heard MC express how much he missed her and how important she was to him, who knows if in chapter 11 Zoey will feel like saying something :rolleyes:
 

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What do you mean, no time for combinations and permutations?
In most cases, all you have to do is change some lines of dialogue. Renders could stay the same.
It would be very lame and lazy approach on the dev side. Different renders for scenes even in very slightly different circumstances are strong advantage of BADIK. It's very important to reflect what's going on, characters reactions and emotions. Body language and facial expressions. When the only change is a text and dialogue lines, while renders remains the same it feels like characters don't give a fuck about what's going on. It's repulsive and quite implausible.

And in the case of Maya & Josie, just skip the content. Noone but the people that choose to ghost them would skip their content, I don't see the problem in giving us that option. It's not like we are ripping pages out a book so no one else can read them, y'all can still simp for those two and get all the goodies.
They're part of the core plot. Very significant one. Why you wish such an option which will make the plot useless and remove the most of scenes and sense from the game itself? Dev written characters and their story in a certain way from the very beginning and he had a plan on the whole plot from beginning as well. During dev cycle he only changed the details and added more permutations and options for players. But main idea barely changed and he follows it from beginning till the end. Any significant changes and altering the approach to development of the plot and characters at the current moment of time and episode # will ruin whole game and will make such hypothetical changes mostly ridiculous as well. Why do you trying to demand and even think of such things after about 5 years since first episode was released?

Hopefully I don't have to specifically mention that is only goes for LIs that are involved in scandalous behaviour towards the MC, girls like Sage and Jill don't need to have those considerations since, by all accounts, they aren't acting shady and hide a terrible secret that directly impacts our MC.
MC is a snowflake. At least at the time of J&M relationship reveal. It was discussed thousands times already here and there. Let's start it again?

MC is not saint either. He tried to date them both. And even if not, he clearly knew that Josy had a "boyfriend" and Maya just was lack of those extra couple of minutes to tell him the truth, because she was ready to confess. MC and J&M hadn't officially dated as well at the moment of reveal. So any "cheating" discussions is a pure bullshit. As well it's a bullshit because girl+girl is not a cheating on the man, especially when they was not officially dating.

Personally, I have a bone to pick with people that don't care to mention they have a long-distance relationship, let alone a gay one.
And I would like that to be reflected in the game, considering it won't take too much effort to allow the MC to ignore some LIs until they get the message.
It was an unpleasant coincidence. They never wanted to make it the way it turned out. And J&M are not gay. They are both bi. Josy from the beginning and Maya just thought that she is gay, because she didn't got right opportunity to meet and date guy back in school (bc of bulling, mother situation, etc).

Girls didn't do anything terrible or something that could make the MC sever ties with them forever. What we see in the game next is a plausible development of events, without excessive branching and removal of important plot elements to please a bunch of haters. If for some reason these girls don't attract the player as a love interest from the beginning or after a reveal point, or the player cannot digest that they date each other, they just remain friends and that's it.

Everything else - hatred, the desire to completely "remove" them from the screen, etc. are the wishes of individuals, and their minimum number, which can be peacefully ignored.

Take in mind that as dev you can't satisfy everybody and you have to stick to a certain golden mean and don't overdo anything to satisfy the major part of the players. That's the goal and that's why BADIK was and still one of the best games in genre.

In Intertwined the ability to get rid of the girls was implemented from the beginning. It's a part of writing. But finally, the more of them you "remove" the more boring game becomes later. Does it worth it? From completionists pov - yeah, just to check out once how the game world burns. But in a long term it's mostly useless. Because it's AVN...
 
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